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How to let go of a possible Wendy situation

19 replies

BerylStreep · 10/11/2015 22:09

I don't really know where to start explaining this, but I have such strong negative feelings towards someone, and I recognise that I need to let it go. This may be a bit long, so I apologise in advance, although it will probably be quite cathartic to get it out.

DD had a friend at school who she had been 'BFFs' with since Year 1. I didn't necessarily encourage it, but they were into the same things and everything seemed great. I became friendly with the BFF's parents, and I would see them in group situations with other parents who were friends of ours, or on our own - I would sometimes go out walking with the Mum in an effort to keep fit.

Last year I noticed that we had been seeing a lot less of the BFF, and the Mum hadn't responded to a few of my texts suggesting going for a walk, however that in itself wasn't that unusual as she was very unreliable. At Christmas last year my DD, then 9, broke down in tears and I discovered that the BFF had been bullying my DD for months. Lots of moodiness, yelling at DD for no reason, deliberately excluding her from activities and making a huge point of favouring others. I found a few diary entries my DD had written and I felt absolutely dreadful for her. I spoke to her teacher about it, and she was sympathetic, but her main advice was just to stick to the other friends who DD had (and thankfully she had quite a few other friends). I had no contact with the Mum, other than a superficial hello at the gates, which to be honest I was fine with.

So in May this year the Mum contacted me and asked me out for coffee. I was surprised, but agreed, although when we met it was absolutely surreal. The Mum had said she would pick me up - she was over an hour late. When she was parking the car her mobile rang, and she asked if I would answer it, and said 'Just say you are my PA'. I was Hmm and of course didn't say that. During coffee she was really negative about anything I said, for example, we were in the process of buying a house, and she was very derogatory about it. She then proceeded to make several longwinded calls to her DH and her other DD whilst we were having coffee, which I thought was really rude, but for the sake of niceties I didn't make a big deal over. On the way back from coffee, rather than dropping me off directly, she then made three stops at different properties that she is developing / renting out. She made a massive point of giving the plasterers a complete bollocking in front of me, stopped to get a tenant to sign some form, and drove me to yet another property. Throughout all of this I was saying things like 'I really must get back, I have lots to do' (and I did - I only get one day off during the week, and the time is precious to me). When we finally pulled up outside my house, the Mum then turned to me and said 'I know what happened between the girls' I was 'oh?' and the Mum then started to do a complete character assassination of my DD and told me she had brought it all on herself. There were plenty of things I could have said about her DD, but I was so shocked by what I was hearing, and I didn't want to make it into a tit for tat argument, so just made my excuses and left. I feel as if I was really spineless in not pulling her up on her behaviour or what she was saying.

I felt absolutely awful about the whole encounter, and the feeling I had was that the Mum had made a point of trying to demean me by being rude to me, wasting my time and trying to big herself up by making out she was some sort of property magnate. I spoke to a close friend about it, and she was wonderfully to the point and said that she always knew the Mum was a complete fucking oddball. My DH said he had always thought she was manipulative and divisive, and when I think back on things, she was always someone who had a horrible word to say about everyone, and thrived on nasty gossip.

The former BFF continued her bullying campaign during the summer (at summer camp) and into this term. I spoke to DD's current teacher who has been amazing and has dealt with the issue - has placed the former BFF on probation because of it. But this has also brought things to a head with the Mum. I'm not sure what, if anything has been said by the school, but I am quite sure the former BFF will have cast herself as the victim and gone home with a tale of woe. A few weeks ago the Mum had a go at me at the school gate, and made reference to personal information that she could only have got from a mutual friend. Although I was calm but assertive in the face of it, I now feel sick every time I pick up DD. The Mum is very overbearing, and a lot of people think she is quite funny as a result of it, but having seen what she has been like, especially in condoning her daughter's bullying behaviour, all I see is a manipulative bully.

There are mutual friends, and I have a feeling the Mum has been bad-mouthing me, and although I would love to say something to the mutual friends, even if just to say 'look, things aren't great, I'd be grateful if you didn't discuss me with X', something holds me back. The other thing that really sticks in my throat is that now the Mum is really pally with other parents who I know she has spent the last 6 years making bitchy comments about them at every opportunity.

I know this is trifling in the scheme of things. I have been off work for a while due to illness and I recognise that in the absence of work stimulating my mind, this is perhaps why this is annoying me so much. (The good news is that I go back to work tomorrow!)

So, if you have managed to make it to the end of this - have you any words of wisdom as to how I can teach myself not to give a shit about it? DD is in Year 6, and I am hoping against hope that the other child won't go to the same school for year 7. I am quite literally counting down the weeks to the end of the school year so that I don't have to have anything to do with this woman.

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Atenco · 10/11/2015 22:22

Sorry, no words of advice, but it is obvious that the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

m0therofdragons · 10/11/2015 23:00

Other mums will see through it. They will. I think you have to hold your head high and fake smile at the gates for your dd and also your own sanity. In my experience these things come to a head on their own and they do get their comeuppance.
It's still crap but sadly some people get their kicks pushing others down - don't let her see it's working. In fact great her with over enthusiasm. If she steps over the line and says anything just tilt your head and say "oh, do you really think so? That surprises me. " then walk off. It will leave her confused as to what you mean and drive her nuts.

SoleBizzzz · 10/11/2015 23:10

What a petty fucking freak.

SoleBizzzz · 10/11/2015 23:11

I am afraid I couldn't keep my trap shut. knock her block off

springydaffs · 10/11/2015 23:16

I don't think this is technically a Wendy situation bcs she's blatantly a bitch. Wendy's slither in looking sweetness and light, butter wouldn't melt Hmm

So sorry to hear poor dd has been through this but delighted to hear she is in yr6 and the whole nightmare could be coming to an end. I do so hope so

Hold your head up, you have nothing to be cowed about. I'd be saying, starring decisively, to people, if pushed, 'things aren't as they seem' or words to that effect.

It's hard when a wrecker comes across our path but hold on. You've a year to get through - or dd has a year to get through, but it looks like she's getting appropriate support. I also wouldn't fight shy of mentioning you are being similarly intimidated by the mother to give context if it comes up.

(I do feel for you in that car! There are some wackos about)

wickedwaterwitch · 10/11/2015 23:16

Year 6 is a pita

She sounds vile - ignore, smile and wave and the time will pass

Encourage other friendships, keep teacher informed

Good luck

springydaffs · 10/11/2015 23:17

*stating decisively

bjrce · 10/11/2015 23:26

She doesn't sound right in the head!
She sounds like she's got too much time on her hands.

To be honest, as I read your thread I was surprised you had agreed to meet her for coffee, somehow I just knew it wouldn't end well. Didn't your gut instinct cut in when she contacted you?

The whole point of the "coffee morning" was to undermine you.

Best thing to do is ignore, ignore, ignore. Continue to strengthen your own child's self-esteem.
People like that are only happy when they have a drama going on.

PowerPantsRule · 10/11/2015 23:35

What a bloody nightmare. Just wanted to extend my sympathies. Encourage the other friends. Ignore her. Don't engage, don't smile at her, or catch her eye. And try to perhaps have a word with one of the other mums to say you've been legged over by her?

BerylStreep · 10/11/2015 23:36

yes, I did think the offer for coffee was odd, but it seemed churlish to say no. I wish to goodness now that I had said no.

The Mum is going hell for leather in cultivating friendships for her DD and for herself. I just feel like rolling my eyes when I see her fawning over a parent who I know she has consistently and loudly told anyone who would listen that she suspects the mother to be an alcoholic as she smelt drink from her breath in the morning. She may well have alcohol dependency issues, but I was always quick to point out that I hoped she wasn't smelling my breath in the mornings!

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Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 10/11/2015 23:42

Ignore her. Only speak to school. Tell DD not to be mean back. Maybe a few have you noticed Bully is mean to me?
The thing with bullying, as a parent, is that you feel you have no control, it makes you doubt your own child. It takes over your thoughts.
School appear to be amazing, they listened and dealt with it.
DD bully bit her so hard (for no reason) and was excluded for 3 days, cue bully mom tears, and it didnt happen. Bully has no friends in high school, she mopes about moaning everyone is horried to her, reap what you sow.
Let DD stay kind, friendly, do not let her say anything tjat will bite her on the bum and give bully ammunition later.
Keep talking.
Ignore bitchface.

anothernumberone · 10/11/2015 23:44

I think you need to step back from it. You handled the second less of a surprise attack very well so just be content with that. There are plenty of people like her it the world. Just don't give her any of your headspace and keep the focus solely on managing the situation with your daughter. I would not get into conversations with other parents about her, that is a general rule of mine for school gate parents.

Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 10/11/2015 23:45

FwIW a dear friend takes medication which smells of alcohol..

amarmai · 11/11/2015 00:34

the thing to tell a child being bullied is watch and you will see someone else being bullied by that same person. Then the next step is to ally with others and call out the bully . They hate to deal with more than 1 victim at a time. Wait for the chance to drop in the ear of the person most likely to spread gossip, that bully mum has been bad mouthing several of them. What goes around , comes around. but help it on its rounds ,i say.

tallwivglasses · 11/11/2015 01:09

Good advice from amarmai there

BerylStreep · 11/11/2015 15:32

Thanks all, getting some objective thoughts on what her behaviour was like has really helped. bjrce you are right, the whole purpose of the coffee was to put me down in as many ways as possible.

There are loads of other things too, such as saying 'you missed a brilliant night at

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tornandhurt · 11/11/2015 15:52

OP - I went through a very similar situation with my eldest a few years ago - I have 3 - DD15, DD9 and DS4.

The way you've handled it thus far is absolutely spot on. Keep dignified and just smile and laugh. Truth be known others are finding her "funny" because they're too scared they might be on the receiving end of it next time.

Honestly just keep thinking, that big school is around the corner where this bully will all of a sudden be a very small fish in a big pond, and with her attitude she'll soon be put in her place.

Focus on supporting your DD and maintain regular contact with the school. I know as a mum it hurts like hell to see your child go through this. Wishing you all the best xx

pocketsaviour · 11/11/2015 16:12

Personally I've found the only way to deal with bullies like this (the mum, not the child) is to confront them very very aggressively assertively. Every time I have done this, they have cringed like a fawning dog and either tried very hard to kiss my arse, or just removed themselves from my life, which is the preferable result.

I know this isn't everyone's style though. If you feel you can rise above it, then more power to you.

deste · 11/11/2015 20:49

We had he same but my DD and her DD got on really well together. It was the mum who went to the school to say she didn't want the girls in the same class, as mine was a bully and didn't let hers think for herself. The teacher watched them for a week or so and came to the conclusion it was her DD that latched on to mine as mine was not that bothered especially if they had to get into pairs etc.

It was the teacher who thought I should know what the mum was up to.

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