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Right, I really need to sort my life out

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3sleepingchildren · 25/12/2015 21:52

I am unhappily married. We are not particularly compatible, don't really agree on anything anymore. I want out, and have done for some time.

H doesn't. This is his second marriage, and he would do (just about) anything to avoid another divorce. So he doesn't agree that our marriage is over. Problem is, it's not that he wants to stay married to me, he just doesn't want a divorce.

We have 3 children. All disabled. I am not sure I could cope on my own. But I cannot continue the way we are.

We are away on holiday currently. Our children are small (under 10). He has 2 children from his first marriage, now adults. They are here with us (at my instigation - he didn't think of it). We agreed before we came away (and before my step children were invited) that we would be doing things at a pace our children could cope with (it's an activity holiday - activities suitable for children, but need adjustment for our 3, and they cannot manage a whole load of stuff all at once). When I suggested inviting my step children, I brought this up again, as I realise it is not above or style which might suit everyone. H agreed with me, at that point.

Now we are here, and my step children want to do loads more activities (fine) and want H to go with them. In their words 'it would be a shame to kiss this opportunity, and it would be nice to do this with dad'. Well, yes. Except managing 3x small disabled children on my own, on holiday in a strange place is a non-starter. And so it is t possible. This was talked through with H before we left. But now we are here, and he is in fabulous dad mode, and cannot day 'no'. So it is left to me to be the killjoy, to say no, it's not what we agreed. It's not what works. It just isn't possible. H gets in a strop with me, my step children think I'm a moody arse, and my dc are stressed because everyone around them is stressed.

Tonight, there was a Christmas dinner arranged at the resort. My youngest dc isn't well (nothing serious, but he's only 4, and tired out from excitement of holiday and Christmas, plus he a nasty cough). He fell asleep at 5pm, and I did t want to wake him to go out to the dinner. My middle dc wanted to go, and eldest didn't really want to go, but was a bit hungry. Didn't want took without me though.

I happily volunteered to stay behind with youngest (note H didn't. If I had asked - remember eldest didn't want to go out without me - I expect his solution would have been for us all to go, and I really didn't want to wake youngest up). Anyway, got two dc ready to go, and settled down.

H took them out, and I asked that he bring me back some food and drink. They get back, eldest is quiet and a bit upset (has learning difficulties, and I'm not sure what the issue is - will find out over he next few days as it unfolds/processes). No food or drink for me.

I get all 3 back to bed (them coming in had woken youngest, but not the biggest problem) and H then went straight back out to do an activity which we had planned to all do as a family tomorrow. Youngest overheard where he was going and got upset as wanted to do the activity. I tried to comfort and say we would still go tomorrow, and H said we won't have time (tomorrow is departure day). So upset children all round, and H had buffered off out to do it anyway.

Meaning he will be back late, won't pack, will probably end up sleeping in tomorrow (so guaranteed not to have time to do activity). He's just a selfish arse.

This so long already, but this so just a prime example of how things generally go. I do understand he would like to spend time with his older dc, but he is taking a week in January to do that, so it's not as though that never happens. This was always planned as a holiday for the smaller children, with the bigger ones more than welcome, but at the younger ones pace.

it is the end of the year. Next year needs to be different, but I am not sure if I can manage all the children's needs alone. But staying is not good for me. H disregards most things I say. He is crap with the dc in general (hence eldest coming back upset tonight) expect whe he is playing at being fun dad and spoiling them rotten (although this usually backfires and I end up picking up the pieces).

I can't keep on living this life, but I'm not sure that changing it would end up any better.

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LionHeartedWoman · 27/12/2015 21:09

It won't be as bad as you think. I think Grin Quantify the uncertainties and pace yourself. Time is your friend.

icandothis64 · 28/12/2015 09:25

What's wrong with maximising gains anyway? He too will benefit.

So sorry you are going through this.

3sleepingchildren · 28/12/2015 11:27

I just don't want to spend the rest of time with him banging on about how I took him for everything he had, made sure the house was renovated to highest spec and then kicked him out, and so on.

I know he would project all this - he is far more materialistic than me, and it all matters more to him. The biggest source of disagreement between us has been the fact that he thinks he needs to keep on pushing his career (top 2% earner) rather than taking a step back, downsizing our lives and spending time with the dc. Would make all our lives easier, but he doesn't want to. To then be blamed for wanting to maximise gains will leave a very sour taste, tbh.

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter at all, of course.

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LionHearty · 28/12/2015 19:33

Whatever you do he's going to have a complaint. He has not supported you when you and your children, which has resulted in you doing so much to make up his deficit. You've more than earnt any gains. Your dc deserve those gains. So...

Sod him!!

LionHearty · 28/12/2015 19:35

*He has not supported you when you and your children needed him,

My name may change my typos don't Grin

3sleepingchildren · 28/12/2015 21:05

Yes, whatever I do he will have a complaint.

He is being (or attempting to be) insufferably nice at the moment as we have guests. They go tomorrow, so I am anticipating his grumpiness resurfacing. He hasn't managed to contain it all - there was a hilarious point at lunch today (at a restaurant) where he tried to re-explain a trivia game which had been in the crackers. Apparently I hadn't explained it to everyone properly (in between settling dc1, sorting out all the drinks orders and choosing all the dc's meals). Oddly, dc2 (who loves a bit of cracker tat and trivia Grin) was managing to get by admirably on my apparently deficient instructions. So H blustered through with a 'well, if I could just explain it properly, as 3sleepingchildren hasn't understood it' and went on to tell everyone to do what they were already doing. One of the guests at lunch was my oldest friend, who turned to me open mouthed, said 'isn't that what you just said?!' in an incredulous tone, and then carried on playing with dc2. Obviously I had been meant to rise to his bluster (my main fault is not being able to bite my tongue, but I am making a huge effort otherwise we just snark and snipe all the time) as when I didn't react, H sulked for a bit before trying to take over my game of iSpy with dc1 (which backfired as he kept choosing words that dc1 couldn't possible guess rather than pitching it at her level).

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icandothis64 · 28/12/2015 23:08

That's hilarious.

3sleepingchildren · 29/12/2015 11:23

Somewhat predictably, as soon as our guests left this morning, H has shut himself away and is not interacting with any of us. Dc are understandably overexcited post Christmas, but it's all down to me. Having been at pains to help out when there were people here, now he once again is doing nothing, not even managing to put his breakfast dishes in the dishwasher. It's pathetic really.

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icandothis64 · 29/12/2015 12:39

Pathetic but at least not entirely unexpected. And at least you don't have to watch him huffing

3sleepingchildren · 29/12/2015 13:16

No, not unexpected at all. It would have been nice to have a hand with the dc- after all, he's off for a week and half soon enough. I've had dc1 in meltdown half the morning (post Christmas/guest de-stress) and dc3 being Velcro child as still feeling poorly.

And he's sat watching car reviews in peace in the sitting room.

But yes, I haven't had to watch him huffing about, which is a bonus.

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3sleepingchildren · 29/12/2015 23:53

FFS.

H has just come into the sitting room, and upon noticing the box full of mugs/shoppers/tea towels printed with dc2's design (we always get them for Grandparents/godparents/etc) asked why they weren't sent.

I calmly pointed out that I had sent/given out 'mine' (ie the ones for my friends/relations).

H went out for a couple of minutes, then came back into the room and asked 'I need to know whether you are working with me or against me, did you deliberately leave these unsent?'

WTF?

Quite apart from the fact that I don't even have the addresses for half the people he wanted to send stuff to (when I pointed that out he fell back to 'well, what about my parents?' - I haven't spoken to them for years, and, um, they're not my parents!) why on earth would it be my responsibility? I don't expect him to organise or send presents to my friends and family. I haven't sent his family cards/presents for years (I stopped doing 'his' half of stuff like that pretty swiftly, as I just don't need the extra work, tbh)

So he is once more in a strop with me, because I 'let' him forget to send Christmas presents to his family. Righto.

He has now, for the first time in months (if not longer) asked if there is anything I want/need washing as he is putting the machine on. I suspect he is trying to make a point about he 'works together' whereas I don't.

Whatever.

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icandothis64 · 30/12/2015 09:00

Deep breath!

3sleepingchildren · 30/12/2015 10:05

It's just all so petty. And he knows that the one thing that bothers me most is being accused of being petty - I hate playing games, I just don't have the energy for it.

He knows full well that I don't have the addresses. In 15 years together, I have never had the addresses. I have never taken on these 'duties', and so why he would assume that this year, when he had more time than any other Christmas, being at home full time, I wou,d do it is a complete mystery. Especially since I even talked to him about posting dates etc.

I know he's just trying to get me riled, so that I snap, then he can be justified in being the 'wronged'party. I really don't care, he can blame me all he wants, but I wish he would leave off the emotional bullshit, with all his 'just let me know if we are working together or against each other' crap.

There wasn't much working together when dc1's Statement review was due, nor is there over the transfer between Statement and EHCP. He hasn't read any of the school documents for years. That's something a bit more important to be working together on than whether his parents (who I am No Contact with, who have never even met youngest dc, and who he is low contact with) get their Christmas present on time.

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icandothis64 · 30/12/2015 10:29

You have got far more important things to worry about. I know it's hard but try and let this one go. From my experience a mans best form of defence is attack. Don't rise to it. He knows he is in the wrong but nothing you can say will convince him and ultimately it REALLY DOESN'T MATTER.

The jerry springer response is what's required here. "Yea, whatever".

3sleepingchildren · 30/12/2015 10:51

I am making a supreme effort to let things go.

Which is why he has ramped it up now, with the ridiculous patronising attempt at lunch the other day, ad now the accusation of me trying to make him look bad for not reminding him to send Christmas presents.

Apparently I was also wrong to not let him know his (adult) dd had not packed swimwear for our recent break. Quite how me telling him would have changed anything I have no idea (I found out in conversation at about 11pm, our flight was 6am followi g morning). But yes, 'whatever' is the perfect response.

He will keep on, and there will be times I snap back, but I am really trying hard to let it wash over me.

He is attempting to prove just how brilliant he is by always responding to dc3 while he is ill. So any noise whatsoever overnight means he rushes off to see what it up with him. I may have mentioned a couple of days ago that not every noise needs responding to, but this was ignored.

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icandothis64 · 30/12/2015 11:18

Great. Knock himself out. One less thing for you to get up for.
I know it's hard. Heres me dishing out the advice and yet I am the same as you. Sometimes you just have to snap back. Even though deep down you know all you really should do is take the high ground.

If your DH is anything like mine the behaviour goes in cycles. Can't do enough husband, constantly bitching and sniping husband, lovely husband (the one I thought I married), the silent one (ignores me for days on end as a punishment) or the feeling sorry for himself and staying in bed all day upset husband.

But it's like living on your nerves which one you are going to get at any encounter.

3sleepingchildren · 30/12/2015 11:34

Out of your list, I never have the 'can't do enough' husband. The lovely husband I married only appears if there are other people around. I often have the 'baffled and hurt as to why you are behaving this way' husband, which only serves to initiate even more!

But yes, from on day to the next, sometimes even one moment to the next, I've no idea whether a joke will be taken out of context as a dig, or whether advice will be seen as criticism. Eggshells all the way.

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