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Advice please - I haven't a clue what to do

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Vinci74 · 24/11/2015 17:48

Hello, I've changed my username to ask for your advice. So sorry for long post for any advice would be very much appreciated. I am a mum of four, the three eldest have left home and the youngest is 13. My husband has always been fairly verbally volatile and his flare ups aren't as often as they used to be but they still happen. He stopped being physically violent ten years ago but he is still verbally very horrible when he is angry.

I daren't ever challenge him on anything as he just loses his temper and shouts and screams for an hour or two. For example, he has been a house husband for 13 years while I work full time, only getting a part time manual labouring job with a friend recently (casual basis.) While he does clean a bit in the week if he is at home all day and not doing any work, he expects me to deep clean all weekend (bathroom, kitchen, hoover, clothes, etc) and cook when I come home during the week and do all the shopping. If he ever does 'cook' (oven chips) he expects to be thanked and made a big fuss of and his 'cleaning' is very light - washing cups from night before. If I ask him to do more or do some DIY, he simply screams at me and calls me ungrateful. I end up doing all DIY or it doesn't get done. He says that all I ever do is bring him down, which isn't true. I hardly ever dare mention what he hasn't done and end up praising him for any minor thing he does.

On top of that, he gets moody and just acts like he hates me some months. He will mutter under his breath about me if I say leave a cup on the kitchen side or kick off if he say has to let the dog out of the back door, saying he is 'going to stab it' if it wants it one more time and that it's 'my f**in dog'. I hate having my child listening to this. It doesn't just happen when he is in a bad mood. That is all the time actually. everything he says is littered with foul language.

Last night I did say to him while I was cooking dinner and trying to talk on phone to my dd after her own bf had dumped her that he was selfish for not dealing with something that happened while I was doing this. Our son needed a lift but as I was too busy I had forgotten. My son would not ask his father for a lift as he would have gone mad at him and instead walked two miles in the freezing cold and rain when my husband knew. I felt so upset that I said he was selfish. I probably shouldn't have but that sent him into overdrive, saying I was a b*tch, etc., and that he was 'sick of my mouth', pointing at me aggressively and saying 'come and say it closer to my face you coward.' He told me to pack my bags and get out of the house. He then started screaming that I'd threatened him with a knife (I was chopping chicken in the kitchen) for benefit of listeners. I obviously hadn't done this but he makes things up. My son (eldest) was listening now having arrived in the middle of the row and so was 13 year old. They just looked sad as they have heard it all before but in a strange way they never comfort me when he has gone to our room in his temper (slamming doors and swearing at me.) In fact they both treated me as if I'd done something wrong after - not talking to me etc.

I have learned to just get on with things quietly and that he will eventually calm down. He eventually did and I slept in spare room. we have not spoken today. However, I think I have finally come to the end of my patience. I really hate him but don't want to show it as it will ruin the kids Xmas and I don't have anywhere to go. The kids all have tiny accommodation and I won't be able to see them all tgether if I go. Plus my 13 yr old and I are very close. I can't leave her.

The other thing is that I have a full time professional job and if people knew what I was going through I'd be so embarrassed. I earn quite a bit, but because he has not worked all this time we ran up a lot of debt and most of my wages go on that. He knows I won't leave kids and that I'm terrified of work finding out about him. I know they wouldn't be very understanding about having time off to sort it.

I've paid for everything all these years but he says he wants the house and me out when we row. He has kept all the money he has earned (for Xmas but makes me beg for it if I do spend anything on kids) so he could actually use that to get a flat and move out.

What should I do? Is it me? Should I just take it until daughter is 16 and then leave? Don't know if I can do this though. But where do I start otherwise? So confused. He is not rational at all so it's no good saying talk to him.

OP posts:
violette28 · 25/11/2015 18:05

Created this account to reply, as I was lying awake last night thinking about what I'd do in this situation, and wishing I'd said something earlier! Hope you are still reading this OP and it's better late than never.

You are already doing the right thing and incredibly brave to have taken the first step - voicing the fact that you're fed up with his behaviour and reaching out to someone outside the situation - and also doing so in a public forum like this. Wow. I appreciate the courage that took - if you can do that, you can take the next tiny step, and the one after, and the one after that.

Your relationship with him is already over. You just happen to still be living in the same house as him and being bullied and controlled by him. Extricating yourself won't be easy, but it will be the most worthwhile thing you ever do. The sooner you start, the sooner you'll be free.

Also, I'm sorry that the solid, considered advice of goddessofsmallthings came across as so insensitive. Given OP said you are the first people in 24 years I've told about this was the most helpful thing she could think of to say really you are going to need to grow a backbone and be willing to bite the bullet in order to belatedly give your dc the life they so desperately need and deserve? It was so brutal I actually gasped aloud.

You do need courage in order to act, true; but telling someone who's living in fear and whose confidence might be at its lowest ebb to 'grow a backbone' is unnecessarily nasty and verges on victim blaming.

It's natural to be lacking in courage: it's because it has been taken from you unfairly through years of being pushed around. You've endured enough of being told you're not good enough / done the wrong thing / said the wrong thing. Nuts to that. Take away his power over you by seeing him for the pathetic and ridiculous specimen he is.

I totally agree with the 'make a plan before you say anything to him' advice. Break it down into manageable bits? Do a bit of research one day, make a phone call the next day? You don't have to do everything at once. It might take you until after Christmas to be prepared enough (practically speaking - you might never feel totally ready to leave and it's important you don't put it off until that 'ideal moment' - that doesn't exist). But keep making progress and little by little, building a life for you and your children that is worthwhile and fulfilling and makes you glad to be alive.

In an abusive relationship, estranging you from family and friends is a classic move on the part of the abuser and might mean the people you're closest to are among your colleagues, in which case don't worry about seeming unprofessional - how silly. If there's someone you trust and won't be indiscreet about it, I would definitely confide in someone at work. You have NOTHING to be embarrassed or ashamed of. NOTHING. Abuse can happen to anyone and you may be surprised at how supportive people can be, even those who don't know you that well. It sounds like you have given so much to others in your life so far and you should be proud of that - don't feel bad about some good karma coming back to you!

Good luck in your journey towards freedom

RD82 · 25/11/2015 18:48

You husband is a monster. An utter, utter monster. Your relationship will be doing untold damage to your children and only you can change that.

Lots of good advice here. Please leave him.

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