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upset by DD's DF and in floods of tears

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justfornow25022016 · 25/02/2016 13:21

I'm crying my eyes out and trying to look after my DD (she's asleep for now) and struggling to do that, I can't even read the Cat in the Hat because my voice is catching and I'm sobbing on every line.

I've done a stupid thing and I can't take it back, and the only person I've ended up hurting/punishing is my DD, and it's eating me up.

It's to do with her dad's maintenance, I think I mis-read a situation and/or gave him the excuse he was looking for, I asked the csa to step in to try to sort things out because his payments were becoming less reliable, it's backfired because they have made things 10 times worse. He's now going to be paying about £10 a week.

It means that financially, I'm going to be about £100 worse off per month (so £1200 per year) and I feel like all I've achieved, is to make life harder for DD. That money would have covered all her clothes, shoes, play, little treats. I've just wiped all that out.

At the same time, I'm upset by the tone of the messages he's sent. The back story is that DD was the result of a fling, he left me to decide what to do with the pregnancy, right at the start of it (cut contact completely and moved cities) and has never met her despite my best efforts to set that up, but until now we've been able to discuss the money quite amicably. The messages I've received today are horrid, he's accusing me of only contacting the csa to money grab from him (which wasn't my intention at all). He sounds angry and is telling me how he's been struggling to make ends meet and is glad that this means he won't now be paying as much for DD, and basically accusing me of being a nasty person, who has been making life hard for him.

I've tried calling to have a reasonable conversation but he won't answer, I've also tried replying to his messages to point out that the only person he is punishing by paying less is DD. Given that he's rejected her since day one, I guess it's silly of me to think that he would care at all about her. But I care about her, so I have to try.

What's really upsetting me is the tone of the messages, and the fact that he seems to think he's been doing me a favour by paying anything, and is now taking the higher moral ground because I was somehow trying to 'milk him' for more and failed. And the talk of him struggling, that's really galling. He doesn't have a clue what I've been through because he didn't stick around to discuss or deal with any of it. I was completely on my own and still am. Noone was there when I spent most of my pregnancy trying to hide it and trying not to cry uncontrollably on public transport, or when I went through 2 days of labour/birth on my own. I've spent most of the last 2+ years raising DD with zero support, in a new place, where there has never been anyone to talk to about my feelings ever and I've been holding them all in for so long. I haven't used a babysitter and gone out ever and have devoted myself to doing a good job with DD. So many things have been so incredibly hard. I think if I told him the truth he would just think I was exaggerating. He seems to think I'm lying when I say I'm not on benefits and struggling to find work, but I'm not.

I think he blames me for continuing with the pregnancy after he'd disappeared (and then asking him for financial help once DD was here). But I didn't know what to do, I didn't even get to talk to a counsellor back then and was so emotional, and before I knew it it was too late to 'get rid' of DD. And I'm glad in the end because she is wonderful. If he had stuck around back then we could have at least talked about it.

There are so many things I could say to him about how life has been but I don't think he's ever really been interested (which is why I haven't), and definitely isn't now. Maybe what's coming out today is just all the emotion from holding it in but I can't help it.

DD doesn't seem to know what's going on and isn't much affected by me crying and I'm glad about that. But I'm so mad at myself for the stupid conversation with the csa and thinking that they could somehow fix things.

Anyway, I have noone in RL to say these things to and am struggling to pick myself up today, I can usually do it.

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justfornow25022016 · 26/02/2016 05:30

Daemon I've never tried to force him to do anything. Since DD was born I've left the door open for him to meet DD at any time and have encouraged that, I used to send photos. I did that for DD not for me, and because the DF kept telling me he was going to come to see her. I was trying to do the right thing. To begin with I assumed he was just busy and after a while I began to wonder, then I realised he was never going to come and see her. If he had said back then that he never wanted to see her I would have respected that too, but he didn't.

Honestly, after everything I've been through and especially after yesterday I'd prefer he wasn't involved. When DD is old enough to understand and handle it, I'll give her more information and she can make her own mind up about him. I won't be making direct contact again. As a pp said, his loss - and she's probably better off without him in her life.

Yes he is in another relationship, but as far as I knew/know his GF knows about DD.

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newname99 · 26/02/2016 08:32

I think the cms assessment is just the tipping point for you.You wanted some good news after spending so long struggling.Could you access some counselling as I feel you need support to talk through your feelings.You may have been running on adrenalin for several years and now it's all coming to the surface.Take care of yourself as you deserve it.

I know you feel your ex should be the person interested in DD but if you seek any support from him you will always be disappointed and left feeling vulnerable.

Please don't feel any stigma from being a LP, my good friend and I met when she had just became a LP and I was totally happy to support her.She's fabulous.

If you continue to feel low maybe see your GP it's not worth struggling on your own and sometimes we all need support.I was at my lowest when ds was around 2 but didn't think to get help as it's gradual and I forgot how happy I used to be.After some ADs I could feel the fog lifting and realised I had been low.

Chocolatteaddict1 · 26/02/2016 11:48

morning op
How are you today?

I think you have been really accommodating to this idiot and it's now time to shut the door. More fool him for choosing to miss out.

I was 16 when I had dd1 and back then you didn't really get a lot, I had good help of my DGM and dd1,DGM so muddled through. I met a few BF but as I was still so young they were never anything serious and I think I had low self esteem.

When I started to get my act together I trained to start a career I always wanted and that boosted my self esteem massively. It was only when I wasn't looking I met Dh (who had been under my nose all the time) it instantly felt safe and secure and I knew he was for keeps. I don't regret my past as I wouldn't be who I am today, I consider myself to be very independant and God forbid if Dh walked out today - I know I would be ok. Been there done it type of thing.

Try not spend any more savings, I'd try and hide it so you can get on your feet with benefits. probally get blasted for that on MN

Rebecca2014 · 26/02/2016 11:58

So is he self employed or o benefits? If self employed you should asked for advice online first because it's notoriously hard to get money off self employed fathers. If he's on benefits, one day he have to return to work and your get child support eventually.

I'm a single mum, I understand how frustrating it is. Trurly I do, but there comes a time you got let the anger go (I'm nearly there, still get rages occasionally) his money was never reliable and now you got learn to live without it. At least now you can cut him out for good,no point begging him to reconsider as legally he's now paying correct amount. Your get through,this won't last forever!

Slowdecrease · 26/02/2016 12:42

OP if you truly do wish he wasn't involved at all and in reality he's only involved to the tune of £40 per month now and in no other way at all...then wouldn't it be better to take control, cut off the £40 a week or divert it to a savings account for DD and forget all about him. The past is the past and there's is no point going over it now and he was just a fling in your past, from which you ended up with a fabulous momento. You HAVE to reframe your thinking about this or you will constantly suffer mentally at your own hands.

Beachlovingirl · 26/02/2016 13:33

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cestlavielife · 26/02/2016 14:07

why have you not been out or got a babysitter?

how old is dd? soon she can get nursery place right and you can start going out - join a choir or something locally.

ask gp to refer you for some counselling to boost your self esteem and move forward. no point railing at him.

justfornow25022016 · 26/02/2016 14:21

Thank you everyone. I woke up and couldn't help crying again, spent the morning in because I couldn't stop and my face was all red but now by this afternoon I'm getting better. newname I think you are right it's not this one thing but everything from the last few years coming to the surface, so many times I haven't cried, not been able to etc. The hardest part is not beating myself up because I'm so good at that, and know I'm in part responsible for what happened yesterday. Like you all say I have to get past it, for DD and can't change a thing anyway.

Do ADs work? I'm wary of them somehow suppressing emotions that would come out later but then I guess that's what I've been doing anyway.

Rebecca yes he is working, I'm not sure whether on payroll or self employed, the csa might know but not sure whether they will tell me, I haven't asked yet.

I will manage. I won't be sending any more photos or such about DD, Slow yes she is fabulous, she really is and I am a lucky mummy. He is nothing to me but she is everything. A savings account is a good idea x

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Grumpyoldblonde · 26/02/2016 17:16

just If you stick around on Mumsnet, you will get endless support and advice on anything from how to manage your budget, schooling, relationships, really, anything that worries you. You will also have company here and some laughs - always something to read on a lonely evening. Have a chat with your GP if you feel you need something in the form of anti-depressants, you can discuss any likely side-effects in depth.
I think you would be wise to try to let go of the past if you can, you could have a wonderful life ahead of you even if it all seems bleak now. I wish you the very best.

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