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Advice on setting boundaries with grandparents, around birth of gc - from pregnancy announcement onwards

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magnificatAnimaMea · 25/04/2016 22:59

Just looking for advice on how to manage potentially overbearing, respectless, rude grandparents. I am nearly 10 weeks pregnant, not planning to announce anything until after the 20-week scan at the earliest. I can see trouble brewing ahead with unwanted visits (parents and PIL live overseas, and are unlikely to ask us if a visit is convenient before booking - sometimes even before arriving), aggressive behaviour, etc.

Firstly - my DH is supportive, he understands that my parents are completely messed up emotionally, that they are aggressive and overbearing and that they have little respect for me (they think I'm subnormal and can't manage my own life, my mother has told me it would be better for everyone if I were dead, etc), and that they rarely relate to me other than to criticise viciously. He also understands that his parents (who were initially very enthusiastic about me when I had the sort of career they approved of) now (that my career has stopped) see me as a feckless, stupid, lazy waste of space with my feet firmly under their son's table - so they are very unlikely to listen to me if they decide they want to do something with "their" gc. DH's approach to all this is "we'll discuss it and we'll work through it together".

However, I am slightly sceptical as to how that would work if his or my parents arrive on the doorstep, demand to be let in, snatch the baby, tell me I'm an idiot and shouldn't be looking after a child, etc etc. I suspect DH wouldn't do much, particularly if it were his parents.

Secondly - I am probably a bit wet and passive in all this, in that i just don't know how to manage these people. We have as little contact as possible. I visit once a year and spend the time basically zoned out and disengaged. Skype calls once every few weeks involve my parents talking about themselves, me saying "mm hmm" a lot, then me brightly "needing to get off so I can go and do some work". I give them as little informaion/ammunition as possible.
But aged nearly 40, I still feel criticised when my father tells me I'm a f*ing idiot, when my mother tells me I'm subnormal and blames me for being an embarrassment to her. When they crow about how my career clearly collapsed and I clearly have relatively few friends because I'm too stupid, I say nothing to contradict them, and a bit of me agrees with them.
If my FIL bites my head off in conversation over something where I'm trying to engage intellectually with him, I shrug and think "oh well, he does it to everyone, I'm too thick to provide enough mental stimulation for him" and say nothing at all for the rest of the visit. If my MIL makes nasty little digs about "flaring nostrils" (i.e. mine, apparently, on the grounds that all her friends' sons married lovely sensible stable girls with good jobs and good relationships with their lovely parents, whereas I'm clearly oversensitive, volatile, a loser), I politely take it on the chin and agree a bit, because to do otherwise would just confirm that I'm oversensitive and unstable and can't cope.
My PIL's friends sometimes sympathise with my MIL, in front of me, that not everyone has children who make the right choices, clearly meaning DH's choice of me. What can one say in those situations wothout making it all more awkward. Other than that kind of thing I am usually totally ignored at their parties - indeed at the last party most of the guests thought i was a caterer because I made most of the food and handed it around all evening - it was preferable to repeatedly attempting to start conversations and being rebuffed.

Thirdly - the outside world seems to think both our sets of parents are absolutely wonderful. I have on occasion been excoriated by friends of my mother's for my uselessness toward such a wonderful, vibrant, loving woman - or by ex-colleagues of my father's, for being such a failure after all my father did to set me up in my career - on the first time I've met these people.

How do we set boundaries so as to shield ourselves and our child appropriately from these people? I don't want to be wet but I don't really know what to say that will work. Most of the things i can think of will just convince PIL that I'm oversensitive and unstable, and my parents that I'm subnormal and incompetent.

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OnTheRise · 26/04/2016 09:39

Counselling or psychotherapy is brilliant at helping you improve your self esteem and in helping you confirm that these people are being abusive to you. They are: you really do deserve better. I'm glad you're going to get some sort of therapy now.

I've found CaptainAwkward.com brilliant in helping me define, set and protect my boundaries with difficult people. There are all sorts of scrips there which easy to adapt to your own situation; and there are discussions on how to proceed when setting boundaries. For example, if your parents go off on one it's important to react consistently and without engaging in their dramas. I hope you find it useful too.

Why do you have to tell your family anything about your baby at the moment? You can wait until the baby is safely here, and you're settled as a family, and understand what having a tiny baby involves before you even mention the baby to them. There is no rule which says you have to involve them prior to birth. It might well give you the breather you need to feel comfortable and able.

I am now no-contact with my abusive parents and wish I'd done it years sooner. They've gone out of their way to cause trouble all my life and although they can be really fun and nice, there is always a price to pay. We (husband, children, me) are much more relaxed and happy now they are out of the picture. It's been hard: but it's been so worth it. Sad, but there you go.

OzzieFem · 26/04/2016 17:16

Congratulations on being pregnant, and I hope everything goes well for you. I think you will probably have to end up being NC with your family, or else your child is going to hear all the hurtful, negative comments about her mum. What is to say they won't then start doing the same to their GC?

I sincerely hope your DH does step up to mark, and protects his family from both sets of parents. Good luck. Flowers

magnificatAnimaMea · 26/04/2016 21:40

CaptainAwkward.com is great, thanks for that link onTheRise.

I'm not planning to tell anyone anything for a good 10+ weeks yet. After that I will be forced into it because DH's parents have decided they might visit around the time of his 40th - and it will be obvious when they see me. They will go absolutely ballistic if it transpires then that we haven't told my parents - one of their narratives is that in my dysfunctionality I try to enlist people against my parents - so it might just be easier all round to have told people by the time they arrive.

However, I do kind of like telling people a due date that's off by about 4 weeks, as that will put the due date at Christmas and people might feasibly let us have Christmas to ourselves. Of course i'm probably kidding myself about all this...

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Atenco · 26/04/2016 22:11

Could you possibly be absent when your PIL visit?

I don't even know you and it makes me so angry that they think they have to right to treat you like that.

magnificatAnimaMea · 27/04/2016 21:06

Working on it - seeing if DH wants to go away for his birthday...

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coconutpie · 27/04/2016 21:52

You need to go NC with the lot of them. Do not allow your DC be subjected to them - you are being emotionally abused by them, they are toxic. No Skype, nothing. Cut them out of your life. I wouldn't even bother telling them about your pregnancy - they don't deserve to know.

They will get a million times worse once baby arrives and you may end up with PND as a result. Put an end to this circus now and protect both yourself and your baby.

fatflaps · 27/04/2016 23:13

I had to set boundaries when dc1 was born. I hadn't expected to need to so you are in a better position than I was in that you already have a good sense of the people you are dealing with.

The first few times you pushback on them will be very hard. And you'll feel guilty and confused but it will get easier I promise.

I don't think you sound weak but you may feel it. Having a baby made me gain an inner and outer voice that I didn't know I had. I was and still am happy to assert my position of Mummy Who Knows Best. It's a trump card. You will find ways to use it, trust me.

Good luck!

Ps. I know used to live v close to an Annandale and if it's the one I'm thinking of you are lucky to be that far assuming your parents are in the uk Wink

Duckdeamon · 28/04/2016 07:46

You are of them "letting you" have Christmas alone.

You and DH get to decide things, not them. It's a matter of what you allow.

blueberrypie0112 · 28/04/2016 13:17

I have a bunch of my husband's schoolwork and toys and Legos (they are the worst!) that my mil dropped off. I asked my husband why did she keep all these things. He told me she didn't, he did.

I ask him if he would let me sort them out and get rid of them but nope...he song let me.

Been years since. I am still attempt to sort them out secretly Because he would never know. I always felt what the point of keeping it if you are not going to look through it. Dust have been settle on top of these boxes. They are in our basement, taking up rooms. Do I dare? Would you?

blueberrypie0112 · 28/04/2016 13:18

Oops...wrong thread!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 28/04/2016 13:29

What coconut pie wrote.

None of these people will ever respect any boundary you care to set them, they will ride roughshod over the two of you. These people were not good parents to either of you, they will do similar harm to your as yet unborn child as well given any opportunity.

The best gift you can give to your child is to not subject him or her at all to people like your parents and your H's parents. They will use your child as ammo against you and will try to completely undermine your own parenting skills.

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