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Is EA behaviour to be tolerated if abuser is ill?

34 replies

Snoopy1612 · 30/09/2015 15:19

Hi, looking for some advice - my conscience says that i should take into account his illness but my gut says no. Been with my H for nearly 19 years - moved in together after 10 days as a couple, we have one DD who is 17. Didn't realise that it was EA until a few years ago - from early on there were isolation techniques, strops and arguments about me looking at other men/other men looking at me, my behaviour and conduct prior to having our daughter. All bad behaviour (yes, you guessed it...) were blamed on his ex and his parents and interspersed with grand gestures and gifts. The flip side was:
• leaving his job as he couldn't cope on more than one occasion
• determining how money was spent (joint account where i was earning twice what he was but still had to account for any spend)
• going through my mail, facebook, email and phone
• following me or checking I was where I was supposed to be (happened earlier this week where a meeting was moved to a different office resulting in 13 missed calls in 20 mins)
• throwing things when in a rage and punching walls
• threatening to disappear and kill himself when “losing” an argument
• accusations of having an affair (still get accused of this at least one a fortnight) or at the very least hiding something from him which he has a “right” to know
• being accused of being cold and unemotional, unsupportive, not meeting his basic needs, not listening to him
I’ve spent years modifying my behaviour to try and avoid arguments including breaking contact with friends (no visitors to our house in the last 2.5 years) and given up interests and hope in doing some things I’d like to do – to the point where I have had anxiety attacks if I’ve had to go away for work or as a volunteer at kids group events .About 3 years ago he was diagnosed with a blockage in his brain which he attributes the worsening of him behaviour and says that I can’t really hold him to account or expect him to change as a result of this. A few weeks ago he was reading my FB messages without my knowledge where he read that I had been offered the opportunity to undertake an MSc through my work and went ballistic that I hadn’t told him. This led to a two week period where I acted as his counsellor – every time he felt that he was having one of those “thoughts” about me we’d talk it through where he’d tell me what I had done that had triggered the behaviour but there was no need for me to change my actions or to provide evidence to contradict his thinking – this was exhausting and I think just another form of abuse without the shouting. Things have now reverted to type, but I’m expected to let it pass as he isn’t well and I “forget all the good he does, like making dinner occasionally or tidying up as well as buying gifts – question is should I continue to put up as he isn’t well or end it? I pay ALL household bills rent, council tax, phone, electricity and food from my salary he pays Sky, TV license, his credit card and car loan and our “treats” and trips. If I go, he won’t be able to manage financially. While I can’t directly attribute his behaviour to this, our daughter suffers from anxiety and depression and they are barely civil to each other. Any advice appreciated.

OP posts:
Jan45 · 11/11/2015 15:24

You have to detach completely from this psychopath because that is what he is, blockage in brain - really?

He's been abusing you the whole time, it wont change, the only hope you have got is completely no contact whatsoever, in other words, disappear - put yourself first for the first time in your life, you are allowed!

I don't know how you have lived like this for so long, doesn't mean you have to continue, you can clearly manage anyway as you pay the bulk of everything, just do it.

RiceCrispieTreats · 11/11/2015 15:42

The consultant is concerned that you're not more supportive...

And the consultant told you this himself?

Or did you hear this criticism of your behaviour via your oh-so-impartial husband? You know, the abusive guy who tries to find all the ways he can to make you feel bad and to control your behaviour?

ouryve · 11/11/2015 15:56

It doesn't matter if he's ill, you do not have to accept the role of emotional and verbal punch bag.

What are you hoping to gain by sticking around for more?

ouryve · 11/11/2015 15:59

And so what if he tries to make out you were unreasonable if you leave him? Get there first. It shouldn't affect any settlement, whatever he claims about you.

AutumnMadness · 11/11/2015 16:01

OP, if you are such a horrible wife that he has to criticise your all the time and get angry with you all the time, surely your presence is a danger to his health? You have a duty to leave.

Seriously, run!

Your husband is an adult with a job, living in what is still a welfare state. He'll be fine. Take care of yourself.

pocketsaviour · 11/11/2015 16:01

You understand that the consultant didn't say all that, right?

If you doubt this, call the consultant and say that you'd like to discuss with him/her the level of support, as you understand they told your partner that you weren't being enough of a doormat supportive enough when he flies into these violent rages, swears, throws things and threatens you.

I agree with pallas that the Freedom Programme can really help you here.

Annarose2014 · 11/11/2015 16:04

No consultant in the history of the world has ever said any such thing.

Consultants don't give a shit who visited their patients, whether two years ago or two days ago.

Smorgasboard · 11/11/2015 16:18

Yes, it's been a while since you posted, nothing has changed for the better. How long do you continue to add another one to his sorry list of bad behaviour?
You can decide to leave or continue posting the next bad thing over the next few years. Up to you, not a good example being set to your DC about how wives should be treated meantime.
Look to break through whatever it is that is keeping you there. He is not and has never been your responsibility. He's not changed for the better over 19 years, so he's not suddenly going to improve his personality in the future, this is who he is. No use in waiting, just more of the same unfortunately until you get out.

DoreenLethal · 11/11/2015 17:17

His parents, siblings and extended family all live where the hospital is though none of them would have been able to offer me somewhere to stay.

From a good family then OP?

Not.

Look - he has been abusing you the whole time. He is not going to stop abusing you now. He just has an excuse to do so.

So what are you going to do about it?

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