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Who is at fault, in your opinion?

18 replies

ciele · 17/10/2015 21:59

Husband has drunk two bottles of wine in two nights. I laughingly called him an alcoholic. He stomped off to bed. Is he? Am I in the wrong to be so insensitive?

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loveyoutothemoon · 17/10/2015 22:06

Not if it's just two nights, if it's on a regular basis then maybe. What's he like without it? You've posted here so you must think he has a problem.

ciele · 17/10/2015 22:10

Without he's a misery.
If he drinks alone he's a misery.
If he's in company he is genial!

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ciele · 17/10/2015 22:11

i just think his reaction tells me something ...

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ARV1981 · 17/10/2015 22:13

I don't think it's a case of if you drink x amount of alcohol you're an alcoholic, but rather the way alcohol affects you.

If your dh "needs" alcohol to "function" then he probably is an alcoholic, but if he just fancied wine two nights in a row (although the quantities are excessive here) then he may have a drinking problem but is probably not an alcoholic.

Alcoholism is a disease, having a problem with drink isn't. In either case, it can be very difficult for the people around the person affected - I should know, I was in a (abusive) relationship with an alcoholic for nearly ten years, and it's utterly miserable.

His GP will be able to help, but only if your dh is willing to accept it.

PurpleDaisies · 17/10/2015 22:14

Maybe you've touched a nerve? Is anyone he knows an alcoholic?

Is this out of character for him or does he often stomp off? It is difficult to say who is out of order without more details.

ARV1981 · 17/10/2015 22:14

Cross post... I suggest he sees his GP.

ciele · 17/10/2015 22:25

I have misused the term alcoholic but as you can probably guess the relationship is fraught. We miscommunicate and are totally incompatible. He has low self esteem, we sleep in separate rooms but I am financially reliant on him.
I just wondered if people thought a) this was quite a lot to drink and b) if it was an over reaction on his part or c) lack of sensitivity on mine.
In my mind I said it jokingly but may well have been having a dig...

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loveyoutothemoon · 17/10/2015 22:28

a) yes b) yes c) no

TokenGinger · 17/10/2015 22:33

You've probably just touched a nerve. If I was eating a cake and my partner called me a fatty, I'd probably be a bit sensitive about it. Similar thing.

ciele · 17/10/2015 22:43

Token ginger- true!
And love you to moon-thank you. I am very blunt but equally he is very grumpy and can also be insensitive.

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wafflyversatile · 17/10/2015 22:48

If you're unhappy in the relationship then he probably is too but you are financially reliant on him. You're stuck and so's he. Two bottles of wine is a side issue. What can you do to stop being financially dependent on him?

Boredofthinkingofnewnames · 17/10/2015 22:52

I think it's a bigger issue than two bottles of wine, what's his normal relationship with alcohol?

marzipanmaggie · 17/10/2015 23:14

Echoing what others have said... It's not the quantities per se that are the problem it's the relationship with alcohol and how it impacts on those around you.

It's possible to be able to drink vast quantities of booze from time to time and not be an alcoholic. My ex is an alcoholic but would rarely have drunk that much. If it's a problem for you then it's a drinking problem -- whether he meets a textbook definition is a red herring.

But the more pressing issue is the fact that you are obviously unhappy with him with or without the drunk issue and you need to address this.

ciele · 17/10/2015 23:22

Thank you. I know the drink is a red herring. I think I am just moaning and groaning as it's easier than anything else.
It's very small fry in the scale of life.
X

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IrishDad79 · 17/10/2015 23:28

You were "joking" but don't act coy about it, you were getting your little dig in at the same time. It's a passive aggressive technique a lot of people use.

tallwivglasses · 18/10/2015 00:08

Is it just you who is financially dependent or do you have dc? What would it take for you to be financially independent?

ciele · 18/10/2015 01:02

Irish dad ... Hardly coy if I'm explaining it myself!
I don't want to reveal too much but I can not work and we have dependants.

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Phoenix69 · 18/10/2015 06:06

I don't think a bottle of wine in an evening is too much in a social setting. A bottle on your own two nights running is excessive but I doubt an alcoholic unless he feels down without booze and needs it.

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