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Need urgent advice. Ex tried to kidnap DS from school.

43 replies

Dogsarebetter · 28/09/2015 12:22

Previous ex drama is here-www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2451444-Threats-of-violence-and-birthday-contact
After months of violent threats, ex threatened to kill me and snap my neck in the front of the kids so I stopped contact until he went to court for access. He has PR and is on the birth certificate.

Quick update-
He's had no contact with DS since. He sent me a letter to attend mediation which I declined because he's a violent argumentative bully and I'm not paying £300 for the privilege of being screamed at because he can't get his own way. Especially when he's claiming legal aid because he works cash in hand so he gets it for free.

So I hadn't heard anything until I got a phone call from the school on Friday saying ex had turned up and was trying to take DS. I was round the corner so I got there pretty quickly and he was in reception kicking off. They have security and hadn't let him in the door but he was saying he was "fucking taking him and nobody was fucking stopping him"
Headteacher took us into his office and I said that he wasn't taking him because of the threats and to take me to court and then he could see him in a contact centre. He was still screaming and swearing and saying nobody could stop him. I said he had repeatedly threatened to kill me and he said no he hadn't, he'd actually threatened to kill my DP (that's ok then...) and it was my fault oldest DS was scared of him because I shouldn't have had the phone on loud speaker when he rang threatening me (..?)
He was still shouting he was taking him so I calmly said "Well, if I can't stop you taking him, that means you can't stop me" I walked calmly out of the office, down the corridor, got DS and walked out of school holding his hand while ex shouted at me. My DM lives round the corner so we went to hers and locked the door and rang the police while DM went to get oldest DS.

Poor oldest DS had seen ex turn up while he was in assembly and had ran round to his brothers classroom and obviously hadn't been able to find him, and DM found him inconsolable in reception thinking ex had taken him.

Police were surprisingly helpful and are going (not heard if they already have) question him regarding threats. I'm seeing my solicitor later to see where we go from here. ex has been into school this morning and has put in writing that nobody but him or me is allowed to collect him (so I can't have a bloody childminder for work!) and he wants ringing when I collect him or if he's not in school. Just to make my life difficult. He also said I attacked him and wanted headteacher to be a witness! (he's insane, I was nowhere near him! and now I'm scared he's going to try to get me done for an assault that never happened) Both boys are off school until I've got legal advice, they both don't want to go back and oldest is really shaken up.

what a mess :(

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PiperIsTerrysChoclateOrange · 28/09/2015 19:24

You may get a fine for not taking them to school, but I think it's a child protection issue and until the school can 100% say that they will not realise the children without you there then I would risk the fine.

queenofthepirates · 28/09/2015 20:12

Nonsense, she can't possibly send terrified children to school when the HT may have to hand them over without a court order in place. It would be lunacy to send them in. Don't even consider it until everyone is well enough to go back. Ans no sensible HT would take them back until they are in the right state of mind to be able to learn. They need love, care and hugs (and so does the OP by the sounds of it) not threats of fines for non attendance.

Twinklestein · 28/09/2015 23:01

You may be eligible for a prohibitive steps order as well as a non-mol.

I don't know how much your solicitor is charging, but the NCDV could organise both orders for you for free as the threats were recent and the police were involved. Link here:

www.ncdv.org.uk/are-you-suffering-domestic-abuse/how-the-law-can-protect-you/

Dogsarebetter · 29/09/2015 14:31

Hello, sorry I didn't update sooner but I didn't want anyone to read it, work out who I was and jeopardise anything.

I went to court this morning and I now have a non-molestation order and a prohibited steps order, meaning he can't come within 100m of my house, my parents house or the school and he can't remove DS from my care or the care of anyone who I entrust him to, e.g school. Back in court on Nov 5th if he contests it, if not it will last for 12 months. So happy!

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KitZacJak · 29/09/2015 14:46

Great news! So pleased for you that this is sorted for now. Good to see the right thing has been done.

DisgraceToTheYChromosome · 29/09/2015 14:46

Woo hoo!

goddessofsmallthings · 29/09/2015 15:43

Brilliant news! A great result for you and your dc and I suspect their HT is also delighted.

MooseBeTimeForSummer · 29/09/2015 15:49

Has he been served with the order? It isn't effective until he has!

FlyingPirate · 29/09/2015 15:52

Wonderful news! I hope it all goes well

Want2bSupermum · 29/09/2015 15:58

Make sure the school have a copy of the order so they can serve him with it if he shows up. Keep a copy at your parents house too. I'm not a legal expert but I think for it to be effective he has to be served. Worst case your parents or the school can serve him notice.

MissMarpleCat · 29/09/2015 16:01

I'm very relieved for you and your dc's Flowers

Whoknewitcouldbeso · 29/09/2015 16:08

My god for once justice has been done !!!!

Dogsarebetter · 29/09/2015 17:03

It's effective from today but he's not in breech until he's been served. So he can't take him, but he can't be arrested for trying either. But hopefully by tomorrow he will have been served.
Also just to add, I got advice from my solicitor but I actually represented myself. I filled the forms out and went myself in front of the judge. Meaning it only cost me the court fee instead of the £5k it could have cost! I will need representing in November but if anyone who is reading this needs an order it's pretty straight forward and easy to do and the court was very helpful.

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CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 29/09/2015 18:02

I am so so happy to hear that the system has worked for you - Jesus H Christ, I don't get how anyone believes they can act like that and get away with it, especially when it involves kids! Have some Flowers - you must have been so bloody stressed.

PiperIsTerrysChoclateOrange · 29/09/2015 18:04

Do you have Facebook and would ex likely to be snooping at your Facebook page.

If so could you put hope William and Harry has a good day in school tomorrow.

See if he falls for the trap. That's if the school can legally serve him a copy of the order.

BerylStreep · 30/09/2015 10:53

Great news. What an awful situation.

sleeponeday · 30/09/2015 10:55

Oh what fantastic news! Smile So pleased for you, OP.

goddessofsmallthings · 30/09/2015 11:12

Flowers Well done for representing yourself and no doubt you can reassure others that there's nothing to be scared of ehen going it alone.

For clarification, as the court fees for non-molestation and occupation orders were scrapped in April last year, presumably the fee you paid to the Court was c£215 in respect of the Prohibited Steps Order?

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