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So anxious and wondering what is normal?

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CatzAndDogs · 23/11/2015 16:54

I don't know what I hope to acheive writing this, or even what I mean. My head is a mess and I'm sorry if this all comes out sounding stupid. I've been married 5 years, we have a 3yo son. I don't know whether I am being completely unreasonable, or what I need to do to make things better.
DH is very difficult to live with, and what makes it harder is there are many ups and downs. Often he will be funny and relaxed and we'll have fun with DS. But it often seems that just when I am feeling happy and relaxed he gets in a terrible mood. Comes from nowhere - I do or say the wrong thing. last night it was because I asked him why he had to nap in the afternoon after he got up late in the morning. Ended with DH screaming at me, telling me I was an idiot, selfish, that i don't understand him. The other week he said he was never going to talk to me about anything that upset him, ever again, becuase I was such a "bad listener". he said he was going to find someone else to talk to becaus he can't even rely on his wife to support him.
Most arguments start because I say something wrong but I don't realise it is wrong at the time. Like saying "what?" because I don't hear what he says. Or because I disagaree with him about something simple like whethre DS should wear a jumper or not. It often ends with his shouting, telling me to fuck off, him storming out of the house, throwing things, DS crying. I try to talk to him and calm him down but he tells me he is not talking to me and will not talk to me and if I continue talking he will not be responsible for what happens. Usually after these outbursts he sleeps alone in the other room, and the next day he is cold and distant. I feel guilty and can't focus. Then he comes round adn everything is normal again. No apologies for the swearing or throwing. I have given up wanting one of those. And it is always always my fault.
I spend hours trying to figure out what went wrong, and what I could do to make things better. I feel so anxious after these fights, which happen like once a week or once a fortnight. But then I think that I am making too much of it, and that everyone fights in a relationship sometimes and really I shouldn't argue with him.
I feel that everythign is fine if I agree with him all the time and try not to annoy him. I know it is in my power to feel better about myself and not be so affected by his moods but it is hard. When he is not being angry at me he is often angry about everything else - complaining, swearing when he drops things, shouting at the TV and otehr drivers etc. I am actually jumping out of my skin sometimes when I hear him shouting at something in the kitchen. it drags me down.
He is depressed, he says, and I beleive that is true. So it makes me feel bad that somehow I cannot be the person he needs me to be to help him through. I can't understand what to do to make things better. I seem to be going through these cycles so often that I am losing my mind. Worse, worse still, better, OK, worse..... what is normal and what is not?

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RedMapleLeaf · 08/12/2015 06:57

His behaviour may begin to make more sense if you read up on "cycle of abuse".

CatzAndDogs · 21/12/2015 22:15

I am increasingly confused and getting more stressed by the day. Lately it seems he will completely forget about what happened within a few hours - before it wasn't like this. Before when there was an argument or an incident he would not talk to me for days or something, so at the moment I am expecting that only to have him act like nothing at all has happened when he gets home from work, or even just a few moments later. No apologies, no comments, no nothing. Like it didn't even happen. So I'm wondering, did it?

Like today. This morning he accused me of being a spoilt brat, how dare I compare my tiredness to his when he is medicated and has anxiety? He told me our relationship was going to hell because I deliberately made trouble by telling him I was tired too after a bad night with our son waking up lots. I laid a guilt trip on him for him going back to bed. He started to throw things around, I told him not to, he squared up to me and it was the first time I felt phsyically afraid of him, just for a moment. He went back to bed and when he woke up it was like nothing at all had happened. I felt relieved and to keep the peace I also acted like nothing had happened but I also felt really shaken up.

I feel like maybe it wasn't that bad, because he doesn't seem to think it is. But I am scared. Scared of feeling so confused and so low. It is the first real time I am beginning to seriously think about leaving. But then I wonder, am I imagining it all? To hear him speak, it is me abusing him.

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Jollyphonics · 21/12/2015 22:22

It's him who's abusive OP, not you. He sounds awful, and it must be horrible and damaging for your son to witness this. I think leaving him is the only option really.

CatzAndDogs · 21/12/2015 22:40

I guess I am, weirdly, waiting for something "really bad" to happen, so that I can justify leaving. That sounds horrible beacuse it's like I want him to do something bad but the realityis I don't see how I can have the strength to leave if part of me is always thinking, but was it really that bad? I know that other people have things so much worse.

And perhaps I am being selfish - perhaps I just want to leave to get away on my own with my son and not have to deal with someone else's moods, to live in a place where I feel comfortable, to be nearer friends, to be in a house where I feel like it is my own. Perhaps if me and my husband could move to a nicer place, to somwhere I got easily get out and meet friends, maybe we would be happoer and I would not have to leave. Does that make sense? I feel like I would be so selfish to leave without trying to make a better life for me and him.

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OhBeloved · 21/12/2015 23:45

You need to educate yourself about domestic abuse OP - particularly emotional abuse. Feeling so confused is very common when you are subject to ea.

Read Lundy Bancroft's Why Does He Do That?: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men

Find out what support there is for you in the country you're in.

CatzAndDogs · 22/12/2015 21:39

I've been reading a lot about emotional abuse and am thinking a lot about the relationship and when I read the article and the checklists I think yes, yes, yes, he does that, he does exactly that, and it certainy looks like abuse. When it's happening. But my problem right now is how to go forward.

When something horrible happens I feel angry and upset and scared and start planning to leave - I start thinking of how I am going to do it, and planning exactly what I am going to do. But fear takes over and I don't act. Then things calm down and I feel so relieved, and I really am wishing that I imagined it all, and I feel guilty for making those plans even when I know what he is like and what is happening here. So I don't leave. I put the plans on hold. Until the next incident when it happens again...

How do you break the cycle? What does it take to get the clarity to move on? I am thinking so much about this but really I am in the same place I always have been.

I am seeing a therapist and she encourages me to try and work through issues with him by settign boundaries and working on my self esteem but she says that it is only a short-term fix and that he has to want to change adn to actually change if things are going to get better. I haven't spoken to her that I feel like it is abuse but maybe I should.

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