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Ex taking children out of Europe

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Flapjacksmad · 11/08/2015 12:21

My ex husband took our 2 girls aged 10 and 12 to Spain for a holiday with my consent. He gave me very detailed information about where they would stay and I had his mobile number. However, while they were there he took them to Morocco for the day. I'm not sure what to think of this as it's obvious he knew he would be going, if not before the trip then at least the day before. He could easily have told me but seems to have chosen not to. While I am all for my children seeing new things and getting experiences, I don't feel comfortable with him taking them out of Europe, especially without my knowledge. Does anyone know what rights I have as to whether he has to have my permission, can I prevent him doing this in future without my knowledge? I know this may seem a bit over-protective but I have reason to not trust him. Thanks for any advice/ thoughts.

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Offred · 11/08/2015 19:15

Any person who has the child's passport for any reason could potentially abduct the child to a non-Hague convention country though. If you don't trust someone not to abduct the DC in this way the only thing you can do is not agree to a trip abroad and not give the passports.

sleepsoftly · 11/08/2015 19:25

You didn't answer HellonHeels question OP. Is he a foreign national, we wonder?

It could be relevant.

HellonHeels · 12/08/2015 12:50

I was wondering if he might be a Moroccan national which could have triggered OP's anxiety about the Morocco trip. Not sure if Morocco is signatory to Hague convention.

Bogeyface · 12/08/2015 13:24

I can understand the her wobble.

99.9% of the time these trips are fine, but very occasionally they are a smoke screen for abduction, and of course any parent would worry about that. Add into that the issues that North Africa have had in recent years, of course anyone would be concerned.

Also I am a "let me know so I know whether to worry" kind of person. If something had happened in Morocco that day then it wouldnt have been on the OPs radar to be concerned and make sure they were ok.

Its not to say that every second of every day should be accounted for but that he should have at least said "There is a day trip to Morocco tomorrow that I am planning on taking them on, just so you know". I would if it was the other way around.

Bogeyface · 12/08/2015 13:27

FYI, Morocco is a signatory to the Hague Convention.

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