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Is there really no hope? (Long sorry)

33 replies

goggleboxismygod · 03/01/2016 09:25

Dp and have been together for 4.5 years. We bought a house 18 months ago.

About 4 weeks ago he told me that he thought there was something wrong in our relationship and he couldn't tell me what it was. I was pretty upset as I had just thought that it was the fact that he was constantly tired from months of long hours at work coupled with the December tradition of too many nights out at too many Christmas parties. He was adamant it was more but he couldn't put his finger on it.

We went to his family for Christmas. He is adamant that he specifically asked me not to fight with him there. He may have done... I can't remember really, but of course after a lot of alcohol and a couple of days after Christmas we had a fight. I really didn't think it was that loud but apparently his parents overheard it and got very upset because I had berated him for what he says was 2 hours. I am not convinced it was that long but I do agree that I was pretty nasty at times and that I did go too far down the berating route because I felt really crap about our relationship. He had barely touched me, looked at me, spoken to me without some sort of issue or really included me and I felt very low.

Nothing was said about it by his family the next day. That next evening, after more alcohol, I walked behind him in a pub and saw him texting some woman from work saying something like "can't wait to talk to you too xxxxxxxx". Cue second argument outside there, His tone changed dramatically and he said he wanted to end it. He said I have been really nasty to him on too many occasions and that thee have been times where I have upset him so much that he has caused himself bruises or gone into work and cried in the toilets. He has literally never told me either of those things before, though I agree that after certain arguments I have also felt that I have been slightly too nasty. I was really upset to hear that I could ever have caused such upset. He says I should have known that I was hurting him that much and that the fact that he didn't tell me is irrelevant... I just shouldn't have done it.

The texting was glossed over and he said that she was in a similar situation to him and that he had text her for someone to neutral to talk to. I still think this is in appropriate and the fact that he literally deleted the entire text thread as soon as I saw that one thing is fishy.

We talked most of the night and I had managed to persuade him to get through the last day at his family's and then to talk to me at home. However, he went downstairs to find that his sister, who had overheard some of that second argument (and certainly nothing about the texting) had told his other sister, her husband, and his parents. His parents told him that none of them could forget what they had overheard and I should leave.

Since then he has told it has to end. He won't even entertain the idea of trying to save it. Apparently he has been thinking about it for months as he was thinking about marriage and decided he wasn't 100% sure because I have said things in the past he can't forgive. He has often goaded me into an angry reaction and it has been noticed by friends. He has also said some pretty hurtful things himself. I thought this was just something that people did on rare occasions and they apologised and made it up etc. we really don't argue very often but he makes out that we do and every time it is horrific.

Whatever I have done, he won't even give me a chance to try to prove I can change it - at first he was adamant it was because it had happened too often and I shouldn't have ever hurt him but now it's become clear its also because his family won't accept me after those arguments. I don't think it's their business and I don't think they should ever have said anything to him at all about it so I am struggling.

We are now in separate rooms, he won't say he loves me and he is adamant it's over, he has even started telling people. I'm 28 and I thought u would marry him. It's the worst thing that has ever happened to me.

I'm terrified of losing him. Is there really no hope?

OP posts:
springydaffs · 03/01/2016 18:41

From what you've said the trouble started recently. Your 2 hour 'row' is par for the course in most relationships so I don't know what everyone is getting her up about on here. As you said it was whispered so not a full-on screaming match.

Imo he's rewriting history bcs he wants to be with xxxxxxx woma. Sorry op. He is a shot to do this to you. You deserve better - if he wanted to end it he could do it respectfully, not turn you into a banshee with his lies and gaslighting

springydaffs · 03/01/2016 18:42

He is a SHIT, to clarify

pocketsaviour · 03/01/2016 19:00

Wow, I disagree Springy (which is unusual because I agree with most of your posts!) - a 2hr row would not be par for the course in any healthy relationship I've ever been in. In fact the only one where I rowed like that was when I was very young and with a very horrible bloke.

I guess it does depend on your "arguing style" and how your family were about arguments, but I couldn't hack being with someone who I had frequent, long rows with. Especially at someone else's house. I would always just pack stuff away to discuss when we were at home.

OP I'm sorry and I know it's painful, but this relationship has died. Maybe he's trying to engineer a way out with the colleague or maybe not, but he has told you he wants out and he's told people around you. Whether he's being over-dramatic by telling you that you've made him go off and cry in the toilets or hurt himself, I don't know. If he's genuine, that's fucking awful TBH and I'd be mortified at the idea that I'd upset another human being to that point, let alone a partner. whatever the case, he is clearly unhappy with you and sadly there isn't anything you can do to change that.

HazelBite · 03/01/2016 19:55

You were extremely rude to your hosts to argue to the extent they could overhear.
You obviously don't like each other very much, what is the problem in calling it a day???
You are 28,( a mere child), put it down to experience, the relationship has run its course, if you have got to the stage of deliberately hurting one another.

fastdaytears · 03/01/2016 20:41

Your 2 hour 'row' is par for the course in most relationships

What? Really? God I feel like such a wuss now but there is no way I would be having 2 hour rows, much less one that involves me berating (the OP's description) my DP. Who wants to live like that. As for carrying on like that in someone else's house...

OP how are you doing today?

BooAvenue · 03/01/2016 20:46

I agree with Cabrinha

I think it depends what these "nasty things" you said to him actually are.

springydaffs · 03/01/2016 21:05

Heated discussions can go on for 2 hours, which is what this sounds like. Especially when one is a shit with an agenda.

AnnP1963 · 03/01/2016 22:57

OP I think you need to sit down calmly and wonder if this is for you. My youngest DD was in a relationship where , when things were good they were wonderful otherwise the arguments went on for a couple of hours too. She was getting so stressed out and so was we!!!! It's not nice sitting in your home and listening to someone else argue it is just horrible. I feel for his parents however much they like you he is their son and it must just be awful to listen to someone moaning at him for 2 hours!!!!!

I do however feel he has not been honest with you and this has obviously caused you distress and anger. You are 28 go out and have some fun take control of this ending, because unfortunately I think it will end. Be in charge and become strong. Do not let him put you down and dont rise to the bait and have another heated row. Be calm and count to 10 when you feel your blood boil. No lady deserves this, and you can hold your head up high and walk away. I can assure you he will feel unsettled and may even want you back. My darling this is scary but you can do it. Phone his parents and apologise for any distress you may have caused. Have a dry January and even raise some money! But I urge you to think is this what you really want because I think you will find out the true answer.
I wish you luck and love.
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