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Fed up of stupid bullshit lies

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MagicMoonstone · 10/05/2016 16:55

OH and I have what people would see as an ideal relationship if they looked in from the outside.

On the inside though there is some really bizarre behaviour that I just don't get.

He keeps secrets.... always related to his kids. I really don't understand why he lies about silly little things that he really doesn't need to.

I can't think of loads of examples but a few spring to mind. They are all pretty petty little lies.

His kids were going on a school trip to paris.... I said over and over we needed to sort them some euros. It didn't get sorted and the morning he dropped them off I asked if he'd sorted it and he said no.... he'd just given them cash to change themselves. I was fine with this.

2 months later he was checking a bank statement and he asked what he'd spent money on at post office counters. It was large amount so we were puzzled. Then he realised and said "ohhhh I got the kids euros didn't i"...... why lie?

Then a while ago we had some problems with his daughter meeting up with strangers. I was concerned for her safety. We all sat down (with her mum and step dad) over a cuppa and explained why we were worried. She accepted it was foolish and she had been trying to please a friend.

So I have just sat in the car and found a handwritten note from DSD friend explaining how sorry she is for leading DSD astray and asking that she isn't punished for something that she had pushed her into. It was a lovely note.

He got into the car and I was holding it. Straight away he said "I told you about that"..... before I'd even had chance to ask about anything. I know he hadn't told me because I'd have remembered reading it. I'd have recalled a memory when I saw it. It was the first time I'd seen it. It would have been nice to know that the situation was sorted and we could draw a line on it.

He said he keeps things secret and lies because he had to with his ex because he couldn't tell her things. But I'm not like her. I'm nothing like her. I've never given him reason to lie so why do it.

What really fucks me off is this whole line of "I told you that" or "I showed you that" all the time when I know these things haven't been said. He relays whole conversations he that we've apparently had that I know we haven't had. I am now at a point where I can predict them coming.

Initially I was getting myself really upset because I thought I was forgetting whole conversations, and it was only a few weeks ago when I realised that I'm not actually forgetting anything.... he just tries to trick me with saying we've discussed stuff.

I guess the things he's doing aren't actually the things that are bothering me.... it's the whole thing of making out I'm losing my mind that's upsetting me.

OP posts:
Kr1stina · 11/05/2016 10:31

He's gas lighting you, it's a form of abuse

He tells you you need to quit things ? You mean like friends or a hobby ?

He manipulates you into feeling guilty because of what he " gives up for you " .

Why on earth are you with him?

It's making you ill . Your health is more important that furniture .

You need to leave and I think you know it .

Fragglewump · 11/05/2016 10:31

I'm not particularly strong but my relationship with him broke me and in my heart I knew that I would leave him at least 2 years before I did. But like you I didn't want to split up my family for 'little things'. I had bad PND and so struggled a lot. He was not much help and in the end once I started to recover I knew that my life would be miserable if I stayed with him. Looking back I wish I had left him sooner as the whole time the writing was on the wall I felt like I was dying inside. I suspect that you know that this is not how you want your life to be. It sounds like he doesn't feel the need to change i.e. when you spoke he blamed you. Whether you are ready or not to make those changes only you can decide. Op please be brave enough to choose the life you want. His behaviour is pathetic and crap but also clever because they are seemingly little things. For what it's worth I am now happier than ever which is incredible given the number he did on me!

Kr1stina · 11/05/2016 10:32

You are not a wimpy freak BTW, this is what happens when you live with someone who abuses you .

It fucks with your mind and your ability to make good choices .

It's not your fault

magoria · 11/05/2016 11:19

You are not weak.

You know this is wrong. His actions are making you ill. That is how. Much you realise this is not right.

You have taken the first steps to correcting this by realising it is a massive problem.

LadyReuleaux · 11/05/2016 12:12

Magic, yes my DP's lies were about tiny things, mainly when he was on the defensive about something. He's lazy and messy (hey, bonus) so I would mention that he still hadn't hoovered look he promised to or some such, and he'd just lie about it! Really rubbish, obvious lies. He would even say I had done the thing he had done sometimes which drove me insane. If he didn't want to do something, he'd make up a lie about why he couldn't possibly do it. Hmm

And please don't feel that you're weak - you were fine, but this has dragged you down and that's how abuse works. If you're "weak", well then I have been "weak" for years and years, wondering why the hell my "nice, caring" (because he can be) boyfriend was behaving so weirdly and why I felt so miserable. Lying makes it hard to find your strength because it pulls the rug out from under you and you are left totally confused. Then of course when you try to address it, they will deny they lied, or try to blame you. I have pinned my exP down a million times and PROVED to him what he was saying could not be true and MADE him admit it, because otherwise I'd have lost my mind. And.... he just kept doing it.

I have found my strength but it took time. Like fraggle I knew for a long time it was over but had to find the courage to admit it to myself and feel strong enough to make it happen.

LadyReuleaux · 11/05/2016 12:14

(pinned down verbally, not physically I hasten to add!)

LadyReuleaux · 11/05/2016 12:23

Also, what fraggle said:

"I knew that if he was a liar about little things there was no way he would be honest about big things."

Because I knew exP was willing to lie to me at the drop of a hat, I couldn't trust him on anything. I realised that it just wasn't a relationship if I couldn't rely on anything he said.

Fragglewump · 11/05/2016 12:35

LadyReulleaux - Smile I've never been quoted on mumsnet before - thanks I feel wise now Halo

LadyReuleaux · 11/05/2016 12:40
Fragglewump · 11/05/2016 12:46

Not so wise - just spotted I added an extra 'l' to your name. Back to being a numpty - nice while it lasted........Grin

Hidingtonothing · 11/05/2016 14:43

OP I just want to point out that relationships don't have to (and shouldn't) be like this. It shouldn't be this much hard work and the more you post the worse it sounds, it must be like trying to run through treacle. Would the short term practicalities and inconvenience of leaving really be harder than staying with a man who makes life this difficult long term? Have you considered doing the Freedom Programme? Might help clarify things in your mind so you can see that this isn't right, isn't healthy and isn't worth the amount of effort you're having to put in or the damage it's doing to your MH and self esteem Flowers

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