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Fuming with mum's boyfriend

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frillybiscuits · 27/11/2015 18:12

It's my mum's birthday today and she doesn't have many friends or family so it's never much of a celebration. I suggested taking her out for a meal and a drink with her boyfriend as it's a Friday night but he insisted on cooking for her.

When he picked me up I asked him if he had bought her a cake. He said no and was very blasé about the whole thing. I suggested we go to a shop and buy a nice one but he said he'd just throw one together. Money isn't tight so buying one wasn't a problem. Skip to an hour later and he's not got any flour for the cake so he goes to buy some. When my mum gets in from work, dinner isn't ready and there's this shitty sponge that's hollow in the middle sat there with no decorations. There's no bottle of fancy wine or chocolates or anything. I could see that my mum was upset and it's upset me too. We ate dinner in silence when it was ready, most of it was cold because he's not good at the timings of different foods.

He could have bought a nice cake and some alcohol from the shop when he went or could have let me buy her some. I feel I should have been more insistent on going out for dinner because he's done an awful job. I feel like he doesn't really care about her at the moment. I've said I'll get her a nice specially made cake tomorrow and take her out but it's not the same. I know she's going to be going to bed early tonight and crying herself to sleep thanks to his lack of effortSad

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frillybiscuits · 27/11/2015 18:48

I feel like I've posted in AIBU with all these commentsHmm. So you're telling me you'd be happy with that on your birthday and nothing from potential friends or family?

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goddessofsmallthings · 27/11/2015 18:50

She did say one thing about the cake which was 'you wouldn't dare give that to your mother would you'

This suggests that your dm is making comparisons between how her bf treats her and how he treats others, and I suggest you take her out for a slap up meal à deux at a fancy restuarant and either ask the staff to add a sparkler or small candle to her dessert, or give them a bought birthday cake which can be presented to her with an after dinner coffee/liqueur.

Out of curiousity, is the bf a live-in item or does he have his own home?

Nottodaythankyouorever · 27/11/2015 18:51

I feel like I've posted in AIBU with all these commentshmm. So you're telling me you'd be happy with that on your birthday and nothing from potential friends or family?

Actually if he had made an effort even if disasterous then yes I would

frillybiscuits · 27/11/2015 18:51

I'm going to take her out tomorrow just me and her to make up for it like I should have made happen in the first place. I kinda feel like it's my fault a little, I should have booked a table and got a cake myself so her boyfriend wouldn't have a choice. He did tell me he was going to buy one that's why I didn't bother but he clearly forgot. They own a house together. God I've never spoke so much about a damn cake Wink

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Sansoora · 27/11/2015 18:54

Frilly, you know for some people a birthday is no big deal whilst for others it is so answers will be based on that. So some will understand just where you are coming from whilst others wont and they'll think/voice all sorts of things.

And for what its worth my son who's severely autistic could have managed a cake without a sink hole in the middle so a Chef should have been more than capable of getting it right.

I think your mum is very much aware that her pretty lousy birthday is a indicative of a poor state of affairs all round.

ElderlyKoreanLady · 27/11/2015 18:54

I'd be happy that someone had put so much effort in, yes. But then I much prefer someone putting time into a gift rather than money.

He's not done what she'd prefer but I think it's wrong to say he's put no effort in. And surely your gift would mean your DM doesn't have nothing at all?

goddessofsmallthings · 27/11/2015 18:56

If money wasn't an issue, I'd be mightily pissed off with the offering the bf cobbled togther for your dm on her birthday.

Wtf didn't he book dinner at a favourite or upmarket restaurant for the two of them and what gift(s) did he buy her?

Cabrinha · 27/11/2015 19:02

OK, we all have different opinions on whether birthday cakes are better homemade-but-crap or perfect-but-bought.

But can we highlight the OP's later comment?
This man has form for sexting other women.

So - the cake with no icing is, well, the icing on the cake I expect.

I'd take her out tomorrow and let her talk. And hope to fuck she wanted to dump his disgusting cheating arse.

Bollocks to the cake.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 27/11/2015 19:04

frillybiscuits

re your comment:-

"I'm really not sure, she does seem a bit miserable. He has had a history of sending sexual messages to other women so I'm not sure if that is still going on. I don't see her much so don't see much of their dynamic".

Has your mother got a really rubbish dating history?.

What do you think of your mother's boyfriend?. What impression do you get of their relationship anyway?.

How long have they been together?. What has changed during the last year when he did make far more of an effort for her last birthday?.

Do you think that perhaps he is still sending such messages to women and
has he done that during their own relationship too?. This may also account for his lack of effort now when it has come to her birthday. It may be that their relationship has now really run its course but he is too cowardly to actually state he wants out now.

Do you think they are together really out of habit?.

Sansoora · 27/11/2015 19:04

I'd be happy that someone had put so much effort in, yes. But then I much prefer someone putting time into a gift rather than money.

I think you must be very easily please if you consider what he did as 'putting so much effort in'.

I think it was pretty piss poor but I do agree with you on how a gift doesn't have to have monetary value.

It really is the thought that counts and in this case there was next to no thought whatsoever.

ElderlyKoreanLady · 27/11/2015 19:07

Quick apology OP...I actually did think this was in AIBU! (I hate not having the app any more)

BrianButterfield · 27/11/2015 19:09

But the choices, cake wise, aren't only "homemade-but-crap" and "perfect-but-bought" - as he's a flicking CHEF he should be able to do homemade and good.

pictish · 27/11/2015 19:10

Since when do grown men need applauded for producing a toddler's effort?
Botching a sponge cake and cooking tea isn't effort.

I'm not a birthday person. I don't seek a fuss on mine. But ffs - if you're going to bother baking a birthday cake, at least try to make it seem like you give a single fuck about it.

"Here...have this lazy-arsed piece of shit I couldn't really be arsed making for you."

Pffft. I'd expect better from an adult.

ElderlyKoreanLady · 27/11/2015 19:11

But Sansoora, he did put far more effort I'm than he would have if he'd just bought one!

TBF to him, I enjoy baking and cooking but have produced some right flops in my time. If someone had been this ungrateful about it I'd have been really hurt.

But it does strike me that this thread isn't really about the cake or the meal, but rather that OP knows her mum isn't happy.

pictish · 27/11/2015 19:11

It really is the thought that counts and in this case there was next to no thought whatsoever.
Bingo.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 27/11/2015 19:17

Where is he supposedly being a chef?.

I think his crap cake effort is basically yet another unspoken way of telling his supposed beloved how little he actually thinks of her. Its disrespectful at the very least. Am certain as well he would have thrown a right wobbly if she had done the same for him.

And what about his previously sending sexual messages to other women?.
That is not at all acceptable either.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 27/11/2015 19:20

EKL,

re your comment:-
"he did put far more effort I'm than he would have if he'd just bought one"

You really think so?. You are too easily pleased, you would have felt sick if someone had actually made you a sponge like that for your own birthday and if not why not?.

No effort on his part was ever made, he was completely blasé about this lady's birthday.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 27/11/2015 19:21

Indeed I also see that you would not have appreciated such a cake either. So not effort on his part was ever really made.

ElderlyKoreanLady · 27/11/2015 19:26

Buying a cake takes 5 minutes. Making one takes a lot more time and effort, even for a crap cake.

I wouldn't say my standards are low, no. But I wouldn't hinge my enjoyment of my birthday on how good the cake and food was either. If this was a constant thing, OP would have known to buy a cake and book a table. She didn't so this must be a one off.

ohtheholidays · 27/11/2015 19:28

It doesn't sound like he made any bloody effort at all actually.

I know your going out tomorrow but is there any way you could take your Mum out for a few drinks and maybe the cinema tonight as well.
I think what your going to do for your Mum OP sounds lovely and I hope you both have a great time and I agree with you in the future ignore him and treat your Mum.

What with the messaging other women and then treating her like that on her birthday she'd be alot better of without him

pictish · 27/11/2015 19:31

A sponge cake is just about one of the easiest things to knock up there is. Really it is. And I'm not a chef.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 27/11/2015 19:42

EKL,

re your comment:-
"If this was a constant thing, OP would have known to buy a cake and book a table".

For all we know he may well have stated to her in advance that he was going to treat her. She may well have assumed this given what happened in past years. He made far more effort for her last birthday and the one before that too.

He made no effort at all this time around for whatever reasons and the end result is a crap cake. I would also think that if the shoe was on the other foot he would have been very angry with her.

Anyway none of this even goes anywhere near addressing the pertinent question of him previously sending sexual messages to other women.

kittybiscuits · 27/11/2015 21:38

What Attila said

inlectorecumbit · 27/11/2015 21:55

Why don't you take your mum out tomorrow for lunch and cake. Spend some quality time with her.
If she is miserable she might open up away from her BF.

MyMoneyIsAllSpent · 27/11/2015 22:08

Hey, wish your Mum a very happy birthday from me. :) I hope she has a lovely time with you. I would enjoy spending my birthday with my daughter more than with anyone else. Have a lovely time. Flowers and lots of Wine

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