Social Internet showing on Phone bill

[janaus]

Unfortunately, I am keeping an eye on OH phone bill.
I have noticed some use of Social Internet.
He is not computer/ phone savvy at all.
He does not have Facebook. He doesn't have anything.
But I am wondering if something can be hidden from the screen of Ipad.
It's nearly every day, some use. Doesn't seem a lot. Maybe 65 kb, or 1000kb some times. He doesn't have email either.
Does anyone have ideas what it might be.

Could it just be auto back up ? If you haven't switched the settings off then once a day it'll back up any changes you've made to the device throughout the day ie any photos taken. That can use a lot of data .

1000kb is 1mb (I think). 1mb nowadays won't even get you a picture download so of it is something your husbands been using it'll be more than likely instant messengers.

You haven't noticed the use of 'social internet' you've noticed the fact his phone is using mobile data (hopefully not whilst he's in the house?). It doesn't sound like he actually needs mobile data as his apps could update whilst he's on wifi at home, so I'd be tempted to say 'can you turn mobile data off, or at least set your apps to only update on wifi?' and see what he says.

It could be anything - does he use a weather app, or look at the news?

65Kb is nothing by today's standards as pp said. Most likely just text. If you can access his device you can find out which app is using which amount of data. I've done this on Android, not sure about other phones.
I didn't realise bills broke down usage by category.

What's caused you to "keep an eye" on your oh's phone bill?

They often don't - mine just does phone and data.

But they can - the phone companies will take a record of every single phone call and data connection attempted, whether it succeeds or not, and then work out if it's billable - e.g. phone call was answered and was at peak time to premium number so is billable at tariff x, or phone call got engaged signal and did not succeed and is not billable. Same happens for texts, data connections for apps or other internet usage.

Not that this actually helps you with working out what exactly is happening here, but I would guess, as suggested above, that it's something like a weather app or whatever - 65Kb is tiny these days.

That amount of data is nothing, why are you snooping on him?

The mobile phone bill online lists every phone call made, to what number, date. It has a separate section for Data Useage, shows the dates and how much used on each date. Then it also shows Social Internet, with dates and how much on each date.
The reason I feel I need to check, was I noticed a dirty text message.
Then looking at the bill I saw 2 FaceTime calls. Asked him about it and he knows nothing about it. So I decided to look what other calls to this number. Over 50 phone calls, texts, and picture messages. The number on his contacts was listed as Lyn. Since asking questions, Lyns name disappeared.
Some calls at 5.30 am, and at times I am not here, or on Saturdays when he is out playing golf. Now I have noticed that a contact Wally has this number.
I don't like doing this, but gut instinct is telling me something is going on. Also texts being deleted. Sorry to be feeling suspicious.

You posted this the other day I think - I remember the Lyn/Wally thing.

I'm going to be blunt now.

This is not "gut instinct".

This is EVIDENCE AND FACT.

Your husband is having regular text/call/picture contact with another woman that he then denies and hides further.

Your husband is treating you like shit.

Snooping on his data usage don't change that.

You've seen the dirty text, you know about the calls and pictures and the lies.

You've got two choices:

1. Live a miserable life torturing yourself snooping around for (more) evidence of what you already know
2. Tell him to fuck off with his lies and his cheating

I did (1), once. (without half the evidence you have) God was it soul destroying. And oh did I walk on air when I did (2) instead.

It's not gut instinct lovey, it's fact.

And "sorry to be feeling suspicious"

What the fuck do YOU have to be sorry for?

Ain't you that's doing something despicable.

You could ring Wally and ask them what's really going on.

Why on earth are you checking his data usage? It means nothing when compared to the proof you have. Tell him to fuck off.

bit of an update
My snooping, via find iphone, showed me he must have gone for a walk past the house.
Funny thing, my sons father inlaws name is wally, but definetly not the same wally contact in his phone. Last night, son, his father in law and my husband went to watch the rugby together.
After I got home after seeing his walk .. I innocently asked hows Wally. He became very flustered and gibberish, saying who? I put him out of his misery and said the father in law.
I am not rushing in to anything. Until I have more info.

If it shows "Social Internet", it's Facebook/Twitter/YouTube/MySpace/Ebay/Foursquare/LinkedIn or Google Maps. I think that's all of them. For some networks, these are charged at less than the usual internet rate - for example, visiting Facebook on the internet is billed as "Social Internet" and is free, but if you click an ad, you get billed for that little bit of data, which is why a very low amount shows. Using the Facebook app is not free, bizarrely.

Depending on the network, Google Apps might also be included in "Social Internet" - so it could be Gmail notifications.

You dont need more info. You know he's cheating. You need to decide what to do about it.

Thank you Anchor, it must be G mail. I know that was being used, but none of the others.
Never thought of that.

Have you logged onto his skype/viber/whatsapp as if you were him. That can be quite illuminating. Also sync his email accounts to your phone if you want more evidence.

He will lie about the extent of his betrayal, so maybe it is as well if you establish a fuller story before you confront.

Maybe post in relationships - they are good over there

he finally admitted to a brief 3 x fling. I am sickened and disgusted. It was a customer in his work, making a gate for her, a chinese lady, made a move on him. What part of No, is too hard to say. Well, I know I am being stupid, but moved into spare room, And he must get help from doctor, seems to be an addiction. I know most wont agree, but we are older, too hard to start again. Never trust again. Denied using internet to keep in touch, I know he is too dumb to figure it out anyway, thats why I was surprised. Funny though the Social Internet has stopped appearing on the bill about the time I first started asking questions. Thanks for your support on this thread and others. Wish me luck.

I wrote him a long, emotional letter. He kept denying it when I asked him. Pretending everything was fine. Finally got the answer I was expecting, after him reading the letter. As I expected, most of the calls in the early stages were work related about her job.
I know I will always be looking over my shoulder.

Don't underestimate his ability to use the internet to seek out sex. The desire to get something, is a great motivator to learning previously unknown skills. He already figured out how to chat with her and not leave searchable evidence.

If I were you I would prepare for the possibility of more revelations. They nearly always have done far more than they initially admit to. He could well have been on dating sites etc. I'm sorry, I know it's not what you want to hear but I don't think you should commit to staying or going until you have investigated further and had time to absorb it all.

You are staying with him after this ?

An addiction ? That you are going to help and support him with ?

Oh dear. A miserable time ahead for you. A clean break could not be any worse than what you are letting you in for.

Well, pretty heartbroken, and confused. Having space in separate room might help. Will be checking, but not obsessively like I have been.
Yes, he might be smarter than what he is letting on.
Anyway, will give it a go. Ty all.

Oh Janaus. I am so sorry you are going through this. You have been in turmoil a while now since your suspicion was roused. Your DH has/is cheating on you. At least you know now. Please think hard about 'forgiving and forgetting'. Can you tell someone in RL and seek some support? He is a pig. You will probably live a happier life without 'looking over your shoulder' for the next time.

What's he addicted to?

An addict just because he's been caught?

The Social media probably stopped because he hides it further under stones now. Sounds like you've scratched the surface.

He may not be as 'dumb' as you seem to like to imagine.