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DP lies and then blames me when I confront him. Feel emotionally drained.

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wesweet · 18/10/2015 11:48

I've started to feel so confused, angry and frustrated with my DP, and I can't tell if it is justified.

I'm 27 and he's 38. We've been together 2 years and rent a house. I love him very much and he's helped make our place so homely and warm and he makes me laugh and does nice things for me...does his fair share of cleaning and all the cooking.

BUT.. and it's become a huge but..he lies. Each time he does this, he turns the blame onto me and says he has lied 'because of how I would react.' How does he even know how I would react if he never actually tells me?! And of course I am always more upset about the lie, in most cases.

The biggest things - most recent example was last night. We are meant to be saving to buy a house together, and last night I read a text from his mum that asked how a viewing went for a flat (the message came up on the coffee table and he was there). I asked what is was about and he eventually told me he had been looking at places to buy on his own as his mum had told him it was too soon to buy with me. I asked why he didnt tell me she had said that or why he didnt suggest we wait (rather than us buying separately sooner). He then said his mum had suggested moving in with him but he told her that was a definite no. I was horrified. He told me he hadn't told me because "of how I would react."

Other examples include lying about a bonus he had (I don't even know why he felt the need to lie...not sure what was to be gained by lying), lied about how much annual leave he had elft from work (again I don't know why), lied about a holiday he planned to go on with his dad without me..only told me when I got upset because he didnt want to plan a holiday with me (turns out it was a cost problem...i would have understood if he had just told me!).

Whenever we fall out it is because he has lied. I have said to him that sometimes things he tells me will upset me, but i need to know because that's what a relationship is, and otherwise we are living a false life with one another and we cant have a future. I've also told him that the actual lie is what makes it so much worse. Initially he will tell me it's my fault because 'he didnt want to upset me or lose me,' and then he'll apologise and we'll start again...only for him to do it all over again.

I feel emotionally drained and also feel guilty, but I can't work out why because although of course I have emotions and react to things..,I always always do my best for me and DP and if, for example, he'd told me he wanted to hold off buying a house for another year, then yes i would cry and i would be confused...but we'd talk and i would be an adult and we'd move forwards. I'm not a child and I love and respect him, and his opinions and decisions - he knows this. How many times do I need to have this conversation for him to stop lying?

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Ginkypig · 18/10/2015 12:32

Hi wes

I'm sorry to add more of the same but

That type of lying is very serious and damaging.

He is telling you lies about big things

Holidays both how much he has and going away, money, massive housing lies.

Can you imagine 10 years from now when you may (just one example you may not) have taken a big pay cut to look after kids and would rely on him during that time. He's telling you he has no money or no time leaving you to do it all and go without to keep the kids fed when actually he is swanning around with thousands in the bank and two or weeks secret holiday a year! In a house you don't own because he refused to buy with you!

Also the house thing means you have been saving the wrong amount for two years because of him you need to be saving for a single deposit but he has led you to believe you can save half what you need as he is going in on the other half. So what he has done is double how long you now need to wait before you can buy.

He's a prick I'm sorry I really am I know you love him but he is

Lweji · 18/10/2015 12:33

He lies.
For all you know all that perfect stuff could also be a lie. As his tears and saying he can't live without you. Lies.

Your relationship is fundamentally wrong if you can't trust him. Never mind laughter and a nice home.

ThatsNotMyRabbit · 18/10/2015 12:36

If you haven't posted about this before there's someone on here with the EXACT same problem. I mean exact.

Patchworkrainbow123 · 18/10/2015 12:43

I was with a man like this, sadly wasting 13 years of my life. Like your partner he lied about literally anything and everything. He lied about small trivial things and huge life changing things. Lying was just what he did, it was as much of his personality as other traits like kindness and humor.

I think in the end he actually believed his own lies. Like you we would fight about it, I would explain how lying made me feel, he would apologise and promise never to lie again until he did.

He completely destroyed my trust and at times I felt like I was going mad. Often he would carry on lying despite it being blatantly obvious and I felt like I was loosing the plot.

He never changed, I think even if he had wanted to he couldn't have done it. Lying was just part of who he was.

wesweet · 18/10/2015 12:44

thanks everyone.

I nearly ended it yesterday based on this. Today will be the day. Already feel relieved!

He is a prick. He might do some things right but if you cant get the basic problems right then whats the effing point.

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wesweet · 18/10/2015 12:47

patchwork thanks for your reply. a few weeks ago DP actually broke down and said 'i have a problem i can't stop lying!" it was horrifying to hear. whatever his motive was for saying it (i'm not blind to the fact he may have been saying it to further manipulate me), it's still hugely f-cked up.

i'm not perfect but i know that trust and honesty and respect are key to a relationship and can manage those 3 things!

i also felt like i was going mad... couldnt remember what conversations we had had because he would 'forget,' and so on.

i feel drained.

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MrsCorbyn · 18/10/2015 12:58

Can you live like this long term with no trust ? I know I couldn't. You need to be able to trust to feel safe and without that no other 'perfect' attributes matter

Ginkypig · 18/10/2015 13:08

You are worth more than this wes.

There are partners out there who will not do this to you.

I wish you luck you deserve an equal partner who puts you at the top of his priorities, not someone who doesn't respect you enough to even tell you the truth about the basics in (your shared) life.

GoldfishCrackers · 18/10/2015 13:20

You're doing the right thing. A breakup now will be painful, but better than feeling confused and hurt for years. The lies are about him building a future without you, but pretending to do the opposite so that you'll stay with him. That shows such a profound lack of respect for you and your needs, it's worrying. You don't know what else he's lying about and therefore whether all the other 'perfect' bits are so perfect. Flowers

My ex started out like this and eventually I stopped caring about the lies as the abuse became the most important thing. He dropped the facade and used other ways to manipulate and control me. If you don't know who he even is, there's no future.

Paddletonio · 18/10/2015 13:29

I'd dump and move on. Can't abide a liar. Also the willingness to listen to his mother over you does not bode well nor wanting to buy separately.

ShebaShimmyShake · 18/10/2015 13:32

He's 28 and being directed by his mother on house buying plans? And by his father on holidays?

Do they come round and burp him after every meal?

Oysterbabe · 18/10/2015 14:48

He's a manchild. It'd be worth running away because he's a mummy's boy if nothing else.

Lweji · 18/10/2015 14:56

'i have a problem i can't stop lying!"

That sounds like a lie as well.

Of course he can stop lying, if he wants to.

TRexingInAsda · 18/10/2015 15:05

It's not just the lies - who starts looking for a fucking house to buy on their own without telling their partner? He has no respect for you and he's a lying, unreliable, draining, annoying mummy's boy. You will be well rid.

DiscoDiva70 · 18/10/2015 15:13

I'm sure I've also read an almost identical thread to this recently Hmm

cozietoesie · 18/10/2015 15:19

I'm afraid that there are, sadly, a lot of liars around, Disco.

The lies you've posted about are only the ones you know about, we. Who knows what else he's neglected to tell you about.

I'd split from him directly.

Robotgirl · 18/10/2015 15:30

He sounds like my ex. He lied all the time but was soooo damn charming. It was kind of like he got a buzz from 'getting away with it'...
He was always lying about what time he'd be home/arriving somewhere... Used to leave London at 12pm & tell his mum he'd be in North Wales by 1pm. During rush hour. Confused

Imgivinguponyou · 18/10/2015 15:38

If you're not the same poster, then you have the same problem ie a man planning a life with his mother behind his partner's back. Or a man allowing his mother to call the shots.

He's lying to you about his mother and he's probably lying to his mother about you.

He is a secretive devious cowardly mummy's boy.

scatterthenuns · 18/10/2015 15:40

Wishing you the best Wesweet. Make sure he knows exactly why you've had enough.

I think you're fantastic btw. It takes plenty of personal strength to leave, and you sound like you've got heaps of the stuff.

Jeffreythegiraffe · 18/10/2015 16:41

Good luck op! How did it go? You're doing the right thing.

AyeAmarok · 18/10/2015 18:34

Definitely doing the right thing. You don't want to be with someone who constantly lies, that way madness lies.

wesweet · 18/10/2015 18:37

I did it.

His response:

crying hysterically. half an hour later, i find him messaging a mutual friend, a woman, and telling her that i'm crazy and 'was demanding too much from him.'

wow.

Now just to actually move out. still feel relieved though!!

thank you everyone.

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Robotgirl · 18/10/2015 18:48

Bloody brilliant. Well done OP Wine

LemonRedwood · 18/10/2015 18:59

Well done wesweet.

You will be much better off without him Wine

loveyoutothemoon · 18/10/2015 19:22

Well done :)

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