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Mum, emotionally, told us all that she has given up smoking on Christmas Day and I have reasons to believe she isn't going to do it.

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SPARKLER1clausiscomingtotown · 28/12/2006 20:44

Wasn't sure whether to post this in health or relationships. Guess from my point of view the relationship side of things is the primary thing.
Christmas Day my mum handed me a present and told me to open it carefully. Inside there was a kitchen towel carboard tube with a piece of paper inside. I pulled it out and printed on the paper was a certificate from our local hospital stating that she was officially now a non-smoker and it was signed and dated by a medical professional. Mum sat with tears in her eyes telling me how she had done so well for nearly seven weeks and had been going to see this "person" every Friday for the past few weeks and she had kept it a secret so that she could give us all a lovely surprise for christmas. I told her that was good and that I hoped that she would stick to her word.
That's fantastic I can hear you all say. But even when she did all this above I had my doubts and found it very hard to be pleased and to wish her well. I have my reasons for this and valid ones at that.
Mum has always been a smoker since her early teens so I totally understand that it's going to be hard for her and she will need all the support we as family can give her. But, when I gave birth to dd1, I told mum that dd and anymore children that I planned to have would not be staying with her for long visits/sleepovers if she continued to smoke indoors. It was difficult to tell her what she should do in her own home. but they were my children. Iny any case, my step dad was ill with bronchitis and smoking near him, as far as I'm concerned, was unacceptable anyway.
Don't get me wrong here - I'm no angel myself, have been known to have a couple of cigarettes myself on a night out when drinking.
She promised me that she wouldn't smoke near or around the children and I believed her, very stupidly, but everytime I went round to pick up the kids the next day. Their clothes and hair would stink of nicotine. I asked her why and she would deny being around them and that if she had smoked she would have gone out the garden.
This is why I feel so uncertain about her capability to give up - certificate from hospital or not.
My sister has even been cross with me in my inability to be pleased with mum and her really good effort of giving up for seven weeks, she hasn't gone past three days before. Currently she is wearing a patch and has a little plastic tube which she inhales when absolutely necessary. One drag on this tube and it makes her cough.
Today I spoke to my auntie on the phone and she asked me if I had spoken to mum. I hadn't but said I was going to call her afterwards. Apparently mum had phoned her sister today and told her that when my stepdad was napping this afternoon she sneaked into the back garden for a sneaky cigarette, went dizzy and fell over and banged her nose. Not really surprising when she has enough nicotine going into her system already.
I called mum straight after I spoke to my auntie and never mentioned what my auntie had said. I thought I would wait for her to say something to me but she never said a thing. I put the phone down and have felt very since to think that she should emotionally tell us all that on xmas day and then yet again, lie.
Sorry to ramble but I am feeling really hurt right now.

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andaSOAPBOXinapeartree · 28/12/2006 20:48

I think you are being very unfair on her. I've never smoked but from what I gather the level of addiction is pretty awful. She is trying very hard to kick this habit from the sounds of it - and what she needs is support from those close to her - lots of positive thinking etc etc. Not doubting Thomases - the she's mucked up before so she'll never do it now! What an ugly label to stick on someone!

SPARKLER1clausiscomingtotown · 28/12/2006 21:03

Thanks Soapbox. I appreciate everyones view and I hope it may make me to understand from other people's points of view.
I would love to believe that she is going to quit, I really would. She had a stroke at the age of 32 and it is so worrying to us all that she has continued to smoke even after that frightening time at such a young age. She has told us a few times now that she promises she is going to stop for herself her grandchildren and that she wants to stop and yet she never does. To lie about it too really hurts.

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tribpot · 28/12/2006 21:03

I think the important thing is that she's trying. One of my best friends is a lung cancer specialist, and another is a dental surgeon who has to do mouth reconstructions for people with mouth cancer and quite frankly on their behalf: any attempt is better than none.

But I also agree with you she can't have the applause if she isn't going to commit to the effort, is there any way you can make it easier for her to admit her trangressions, whilst making it clear you want her to quit? I think if she feels she has to lie, it makes it easier to keep it going in secret.

I know what you mean, though, it's either: do it , or don't do it. My dh quit a 60-a-day habit overnight about 15 years ago and everyone thought it was amazing. But having seem him quit morphine in a week and methadone in 2 days, I know now that there are simply addictive personalities and non-addictive ones. He found it easy; your mum obviously finds it really, really hard. I would focus on ways to support her, and not ways to police her, if you possibly can.

tribpot · 28/12/2006 21:08

Sparkler, both of my friends, particularly the dental surgeon, are horrified by how many people continue to smoke after surgery / chemo / whatever. Addiction is a very powerful thing - as you say, she WANTS to stop, but she can't. I hope the NHS scheme can help her - can you speak to her counsellor / person who she sees on a Friday?

charliecat · 28/12/2006 21:08

Shes trying Sparkler, its Bloody Hard.
Your mind works against you and it takes great strenght to not smoke. Its a sight lot easier to reach for a fag than to suffer 3 hours of mentalness with your head saying, go on you know you want too, just one wont hurt...go on...just one. Its awful.
I must have tryed to stop smoking 600 times. Each one a genuine attempt..and complete failure of varying degree.
Shes trying, you have GOT to give her credit for that. And if she falls of the straight and narrow tell her to get back on.
If she does confess to her one blip, slip into the conversation that no non smoker ever stayed stopped by having a sly fag. Its a slippery slope.

SPARKLER1clausiscomingtotown · 28/12/2006 21:12

Thank guys. I appreciate you coming back to me.
I just need to try and rebuild my faith and trust in her but it's bloody hard when she has let me down. I hated it when she promised me that she wasn't smoking around my children when it was blantantly obvious that she was.

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charliecat · 28/12/2006 21:16

My mums smokes too, doesnt even pretend to be giving up. Is apparently happy to smoke herself to death. If a bag of stuff comes from her house when I open the zip its like an ashtrays in there. Really reeks.
Maybe she was at the back door, thinking it was going outside...but ti was wafting inside instead.
Didnt realise myself how smoke creeps about till I stopped myself and could smell dps fag upstairs in be when he was at the backdoor.

andaSOAPBOXinapeartree · 28/12/2006 21:20

Sparkler - my mum is at the back door right now and we live in a huge house - yet I can still smell it in the room we are sitting in now!

If I could wave a magic wand then I would wish she would give it up - but there really isn't any way it is going to happen!

It is a pretty horrid addiction - and I wish it was different, but I'm not going to let her love of ciggies ruin our relationship or that with our children! I hate it though - I really, really do!

Charliecat - whenever a parcel arrives from my mum and my DCs open it - they always say - oooh it's from Nana, it smells of her[yuck]

Pixiefish · 28/12/2006 21:24

I go to my MIL's house and even though she doesn't smoke while we are there dd and I both stink to high heaven of fags whenever we come from there.

She may not actually be smoking around the kids but it is in the air and on te furniture

VeniVidiVickiQV · 28/12/2006 21:46

My two have been to my parents house, when my Mum - who smokes - has been at work all day whilst my dad - who doesnt smoke has been there looking after them.

They still reek of smoke when I collect them, simply because my mum smokes 30 odd cigarettes a day and has done since before she moved into that house 27 years ago.

This may be the case with your Mum.

I think you need to give her some slack. I suspect the reason she didnt tell you about what your Aunt told you because she has probably noticed your lack of support and possibly your scepticism, so, why would she let you in on something she probably feels very ashamed or guilty about?

Support her. Show her how proud you are of her.

Pruni · 28/12/2006 21:53

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