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This is the conversation I am about to have with my husband.

51 replies

JugglingLife · 30/07/2015 18:43

I will no longer have my feelings minimised by you ignoring them or refusing to debate them, this has gone on for years and I have had enough.

I will no longer be dragged down by your incessant negativity and pessimism. This has gone on for years and I have had enough.

I will not be accused of things that are not true, such as your sulking debacle over me lazily saying I couldn't be arsed to have sex whilst cuddled up to you. You sulked for over 2 weeks. You said I was spiteful and had hurt your feelings. We had dtd the night before, I said it teasingly.

I find it incredibly sad that whilst I am away with the children you completely check out and have no interest in contacting them.

I am fed up with policing what I say and how I say it, often saying nothing for fear of your accusations.

His reaction to me saying that we needed to have a talk (about our relationship) was, well it depends on how you are going to speak to me.

I feel trapped and lost. The way I am is a direct result of his ongoing failure to discuss anything about our relationship. If I have an opinion he tells me I am shouting at him or 'abusive', I do not shout nor am I abusive. I may be curt or short but that is it.

I'm at the end of the road aren't i. I've bottled it all up for so long. I'm tired and fed up. I'd rather go alone than continue this.

He may well read this. Maybe that would be a good thing.

He's going to tell me that everything is my fault and accuse me of always saying everything is his fault.

He can be a fantastic husband and father but the lack of emotional communication, the complete detachment and failure to even listen to my feelings let alone acknowledge them, the glass half empty negativity and pessimism has led me to a point of no return.

What a fucking mess.

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JugglingLife · 30/07/2015 20:23

He does not consider that I have a right to force him to discuss anything. That was the start point. He is as unhappy as I am. It is over. He is already saying spiteful comments, it does not bode well for the future. We are supposed to go on holiday for 3 weeks next Saturday. He is now not coming. I have told him that I do not want the children to know until after the holiday. They are 7,11 and 13. He wanted to put the house on the market straight away. Told him that was not acceptable at this stage. He had already checked out, couldn't have been more obvious.

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pocketsaviour · 30/07/2015 20:26

That must have been really hard, OP. I'm sorry. But it does sound like it's the best thing for both of you. Flowers

JugglingLife · 30/07/2015 20:39

Feelings seem to be switched off at the moment, I'm just sat quietly in a separate room.

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ImperialBlether · 30/07/2015 20:43

What a horrible time for you. I don't want to make things worse for you, OP, but IME there's someone else lurking around.

needastrongone · 30/07/2015 20:47

Oh juggling I am sorry. It's still a shock, even if you feel as you do.. Spend the next day or two ensuring you are fully aware of how you stand financially and practically. Focus on the practical side of things. Get legal advice. Confide in a close friend and family. Be kind to yourself.

JugglingLife · 30/07/2015 20:49

Even if there was imperial. It would kind of be academic, our problems are historic. He says that he can't live with me being 'frosty' any more. I know I can be frosty but that is because I'm so fucking frustrated with him. I'm worried now, not for me, for the children.

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Verypissedoffwife · 30/07/2015 20:50

I know it probably doesn't feel like it now but you will be so much happier without him. I know it's scary when you've been together a long time but your life will be a lot better without hI'm draining your happiness. Flowers

JugglingLife · 30/07/2015 20:50

My family are not around here, his are but I suspect I will be persona non grata by the time he has said his piece, our friends will no doubt end up having to take sides.

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JugglingLife · 30/07/2015 20:51

I feel like I can't even vent on here as he is reading it.

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Enoughalreadyyou · 30/07/2015 20:52

You wouldn't be frosty if he connected with you. If he's so detached and ready to walk away I would suspect playing away. Have you checked phone and bank records? Or maybe it doesn't matter now.

Be tough and don't let him play you for a fool.

JugglingLife · 30/07/2015 20:55

I suggested a trial separation, to see if we were both happier or not, all he would focus on was the fact that he was not leaving the house.

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Enoughalreadyyou · 30/07/2015 20:55

Why is he reading this? I know you are desperate for him to understand but now you've lost your support.

Wait awhile and post under new name.

SugarOnTop · 30/07/2015 20:55

let him read it! If he can't be man enough to discuss things with his WIFE and chooses to emotionally detach from you - then he deserves to read exactly what he is choosing to avoid listening to! Give it to him full barrel.
the pathetic spineless sad apology for a man - you are well rid of him.

JugglingLife · 30/07/2015 20:57

Everything is shared except for a credit card that he has - the statements are online and I do not know the password. Not that it matters. We are both time deficient, if he is 'playing away' it would most likely be an emotional affair at work.

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TRexingInAsda · 30/07/2015 20:58

It doesn't matter if he's reading it tbh, he's not your problem anymore. It sounds like he has been like a burden to you instead of a support - that's not a partner and nobody could be expected to carry on with that long term. I'm sorry you'll be feeling like crap now, but when your heart catches up with your head you'll feel like a big weight has been lifted off your shoulders, being free of this. x

JugglingLife · 30/07/2015 20:58

I don't know that he Is reading it but he has the app on his phone and may well know my name etc.,

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starlight2007 · 30/07/2015 20:59

Ok be very careful if he is reading Nc...

Be certain you are protected financially..It sounds like it may well be pointless protecting the kids. I think they may need to know..they will be guessing and jumping to conclusions anyway.

JugglingLife · 30/07/2015 21:00

How long does it all take? How long will I be under this roof with him?

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Enoughalreadyyou · 30/07/2015 21:01

Ask for the bloody password if it's a joint account.

SugarOnTop · 30/07/2015 21:13

it sounds like he's going to be very difficult and make things intolerable for you - such as insisting on not moving out.

i would suggest that you start separating all your finances as of right now - make a separate account if you don't already have one and transfer all your wages/kids money/benefits etc into it and log the account change with the relevant authorities.

start treating him like a tenant after you've separated your finances - if he's insisting on remaining in the house until it's sold then he pays his share of everything AND maintenance. Stop all cooking/cleaning for him and don't arrange anymore holidays/days out with him included. he can take the children out on his own.

Speak with CAB and get some legal advice on an Occupation Order, as that is what you would need to forcibly make him leave the house but there are criteria that would need to be met. Get legal advice before agreeing anything to do with selling the house and dividing asserts etc.

here's a link re the occupation order www.citizensadvice.org.uk/relationships/relationship-problems/relationship-breakdown-and-housing/common-issues-relationship-breakdown-and-housing/relationship-breakdown-and-housing-occupation-orders/

Verypissedoffwife · 30/07/2015 21:20

Have you looked to see if you'd be entitled to any benefits? You may get enough to afford to be able to move into a rental. That's what I'm doing and I cannot bloody wait!

It could be a fresh start for you and the kids? But see a solicitor first as that may be really bad advice.

JugglingLife · 30/07/2015 21:30

I am so bloody concerned right now and I need lots more advice but can not risk it on this thread. I will nc tomorrow. I can not believe it has come to this. Thank you everyone. Thanks

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Verypissedoffwife · 30/07/2015 21:37

You could go to the "other place"

agnes54 · 31/07/2015 08:43

you want it both ways, now he has agreed with you you're still not happy. why has it to be on your terms if he wants out of the relationship as well you cant control the whole situation.

Jan45 · 31/07/2015 11:27

Without an emotional connection and mutual respect what is the point in flogging a dead horse, if he won't engage, be a team then it really is time to call it a day. I am sure there are loads of women staying with men like this purely because of the children.

In fact some of the stuff I read on here horrifies me that women are putting up with complete arseholes. You can live without a man quite easily, and happily.