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I don't know how to get back on the relationship horse

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ToGoBoldly · 02/09/2015 01:40

Hello,

I had a fairly robust thread on here about a year ago, I can't for the life of me remember my login details etc...but the kindness and advice I got was invaluable, and was a big cog in the machine that made me change things. I am thankful to everyone who helped me.
The long story is here

But the short story is I have a terrible history with relationships. I've never really felt like I have had a proper one, except one with an older man who turned out to be quite abusive. I was under the somewhat naive impression that he was still my closest friend even though I didn't want to be in a relationship with him anymore. He kept overstepping boundaries and guilt tripping me. I had plenty of advice here to get rid and not contact him. It took me a long time but I was fed up of trying to please him when it was holding back my own happiness. Eventually he hit the roof when he found out I went on a date and hasn't spoken to me since. I am glad, and no longer have interest in being in contact with him, he clearly doesn't care tgat I am trying to be happy, so he's not a good friend to me. I am quite embarrassed it took me so long to see this, and quite upset that I wasted my 20s with him. Anyway, I don't miss him.

But I really miss having company, and really miss intimacy. Most of my relationships and sex life have been marred by horrible things, so for a long while I stopped caring. I felt I needed time alone and to learn about myself and my needs. I am still working on it, but I feel so much better, less dragged down and a bit less depressed. I have been having counselling for various things for about a year now, and will continue for the foreseeable future, so I am working on my confidence, boundaries, assertiveness and healing old wounds. I feel like I am making slow and steady progress.

However, I am really confused about my feelings on relationships. I am happy to be single - I am independent and can entertain myself. But I have been alone for so long that I am craving attention and intimacy. The problems are there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants the same as me, and even if there are potentials I get so scared that I screw up.

I haven't had sex for over a year, which is the longest ever for me since I was a virgin. It's frustrating. I enjoy sex, but am only interested in someone who wil respect me. I tried online dating for a while and mostly hated it but did chat to one person who seemed nice. Eventually I suggested we meet for a drink, we met, we did some stuff but still haven't actually had sex. We have met three times over the last few weeks and I have really enjoyed myself - it's been nice to speak to someone new and exciting to get close to him. I am not certain I want a full on relationship , I don't think I am ready.

However, I really worry that my last relationship has screwed up what I think is normal - I worry about being too paranoid/too much of a doormat/ giving too much away. He seems to respect my boundaries and makes sure I am comfortable. But I can't work out whether it's moving very slowly or he's not really interested in me. On the one hand I am fine with slow, I don't want an intense needy relationship and only wanted to dip my toe in to build my confidence a bit. But I have no idea whether what we are doing is normal, or whether I am just setting myself up to be a mug again. So everything is tinged with fear and paranoia. I talk myself into a hole worrying about being used and laughed at, or thinking this guy doesn't actually like me and no one ever will. I have no reason to think that, he seems sweet, we talk on the phone and text now and again, and every time I think "oh god, I haven't heard from him, he's lost interest", he magically gets in touch so I think I am just worrying needlessly.

I don't think he's in love with me, but I'm not in love with him, I don't care much for the concept of love to be honest. I guess we are using each other for occasional company so I don't think love is really necessary, I think it's ok to have fun as long as we all know where we stand. But I don't know if I am telling myself this because I have become super-resilient and know what I want, or if I have some underlying sense of desperation that means I will take anything and try to use attention and sex to raise my self esteem, a tactic which failed miserably in the past. I suppose I worry that if / when it goes wrong this time it will be a catastrophe and I will realise I haven't made any progress at all.

I try to stress less and say that relationships are not the centre of life. But they are a pretty big part of life and I have already missed out on lots through poor choices. I have friends and activities but they only fill up so much time, I feel like I am missing out on a big part of living, partly because I laid such crap foundations on how to have relationships with friends, and right now I feel like it is not fixable.

I'm not sure what the question is...am I right to go into relationships being suspicious? Is it foolish to just enjoy it if someone likes (but not loves) you? I am on red alert for abusive behaviours, I'd rather be in no relationship than a bad one, but I don't know if this is holding me back from enjoying the moments. I don't know when I will ever be certain about what is right or wrong. My instincts tell me I am probably over-thinking. Is there such a thing as certainty, or is it normal for it to be about risk and second guessing yourself?

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ARV1981 · 02/09/2015 06:48

I don't know how to answer this, but your post echoes my experience in many ways.

Like you, I spent my 20s with an older man, who abused me and feel I wasted what most people describe as their "best years". It sucks.

I was lucky. I ended up marrying someone I'd had a long friendship with (we met at college before I met my ex). I knew he was "the one" very early on because we'd known one another for such a long time it made sense that we'd fall in love etc. 5 years on, and I'm expecting our first child.

So, while I didn't "take it slow" with him as such, a 12+ year friendship was necessary for me to feel I could trust him enough to "let him in" - so I don't think you're doing anything wrong in wanting any new partners to take it slow with you, so you can find out if you trust them enough to "give" more of yourself to them and fall in love.

I do still, even with my dh have issues... I jump when he shouts in an argument (arguments are perfectly healthy so long as you resolve them) and flinch as though I think he's going to hit me. He never has, never would and never will. I know this, but my learned behaviour from my ex makes me react in ways that upset the both of us. I know it upsets him, a lot. He's cried because of it. Proper tears for me, for what I went though and for the fact that he thought I thought he would do that to me.

I think once you can learn to trust again, you'll be fine. Flowers there are decent men out there, but like most of the good things in life, they don't come easy! Good luck, and keep posting.

LovesPeace · 02/09/2015 14:48

Stop overthinking things.

See men if they are nice to you, and you enjoy spending time with them.

If they get tiresome, finish with them and move on.

I really think there is a danger of paralysis by analysis in your reflections.

ToGoBoldly · 02/09/2015 16:28

Thank you both for your replies.

Yes LovesPeace, that's exactly my fear, I will never get anywhere because I think about it too much. But then I worry about thinking about it too little and leaving myself in open to being crapped on again. I need to stop worrying I guess. Work out what is gut feeling protecting myself and what is paranoia holding me back.

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ToGoBoldly · 02/09/2015 18:37

Hi 0dfod,

I am having long term counselling at the moment. My relationship fears are a bit of a recurring theme but to be frank are small fish when it comes to things I am untangling in my therapy! But I am noticing patterns of being afraid of being hurt, and of rejection.

I did look at the freedom programme briefly and also bought a book about controlling relationships, which I never got round to reading so I should revisit these, thank you for the reminder Smile

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