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I dont know what to do..

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MrsOs · 16/02/2016 08:42

I have been with my h for 12 years married for 10. After we got married we started trying for a baby.. 5 long years, 4 rounds of ivf and still no baby... It really took it out of us. Sex became a chore.. After round 4 we gave up, my dad died and we put on hold adoption plans. We were told we wouldnt conceive naturally. Then a miracle happened and i fell pregnant with our ds who is now 3. Our sexual relationship has never recovered from the years of timed sex.. We just dont do it anymore.. I have no sex drive atall. He never instigates anything. We rarely hug or kiss. Im so tired all the time. I work a full week in 4 days. Get up at 530 to get ready, get son up for nursery and get off to work in london. I get back about 7 ish.. Eat, put son to bed and fall into bed myself. Fridays im home with son and we either go to see nanna and take her shopping or we play at home or meet for soft play with a friend. I have been caring for my mum since my dad died. She is 82 in poor health and needs me to go every week to take her shopping, she lives about an hour away. I either go fridays with my son or saturdays. So i have not much time to myself really and we dont get much family time.

My husband takes our son to nursery, picks him up, feeds him, cooks when i get home. He does washing but doesnt iron or really do much cleaning. The main thing that i get upset about with us is the lack of intimacy, lack of any show of affection. Every now and again i say i cant go on in a loveless marriage but it doesnt ever achieve anything, he says we need to try harder but nothing happens. Claims be loves me to bits..

He is lazy in that respect. He is lazy in maintaining relationships with his family, his friends.. He will never instigate doing stuff with me or our son, we do stuff without him most of the time. He prefers to stay home and play boom beach on his phone or ipad or play ps4 or watch football. He will get out of coming with us for stuff by saying ill stay home and cook sunday dinner.

I just want someone to show me some love. I do so much for everyone, for him i make sure bills are paid, food in fridge, son is clothed... I look out for my mum, work hard and i dont feel anyone really cares about me. No one asks me how i am feeling.. I feel like i have to arrange stuff for everyone!

On saturday i was quite ill but still needed to go see my mum, our son wanted to come with me so i took him. My h had 9 hours at home alone (something i never get) and i got home and he hadnt made the bed or hoovered or anything. I said to him have you been playing your games all day? He said not all day no! I was like how can you not have hoovered, so now i have to come in from all day out with our son and tidy up! I was really angry. He went and hoovered but nothing else was said. He should have thought to do something more than sit on his fucking arse all day surely?

I have now moved into the spare bedroom as i have had enough of no one giving a shit about me. I dont know what is going to happen next. He hasnt spoken to me about it.. He probably wont. He just wants to drift along in life and think everything is ok. He needs to grow up. I dont see other family men spending all their time playing stupid games when they should be spending time with their family or helping their wife. I dont think he has ever really taken our son out without me! Except to the supermarket. I go out to my mums and if he has our son i will say why dont you take him to the park or go for lunch and i get back and our son will have his face in the ipad, and he will be watching tv and they wont have done much else all day.

If we do go out together he tends to ruin the mood with his moaning. He will either fight with son trying to get him in and out of the car or over react when our son is misbehaving because he doesnt know how to handle it or he will be moaning whilst driving at other drivers which is really unnecessary and i just cant be arsed with it all, i want a quiet day out but it always turns into drama with him. If he goes off on one he doesnt care who sees and it can be really embarrassing. Its like he doesnt know how to behave appropriately sometimes. He doesnt come to my mums with me anymore because they rub each other up the wrong way.

He isnt a violent man atall but he doesnt have much patience for stuff. One thing that also annoys me is that we were both bought up in council houses and were lucky for the things we had. Especially him as his mum was a single parent. We were only lucky enough to get our nice house because i sold my flat when we got married and made some money from the sale, enough for the deposit. But still he isnt happy, always saying this kitchen is shit its so small etc etc.. For his job he sees big houses with nice kitchens etc etc.. He wants an extension for our house, he wants this he wants that but he doesnt earn much. Most of the savings are from my salary. When we get things i think will make him happy, it then isnt usually long before he starts with 'this is so shit'. It annoys that he never seems happy and he seems ungrateful. I say that to him but he doesnt see it. It can be very wearing being around someone like that and i often wonder if i would be happier on my own with my son.

Sorry for the long post.. Had to get it out.

OP posts:
plainjanine · 16/02/2016 13:55

When I read the OP, I thought two things: "cocklodger" and "manchild".

I think "be a man" is exactly what he needed to hear.

HazelBite · 16/02/2016 14:04

OP, perhaps your DH is like many men and needs things spelt out to him. Did you ask him to do the hoovering, or expected him to see that it needed doing?.

My Dh's dad was always at work when he was little, Dh found it hard to play and interact with the Dc's. His mother did everything on a domestic level and I'm afraid everything that I needed help with needed to be spelt out to him, especially when Dc's 3& 4 came along.

We had to keep talking and I had initially be very positive when he did things that were asked of him.

It all comes very naturally to him now and I'm sure we are closer as a result.

MatildaTheCat · 16/02/2016 14:18

Can I suggest you stop texting and sit down together and talk? Your marriage is at stake. You've both acknowledged there are serious problems. Is he hiding from his misery by playing fantasy games all the time? He may feel very shut out of the relationship you have with ds and feel lonely. He may need to learn to have fun together and how to lighten up even a little. I believe people can change and alter their perspective from negative to positive at least some of the time.

Chores should be discussed and expectations made clear. I would have been furious about the Saturday incident but he may feel wronged if you didn't tell him what needed to be done. That leads to whether you are prepared to take that role or whether you want him to take initiative. That's harder.

Be honest, do you ever smile at him and say nice things? It's really easy to fall into a routine of only saying bad stuff and never remembering to smile and just be nice. Especially if you feel everyone else is getting the best of you. If visiting and helping your mum so often is too much can this change at all? Arranging meals to be delivered and / or carers? In all likelihood it will be necessary in time so worth investigating.

From what you say this marriage is very, very tired. I would think it still has the potential to be happy again. The question is if you both want to put in the effort? Both changing? Being willing to hear what he feels about it all.

Finally, is he depressed? Worth checking as that casts a very long shadow over life. If you are both willing to work on the marriage consider counselling to ensure it is equal and fairly balanced. If you say you have no time to do this then sadly there lies your answer.

Best wishes.

MrsOs · 16/02/2016 14:47

We will hopefully talk now but i dont know where to start to improve things.

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MatildaTheCat · 16/02/2016 14:49

Both write a list of key concerns and sit down in a neutral space to discuss one at a time? Then agree on a couple of points and go from there. Getting started will be hard but getting divorced harder still. Got to be worth trying?

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