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What would you do ?

11 replies

ifyouregoingthroughhell · 06/11/2015 18:56

I have just left a long term relationship. This was a long time coming. I knew I was very lonely and unhappy, but, until he had gone, and I found MN, I had no idea I had suffered EA on a grand scale.
I had never met a man like him before, controlling and bullying one minute, crying and begging next, mind games, manipulation, sometimes all in one sentence ! The suicide attempts were the breaking point.
I thought he was a one off until I came on here.
I knew it wasn't normal, but thought it was just how he was.
When he left ( forced), I went into shock. The intense nature of our relationship, and me constantly trying to block his next game, left me completely lost. I couldn't stop crying ( which I never do ), I couldn't eat, sleep or make any sense of anything.
My head was pounding all the time, and I couldn't even explain which emotion I was feeling at any one time.
He disappeared under a rock, and so I went from a barrage of mind games, constant babbling, phone calls and orchestrated (attention seeking) crisis to absolutely nothing. Silence.
Then I found MN and I'm still here. I lurked on threads and learnt an awful lot. The biggest lesson was seeing how often this seems to happen. Exactly the same pattern. Also learning that getting over this sort of relationship takes a very long time. Progress is slower than most RL people expect it to be. And I have to look after myself.
Hence my question.
My brother phoned today. Not spoken to him since it happened, but not really surprised by that. I initially thought he had phoned to see how I was. However, the conversation soon turned round to
" What's this about your not doing Christmas ?"
I always do Christmas. Ten people Christmas day, same again Boxing Day, and, in the past, family party between Christmas and New Year.
My family are not local, so everyone descends for a week at least. I have enjoyed this in the past, but it is extremely expensive and very hard work.
I told my DM last week that I am not doing it this year. She seemed accepting and understanding, but now I feel my brother is bullying me and black mailing me.
He said I was being unfair, not letting him and my parents see the family over Christmas. I told him I'm not, but just not here. I tried to explain I have had panic attacks just attempting to buy a loaf ! The thought of planning and shopping for so many feels impossible, and I'm not able to host and paste a smile on so I don't ruin everyone's Christmas.
I have never fallen out with him in my life, and he has never cooked a Christmas dinner.
I imagine other posters have had similar expectations placed upon them during such a difficult period of their lives, and just wondered how you all dealt with it ?

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molyholy · 06/11/2015 20:03

Tell him you have had years of being bullied by your ex and you will not accept being bullied by him. Easier said than done I know, but you have found the strength to leave an abusive realtiinship and tgat was very brave and strong of you. Grab hold of the emotion you felt when you finally decided to leave your ea ex and find it to tell your brother to do one. Tell him you are going through an extremely tough time and you need his support. Could he host christmas and you will help him with food prep etc. Don't replace one bully for another. Stay strong Flowers

Lacoba66 · 06/11/2015 20:32

Three possible options OP.

  1. You keep to what you wish to do.
  2. You tell him, if he wants X as at yours, then he can do all the organising and preparing ( your home, but pretend it's not)
  3. He sorts it and invites you, but if your not up for it then you politely refuse the invite.

Christmas is stressful enough for most people anyway, with this added pressure on you.

Anyway, your DM has accepted it, so that's what/ most matters (in my book anyway).

Have a peaceful time.

timelytess · 06/11/2015 20:34

He's being ridiculous, stick to your guns. "It's someone else's turn this year."

RandomMess · 06/11/2015 20:39

"I'm not well enough to host anything at the moment, let alone Christmas" repeat.

Topseyt · 06/11/2015 21:03

Is he incapable of hosting Christmas this year, or at all?

Surely it doesn't all have to be down to you?

ifyouregoingthroughhell · 06/11/2015 21:33

He is in his 40's and has never left home. He shops for presents on xmas eve and has only recently learnt to wrap them himself. He finds this stressful !It's all he has to do. No food shopping, no bed changing, no prep, no cooking, no clearing up or putting away.
What I have spent every year on food and drink at xmas equates to 3 months board for him at home.
There is absolutely no chance of him " doing" xmas. He is on holiday !
No understanding at all. I am being made to feel selfish.
Although I thought my mother had some understanding, she has obviously been complaining to him about not seeing everyone at xmas, he has then phoned me.
They have a very conservative life, and whilst they are being supportive in their eyes, emotionally they do not understand what I have been / am still going through.

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ifyouregoingthroughhell · 06/11/2015 21:45

Molyholy- I have tried to explain the bullying and controlling behaviours of my ex and how it has affected me. Brother's response was " You know he has always been childish, why did you expect him to be any different after you split up ? "
He has no concept whatsoever of the effect the continued intimidation and mind games by my ex are having on me. Just ignore.
I have always accepted my brother is self centred, but never considered him selfish. Until now.

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MissApple · 06/11/2015 22:29

What molyholy says, but yes it is difficult. You have to think of yourself as having an illness if you see what I mean, and in some ways you do need to be healed. If you told the family you had cancer, they wouldnt be putting the pressure on you would they??

AskBasil · 06/11/2015 22:37

Even if you were feeling 100% happy and cheerful and competent and well and marvellous, it is not your responsibility to do Christmas.

If your brother wants a family christmas, tell him to organise it and do it.

Alternatively, he can organise for you all to go to a restaurant.

You've done it for 10 years. It's his turn.

Keep saying :"I've done it for the last 10 years. It's your turn."

Every time anyone else asks you, say "I've done it for the last 10 years. It's not my turn".

You are not selfish, they are.

Remember that.

ifyouregoingthroughhell · 07/11/2015 08:29

Thanks everyone. The family live miles away so usually they all arrive and stay for a week. It's not just xmas day. It's the beds, the washing, breakfast ,lunch endless cups of tea. It wears me out every year, but I also enjoy it. I just can't do it this year, physically or mentally.
They are the pull yourself together and get over it now brigade.
I will stick to my guns though. I will not be bullied again.

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binkiesandpopcorns · 07/11/2015 14:54

They are the pull yourself together and get over it now brigade

Great. So THEY can pull THEMSELVES together and get on with doing Christmas

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