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He won't leave! I don't know how to make him move out!

38 replies

RantsAndGrannyPants · 13/01/2016 04:30

Please just be honest with me... What the hell do I do???

Am I just a stupid? Or is he the one with issues? Sorry that this may come out as a long rant but I feel so alone and afraid. I have no friends left and so I'm turning to you guys for some moral support. I've left out a lot of info that might out me and hence this account. But I feel the need to "off load" so I apologise!!!

We've been together for 2 and a half years after meeting online, both are in our early 30's and in professional, well paid jobs. I'm a vet.

When we first met, he was this affectionate, devoted man. He had loads of time for me, really fun, everything I could have wanted... Or so I thought!

Back then, I would get the train every weekend and travel over 100 miles each way to see him and stay with him in the city where he was living and this went on for about 12 months.

He once explained that he would never be the type to cheat as his father had done this to his mother and then explained that his previous girlfriend had cheated on him and knows how much it hurt. (I'm mentioning it as I'm wondering if this has had some sort of effect on him.)

We moved in together about a year into the relationship. I moved to the capital to be with him and found a salaried job. Leaving behind my rural family practice over a 100 miles away.
This house was rented in his name and I'd pay him my share of rent on time every month, plus buy food for us, clean the flat, cook his dinner every night etc but I suffer from depression and went through a patch where I struggled to get out of bed. He started calling me lazy, fat, slob etc. This is when the trouble really started. My job in itself is mentally taxing, but the grief at home was adding to it. I told him I was leaving, but he locked me in, barricaded the door and cried. I stayed.

Every single week he would invite his mum or sisters round every weekend or he'd go to his hometown around 50 miles away if they weren't able to come up, but if I wanted to travel to see my mum, he'd get the hump and guilt trip me.
I told him I was unhappy, depressed.
He told me that we would go our separate ways once the rental contract expires as it was my "duty" to him to see it out and not to leave him in the sh*t. I stayed here for 12 months in total (been together 2 years by now).
I found myself a new job on the other side of the city and an animal friendly flat (which is entirely in my name) and at the eleventh hour, he decided he was going to move in as he hadn't found anywhere else to go.

Since that day, (6 months ago) things have taken a turn for the worse. The day after moving his things in he reported that he would be moving out very soon as "he was too good to be living in an ex council place" as he "shouldn't have to on his salary" Yet 6 month later, he's still there. I found this very insulting. He grew up on a council estate. I earn more than him, I've had a very privileged life and yet I don't see the problem with ex authority! And in all honesty, it's all I could afford on my own in the capital!

Other things...

He doesn't pay me any rent on time (I don't need his money, it's the principle) though he will contribute towards bills.

He called me a "f*ing c**t for making his steak medium instead of well done. I don't eat meat, I tried my best. He threw a hissy fit and stormed off to the bedroom.

He's completely rigid and totally inflexible. If you move a goal post he can't handle it. He gets really worked up. For example, I want to go to Tesco tomorrow at 8pm, however if I say I need to go today at 4pm, he will throw a wobbly.

He's extremely tight fisted, for example he'll buy milk or toilet rolls and then ask me to transfer him 50p or £2 for my share. He never wants to eat out (despite me loving it) as he thinks it's a "waste of money" and I should cook at home. If we have a falling out and he has (rarely) paid for something such as for my birthday, I will hear about it, such as "you ungrateful tw*t, don't forget I paid £60 bill!" when I spend more than that on groceries every week and don't ask for his contribution. If I do ask, he'll make excuses not to pay. He isn't short of money, he's just been on a very luxurious holiday with his mates.

I'm sure he checks my phone and emails and snoops through my receipts crisising my purchases. He constantly tries to catch me out (when I've done nothing wrong) but I'm always so scared I'm now lying about stupid things such as how much I spent on my frying pan!

He constantly criticises my mum and my kid brother who's 18 (my dads died, so he can't critique him). Says he won't visit my mum's house because it's dirty with the animals and will constantly lecture me about it and have a dig at my brother saying he's useless for not being academic, wearing "chavvy" clothes from Topman, smoking cigarettes, basically anything he can think of and he hardly knows my brother! I don't understand what it's got to do with him! Baring in mind, he won't slag mum or brother off to their faces but is extremely hostile towards them that even they've stopped visiting me. (They don't know the extent of the situation with him).

Worst day of all, I was working a 12 hour shift on Xmas day and then back into work Boxing Day too which was planned months in advance as I was covering the emergency rota. He said we'd have Xmas dinner at 9pm when I got home, he'd buy everything and me not to worry. But I found out from his sister on Xmas eve after he didn't come home from work that he was at his mums and had taken MY dog and was going to spend Xmas with his family and stay there for a week. When I asked him why he didn't tell me he said "well there's no point, you're gonna pretty much miss Xmas anyway" and I should have my mum to come down (pointless asking her to drive a 4 hour round trip as I was back in work at 9am). I spent Xmas completely alone, not even my own dog to keep me company. Am I making a big deal out of it? Or am I being selfish for wanting him to spend some Xmas day with me at our home??

Whenever I ask him to move out, he will have an argument, cry, apologise, tell me he loves me and will be nice for about a day.

On the contrary, he also keeps saying he'll move out when he gets a job closer to his mum, I've helped him apply for more than 20 which takes up a lot of my time and yet tonight when I said I had my own things to do tonight (I've got reports to write for work), told me I could be a "right c*nt at times" now he's stormed off to the bedroom and is crying.

He's threatened to make my "life hell" if I leave him.

Why I haven't left...

I'm alone in this city, I have no friends or family here. I'm worried as to what he might do to me/himself if he moved out.

I haven't packed up and gone back to mum's as I'm now a partner in a practice so I don't want to give that up.

I don't know how to get him out of MY flat and honestly, I have such low self esteem now, I'm just putting up with this sh*t.

Thank you so much for even opening this thread. Putting it on "paper" makes it all seem clearer.

OP posts:
LilaTheTiger · 13/01/2016 09:35

Everything they said.

He has NO RIGHT TO BE IN YOUR FLAT.

The cheeky cunt.

Valuables safely off the premises.
Change the locks
Bag up his junk and leave it outside
Friend/relative to stay for a couple of nights
Police if he kicks off

You can be free!

RantsAndGrannyPants · 13/01/2016 09:39

thanks everyone for replying!

SeriousSteve... That's a good question, what am I getting out of the relationship? Well, I suppose in all honesty, nothing much except being scared by him.

Obsidian... He moved in as he hadn't found anywhere else to move to and computing to his work is over 2 hours by train each way from his mum so I stupidly allowed him to thinking it was my flat, I could get him to leave.

Lovemusic... I've tried that with him, he doesn't go. I think I just need to be stronger and more forceful. I'm so happy to hear that you've a new dp who loves you and cares for you!

Allyjay.. Thank you for your kind words, sounds ridiculous but I've just realised that he is incredibly manipulative. Sometimes you just need to hear it from someone else!

Mix... I think the fear is not being alone in this city, I'm sure I'd make friends, the fear is being alone and him breaking in, harassing me etc and I don't have that "back up" I would if I was at mums.
It would take me a while to pack up and head back, I think I will go home At some point in the near future.

Isetan... That's exactly what j needed to hear!!

N3w and purple... Thanks for that, you're both right. What I need to do is forward plan. I'm going to give myself until the 31st January.

Thank you all. A few bits, I don't quite understand what his obsession with his mum and sisters is. For example, we went on a "relaxing" holiday to the Caribbean last year and he spent most of the week on FaceTime with his mum and sisters from the beach, pool, bedroom etc. Or I wanted to buy a new bed frame and he had to ask their opinion. (When I was paying for it) or have a 3 hour group chat about which mobile insurance his mum should get. Is this normal for controlling, emotionally abusive people? His dad left when he was around 10. Sisters were 6 and 1.

He needs to be out of here by 31st January. I've set a goal date. I will try and get my friends and family to come and stay for a few days, should there be any backlash.

Additionally, I forgot to mention, the reason I haven't got the police involved before is because, without giving too much away, he works in a "law enforcing" kind of job! And have been scared that no one will believe me.
I think that's my main issue and then there is the fear of him kicking off, breaking in and stealing my dog when I'm at work or plastering things on social media, who knows what he's capable of!

OP posts:
RantsAndGrannyPants · 13/01/2016 09:50

Sorry I'm having trouble keeping up with all your brilliant comments!

Lonecat, that was really useful to know. I'll call them a bit later. Thank you!!

Hellsbells, that's brilliant advise the women's aid, I think that might be just the back up I need to know I'm not alone.

Although ideally, I'd love to change the locks etc right now, I've had to forward plan so my mum and brother can come and stay with me for a few days and also, gives me time to take my pets somewhere safe in the meanwhile.

OP posts:
SkiptonLass2 · 13/01/2016 09:53

If the locks are changed the day you tell him to go he can't get back in. If he breaks in he's committed an offence. If you genuinely think he'd force entry then you need to deal with that - you can get cheap webcams that feed to your phone for example.
Working in law enforcement is not a get out of jail free card and doesn't give him the right to walk all over you.

You can do this - please do have backup though. If you think he'd try to nab the dog why don't you leave him at your parents while you do all this?

As for the enmeshment with his mum and sisters - ignore it. It'll soon not be your problem. Stay safe!

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 13/01/2016 11:25

OK, that gives you two weeks to make your plans. Getting the pets elsewhere (simply because you then won't have the known routine of walking them) is a great idea.

Get good locks, including window locks. Breaking and entering is a crime, remember, you don't get a free pass for that.

Social media - meh, yes, he probably will say all sorts but ignore, ignore, ignore and block block block. And don't waste your time trying to get to the bottom of his issues - not your circus, not your monkeys.

Women's Aid can also help you plan. You can log things ahead of time on 101 so the police are aware. I'd also talk to your other partners at work and friends - this shit thrives on secrecy, the more open you are the better (although time this carefully so your plans don't leak)

You can totally do this.

CheersMedea · 13/01/2016 14:55

I forgot to mention, the reason I haven't got the police involved before is because, without giving too much away, he works in a "law enforcing" kind of job! And have been scared that no one will believe me.

Two things on this:

firstly, if it's your place you don't need anyone to believe you to ask him to leave. You are entitled to do that. You don't need to prove he's abusive to get him out.

secondly, going forward, if you think that no one is likely to believe you on abuse issues, then don't forget that recording videoing conversations on an iphone or otherwise is a possibility. Obviously the best advice is to get away asap so you aren't even in that situation but just flagging as a thought.

Lonecat - the Vet's charity was a great thing to suggest, I think a lot of people forget about or aren't aware of charities like that who support professionals or don't know what they do.

He sounds a real treat OP. Reading the Christmas day account made my heart break for you esp taking your dog. What an utter #@*&##$% he is!!

Lonecatwithkitten · 13/01/2016 15:14

Thank you Cheers as a profession we are big internalisers and copers and the mere fact that the Op is posting here tells me that things are way worse than she is portraying. As such she needs people to listen to her and support her who understand this. It is a very special charity able to offer a wide variety of help some of it quite surprising and very practical. I am a big supporter my practice makes an annual donation to try and help ensure that our profession always has this help.
Op I have been through a pretty horrendous marriage break up and I didn't realise I was being emotional abused until a long while after. Would any of the other practice staff help with your pets if they knew your position - I certainly would.

HeadDreamer · 13/01/2016 15:28

I was going to suggest having your brother over with you too, like SkiptonLass2 says. Are you close to your brother? If he's a decent guy, he'll help you if you confess to him.

Your boyfriend is abusive and dangerous. Having a young man with you will give him the right signal about you aren't alone, and that you have family to protect you.

CheersMedea · 13/01/2016 15:41

Lonecat - I'm only aware of these charities because a friend of mine had a lot of help after having serious and unexpected psychiatric issues resulting in massive income loss. Their professional charity gave them a huge amount of help which got them through a difficult time and saved them from probably ending up permanently unemployed. It's great to draw them to the attention of people. See for example:

Accountants Benevolent Ass
www.caba.org.uk/

Solicitors Benevolent Ass
www.sba.org.uk/

OP - I'm also in the group of people wondering if this guy has the potential to be violent. Do be careful and have people around you if you can at crucial points if you think he will be there and be abusive.

Redglitter · 13/01/2016 15:45

Doesn't matter if he's a police officer you will still be believed. Actually if anything it'll be taken more seriously because (in our force) a call like this involving a police officer would have to be dealt with by a Sgt or higher. I've known cops lose their jobs for domestic incidents so don't think he's got a get out because of his work

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 13/01/2016 16:39

Can I just derail quickly to say a heartfelt 'yay' for Redglitter's force? It's great to hear that a process like that is in place.

Cloudhowe63 · 13/01/2016 17:32

Well done for seeing through his nonsense. He sounds awful - and dangerous. I agree that it would be wise to get a relative, friend or colleague to stay if possible.
It sounds like your mum and brother may have a sense that all isn't well. Can you confide in them?
I think you will find it easier to build a support network without him. It will take time, but I suspect your confidence will grow.
How would you like your life to be in 6 months or a year? You relocated to be with him, but you don't need to be tied to the city.

Cleensheetsandbedding · 13/01/2016 17:36

Tell him to leave. Now. If he doesn't phone police. It really is that simple.

Come on wake up!

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