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Tonight, I hate him.

16 replies

nameforthebadstuff · 17/11/2006 23:26

So very angry and upset. I'm six months pregnant, due to get married in 3 weeks.

Been with DP, living together, about 3 years, the main - almost the only - thing we argue about is his friends, including his ex-girlfriend. she is at the centre of a group of friends he was part of when he lived in the south of the country, he now lives in the north (moved to be near his children from previous marriage) but has often gone down to visit them, always on his own - I've never met any of these people. So you can understand why resentment starts to build up. They have frequently invited him (and only him) on long haul holidays he can't afford (a couple of years ago he went with them, which nearly split us up) and I know they've tried to get him to move back down south, they even fixed him up a job down there, and two of them fell out with him when he didn't take it, so he hasn't been down so much in the last year, thankfully.
then he got an invite - for him alone - to his ex girlfriend's son's wedding. Now, surely it's not normal, when two people live together, to invite only one? and even less normal to accept?
I told him, calmly, I would prefer him not to go. I think his social relationship with his ex, and excluding me, is increasingly innappropriate when there is a baby on the way - then he admitted that he hadn't even told any of these friends that I'm pregnant. Or that we're getting married. He says he'll tell them at the wedding, and he's gone, although there is really no need for him to spend two nights there. Oh, and he's staying at his ex girfriend's house.

Believe it or not, I actually do not think he would cheat on me with this woman - for a start she's twenty years my senior, and they never had much of a physical relationship to start with.

But she and these other people are wealthy, throw lots of parties, have sailing boats and no dependent children - I feel that I can't compete, that our social life is dull in comparison and that I'm going to spend weekend after weekend up here with the baby while he buggers off to relive his single days. And I can't face it. tomorrow I'm going to the estate agent to enquire about rental properties in the area. And I don't think I want the baby anymore.

written down like this, I can see what an asshole he sounds. But he is a decent, kind, intelligent man, and a fantastic father to the children he has. But he seems willing to ruin our relationship for the sake of these friends. It's causing me so much stress I couldn't go to work today, I've been crying for about 24 hrs and I don't know what to do.

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colditz · 17/11/2006 23:52

If he is going to go, go with him. Do they even know about you? Don't let him hide you away like a secret mistress like this. I personally would issue an ultimatum. He takes you with him (He may find it's not as much fun sleeping at your ex girlfriend's house if your real, pregnant girlfriend is there) or you move into a rental.

colditz · 17/11/2006 23:52

you really don't need nobbishness when you are pregnant, I of all people know that. I really feel for you.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 18/11/2006 00:00

Its not on to invite just him and not you. Something not right about this exclusion on his part and on the part of his friends.

Flossam · 18/11/2006 00:06

I wonder how old he is? reason I ask is because DP has spent much of our relationship living, it seems for his friends. No ex girlfriends on the scene now, although there was one to begin with, which DP was very good about. I felt very secure. However we have frequently come to blows about how often he goes out, but as he gets older, and his friends get older it becomes less and less. When he goes out now with his friends he is usually the only person without his partner there - I'm not there because going out at all is hard enough without trying to find a babysitter. Was this ex an older woman who would like to think she still has a hold?

Kidstrack · 18/11/2006 00:20

He is very selfish, would he let you stay at your ex partners house for a family wedding, i think not, there is no trust in your relationship and its hard to build it if you don't have it early on in a relationship. Why hadn't he told friends you were expecting a baby!!! Basing these few things it seems there is not much of a relationship, sorry if that sounds harsh but i wouldn't let my dp stay at an ex house over my dead body!

Fattymumma · 18/11/2006 00:28

i think you should call him tommorow and explain that you wish to discuss the future of your relationship when he returns. then sit down and tell him that he is not single, that disappearing on weekends away is unacceptable and that he is not to stay at ex girlfriends ghouses...if this is not to his likeing then you shall leave.

alternativly, go through your wardrobe and get a nice dress on, then go to the wedding....thats one way of making it abundantly clear to all that he has a very real very pregnant fiance.

Monkeytrousers · 18/11/2006 01:10

I don't understand, Did it say explicitly that you werent invited? What has he said about you going with him, or is he the one who has told you that it's him alone?

I wouldn't feel comfotable going actually; not if things weren't sorted out before hand. If you're going to be tense and paranoid the whole two days you're hardly going to be at your best.

It is easy to see how resentments have built up, yes. What you need most is to be able to trust him that he has your best interests at heart; yours, his and the baby's. Try to be calm and ask him what he wants.

nameforthebadstuff · 18/11/2006 02:12

Yes the invite was for him only, with only his name on it.

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juliaplustwo · 18/11/2006 03:04

I would insist he phone to ask if he could bring his partner with him, and if not he should not go. If he can't see how partying with glamourous people and staying the weekend with an ex-girlfriend, would make his pregnant partner feel insecure, he seems a pretty self absorbed type to me.

Alibaldi · 18/11/2006 03:10

Second what juliaplustwo says. He should be taking you and if he can't see why you're upset. You need to sit him down and talk to him about your relationship. It's important that he respects you as his partner and mother (to be) of his child. Sorry that this is happening to you.

pedilia · 18/11/2006 08:07

Ho does sound extremely selfish, you need to have a conversation with him and issue an ultimatum.

He had his chance to live the single life, now he needs to grow up.

Freckle · 18/11/2006 08:28

Do they even know that you exist? Has he told them? It might well be that the invitation was issued to him alone because they are totally unaware that he has a partner - let alone a pregnant one.

Do you have his ex's telephone number? I would call and ask to speak to him, telling his ex who you are.

If he has kept your existence quiet, I would want to know why.

Blu · 18/11/2006 14:12

"for a start she's twenty years my senior, and they never had much of a physical relationship to start with. " Did he tell you this?
I honestly don't know whether he is just behaving rather immaturely, or whether you have anything more to worry about, but if he made a point of telling you this, I would be inclined to disbelieve it. Being 20 years senior to anyone is no guarantee of anything..think Camilla and Charles, and of course he would tell you they never had much going on physically...everyone always does!

But I can see that it is possible that he hgot to know his ex's son, and that it is quite nice for the son for your DP to be at the wedding, and that they are ringfencing guests somewhere. Though it does indeed seem rude for you not to be invited, especially given that there do not seem to be financial worries.

It sounds as if he is behaving like a big kid who wants to keep his carefree single life going alongside a family life with you. Does he understand how very excluded that makes you feel?

Sheraz · 18/11/2006 14:20

I'm surprised you have tolerated such apalling behavior for so long. What sort of man doesn't tell his friends that he is going to be a DAd for starters? If they are such 'good' people then they would welcome you into their group - I guess they don't know about you. He is an arse. Print this page off and show him!

WinkyWinkola · 18/11/2006 17:47

It's in no way normal for one person to be invited to a knees up and not their partner. It's just not done.

It makes me think either his friends are very odd (they do sound it for falling out with him because he didn't move back down south at their command!) or they simply don't know about you.

He sounds really immature to keep putting his friends and himself first like this. That's what twelve year olds do.

You are pregnant, you are supposed to be his life partner, you are supposed to be in this together. It's not really good enough, him disappearing off the way he does. Hardly supportive of you, is it?

I'm not at all surprised you're not happy. There's no way I'd put up with him going to this wedding without me and staying at his ex's house adds insult to injury. Bang out of order. Is he really an intelligent man?

I agree with Sheraz. Show him this thread. Perhaps then he'll understand or try to understand how you feel and realise what having a partner is all about.

Take care.

Judy1234 · 19/11/2006 10:02

Girl friend pregnant often is the time some (nasty) men seek sex elsewhere. Ex girlfriend 20 years older than you... women that age can be very sexy actually. I would have thought objectively it was about 90% certain he's sleeping with her. Why wouldn't he? It's an opportunity thing and he's the sort of person who hasn't married for life and been faithful to one person has he? He's already on the second woman he's having children with. Some people don't change.

How do you know those friends know you exist? Are you sure he's going to marry you? Would it have been better to wait to have the child until after the wedding?

Could you not persuade these friends you're as interesting and fun as him and become part of that social set with him and then to resolve things?

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