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Is my boyfriend abusive?

48 replies

ElPathetico · 16/07/2015 00:01

Hello, I'm 18 and my boyfriend is also 18. He's done a few things which I think I'm abusive but I'm not 100% sure. When these things happen, I can objectively see that they could be classed as abuse but I don't know, i don't really feel like I'm being abused abused if that makes sense? And I don't think he realises that what he's doing is wrong? So i'm unsure.

Some of the things that have happened:

  • He won't take no as an answer. When I do say 'no' to him for whatever reason, he becomes moody, petulant and very argumentative.
  • I was supposed to go to his house one day but I ended up not going as I was too tired. He was very angry. He was tired too (for the same reason) but he managed to wake up early and make an effort and clean his house in preparation. I understand that this is annoying and i was wrong, but his reaction was quite extreme. He said he considered 'never talking to me again' and when I offered to go the next day, he said he didn't want to look at my face. He calmed down after a few hours but I was quite shocked at his extreme reaction to (what I thought) was a small issue. I'm still unsure about this incident. Maybe I WAS wrong and he had a right to be extremely irritated?

-Before we had the 'defining the relationship' talk, he made out with his ex while drunk at a party. He knew it was wrong because he called me that very night to explain and apologise. I ended things the next day, but we still talked every day. One of the conversations we had was really odd. He said he was unsure of his feelings, was confused and sometimes when he expressed his feelings, he wasn't sure what he actually felt and whether he was kidding himself or not. He later came said that he was wrong and begged for another chance. I agreed as I felt (and still feel) like he was being genuine. However, he sometimes 'jokes' about how much he hates me and my 'stupid face'. He probably is just joking but when he does, I can't help but remember the conversation we had.

I feel stupid typing this and I know that if a friend was in this situation and came to me for advice I would tell them that it really wasn't worth it. I know that I should probably end things, but I suffer from depression and anxiety and he really does make me happy (when we're not having a petty argument). I think he genuinely likes me and he doesn't do any of this on purpose. He also really cares and tries to help with the depression thing but fails (because he's not a very empathetic person), but it's the thought that counts right? I'm really confused.

OP posts:
Anniegetyourgun · 16/07/2015 12:01

I think it's having a boyfriend that makes you happy (although it should not be the only thing that does!). There are so many really nice young men around - hell, I gave birth to four of them myself, one's your age, the others older - who would be much better company if you made space in your life for them by dumping this one. A little teasing is fine if you don't mind it but your bf's "jokes" are just pointlessly mean. When you have depression and anxiety you don't need that stuff.

Lweji · 16/07/2015 12:08

The stupid face alone deserves a LTB.

DragonsCanHop · 16/07/2015 12:14

18 isn't a time in your life to be dragged down by stupid people!

Tell him it's over, block and delete his number/fb/Twitter/Instagram etc and go out with your friends. Do you have a relative you can go visit for a while so you are not around?

You will feel so much better for doing it and I bet your stress and anxiety eases once he isn't around

Lottapianos · 16/07/2015 12:25

I agree with everyone else OP. He is being highly emotionally abusive and you do not have to put up with it. This is not a 'normal' relationship, none of this is to be expected in relationships at any age.

You said if a friend were in this situation, you would advise him / her to walk away. Hold on to that very tightly. It's often much easier to be clear headed about a situation if we imagine someone else going through it. Learning to be your own best friend is a very important skill and that's what you need to do right now. This person is no good for you and you deserve so much better.

I suffer from depression and anxiety and only started to really deal with it when I was about 30. Don't be me. I highly recommend seeing your GP and asking for a referral to a psychotherapist or counsellor. It's very tough and can be very scary finding your way through all of this by yourself, and having a trained professional help you is a really good way of taking care of yourself and getting to the root of where your depression and low self esteem.

But your first step is to get rid of him. And when you do, cry, sob, stay in bed - allow yourself to feel it all. It hurts, it feels dreadful but let it out. Come on here and post again - you will get tons of sympathy and support. Good luck and take care of yourself x

WhetherOrNot · 16/07/2015 12:27

No, it's not abuse........he is just being an 18 year old knobber.

Lweji · 16/07/2015 12:28

It is emotional abuse.

Lottapianos · 16/07/2015 12:30

Whether, you have a very low opinion of 18 year olds. Refusing to speak to someone, threatening to have nothing more to do with them (for cancelling a date), calling them names, admitting to cheating, telling someone you hate them - all types of emotional abuse.

Iflyaway · 16/07/2015 12:31

Red flags all over this!

Listen to the wise women on here....

Anniegetyourgun · 16/07/2015 12:40

he is just being an 18 year old knobber

I suppose he might grow out of it, but the best way to help him do that is for him to lose a few girlfriends so he starts to wonder what's wrong and hopefully takes a good look in the mirror. Waiting around in that kind of relationship for him to grow up is pretty doomed because he won't have any reason to change. Mind you, that he even wants to behave that way in the first place isn't a very good sign.

Lucy90 · 16/07/2015 13:38

Yes this is abusive.
Him being angry with you for being tired reminds me of an abusive ex who used to physically keep me awake so i couldnt sleep and i became ill through sleep deprivation at his hands.
Please dont wait for the abuse to escalate

ElPathetico · 22/07/2015 13:22

We've broken up now and he insisted we stay 'best friends' and continue to talk every day; but I told him I'd rather not speak to him anymore. Hopefully I'll be able to stay strong. (Wow I sound really dramatic right now)

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imjustahead · 22/07/2015 13:28

you just stay strong op, you can't stay best friends with a former boyfriend who takes the piss out of you. He sounds like a dickhead.

move on and ignore him, he's a baby.

cocobean2805 · 22/07/2015 13:29

Don't talk to him. Just block his number for the time being. You've broken up, he can't insist upon anything! You don't owe him anything. Well done OP. Cake Flowers

butterflygirl15 · 22/07/2015 13:29

good for you - he cannot make you be his friend or talk to him. Just shows how controlling he is. You have done well to get away. Make sure you block him on your phone, Facebook and anywhere else.

Hellion7433 · 22/07/2015 13:33

Well done. You deserve better

hellsbellsmelons · 22/07/2015 13:43

Block block and block some more.
You can't be friends - he still wants the 'control' over you. Don't let him have it.
Please do contact Womens Aid and enrol on their Freedom Programme.
You're at a good age to attend this before you get embroiled with any more abusive arseholes.
The course will teach you how much you are worth and help you spot red flags early on.
Spend a bit of time finding out who you are and what you want and what you like.

hellsbellsmelons · 22/07/2015 13:45

I told him I'd rather not speak to him anymore
You also need to get more assertive.
rather is not what you want to say.
That sentence should be, I told him I wasn't going to be friends and that I would not be speaking to him any more.

Imustgodowntotheseaagain · 22/07/2015 18:31

Well done! Wine Cake Flowers

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 22/07/2015 19:37

Well done!

The fraudulent post break up 'best friends' concept is bullshit. It only happens because one person wants the other one back and the second person feels guilty. I have been on both sides of this so I know! My first boyfriend was a whiny, clingy twat and tried to do this 'talk every day, hang out as friends' bullshit and I went along with it although it made me cringe with guilt and regret. One day I hung up on him and that was that. I was so relieved!

You don't owe him, not friendship, not anything. Cut him out and you will get over him a whole lot quicker I promise!

Jux · 22/07/2015 23:43

Well done! What an idiot he is. As if he could insist on anything. Pah!

TelephoneIgnoringMachine · 22/07/2015 23:47

Well done!

Suggest you are now ElFantastico!

Stay strong. The worst part is over.

Morganly · 23/07/2015 00:03

He is not your friend at all, certainly not your best friend and talking every day will be his way of continuing to chip away at you in the hope he'll catch you at a low point and reel you back in so I agree with what every one else says, keep your distance. Well done, by the way, I'm sure it was difficult but you've done it. It's not dramatic to give yourself a little bit of credit when you've demonstrated your inner strength in adverse circumstances!

trackrBird · 23/07/2015 03:12

won't take no as an answer

didn't really need to read past here. He is a malevolent control freak, also known as an emotional abuser. Keep away from him now and do not fall for his 'best friends' routine - he's still trying to control you with his 'insisting' you talk every day, etc.

You might feel distressed again, but please don't take him back. The distress doesn't mean he was right for you. It's just one of those things that can happen, and if it does, it will pass.

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