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Pregnant, late father's abuse haunting me. Sorry for length.

31 replies

ShebaShimmyShake · 05/07/2015 08:38

Hi all.

My father died eight years ago. He was a fundamentally good and well-intentioned person, but very damaged. He had an unstable background, his own father was abusive and died when he was 17 and he had a terrible time with his mother and sisters (one older, one younger). Everyone from that side of the family is damaged, though they show it in different ways.

He had a flaming temper, and growing up there was a lot of screaming, shouting and swearing, though when I was very young there were lots of displays of love and tenderness too (he used to make me toys out of paper and wood, loved taking me and my sister out to places and so on - he very much wanted children and liked them when they were younger). As I entered my teens, though, things got tense between us and his behaviour became abusive - every few weeks an argument would end with him chasing me into my room, cornering me, and slapping me across the face, kicking me or punching me in the mouth. He would call me names ('fucking parasite' 'piece of shit' and 'cheeky bitch' are the ones I remember most vividly but there were others) and tried to kick me out of the house when I was 15. (I actually stayed purely to piss him off - yeah, I know.) I was not a bad kid - quite the opposite, I was teased at school for being such a swot, I was a dedicated Girl Guide and Scout and actually a bit po-faced. He just couldn't accept that normal teenage moodiness wasn't personal and had no control over his temper, nor understanding of not escalating situations. He never touched my mother or sister, but there'd be screaming rows with them as well.

It was never taken seriously in my family and it still isn't. On occasion I told my mother I wanted to contact ChildLine and she would cry and tell me to stop being so dramatic and that I would ruin the family. I sometimes thought about going to the police but we were a respectable looking middle class family in a respectable middle class area, I was a good student, I wasn't being starved or beaten or locked in cupboards, and I suspected I wouldn't be taken seriously, indeed even doubted whether it was as serious as it sometimes felt. My mother still talks about how it came down to Dad's 'lack of confidence' and while she has learned not to speak about it like that to me because I won't accept it, she still doesn't quite accept how very serious it was and bristles if I use the term 'abuse'. If I'd had a boyfriend who treated me that way, my family wouldn't have rested until he was in prison. I remember actually being jealous of kids whose parents were divorcing because it was exactly what I wanted my parents to do. I didn't want to have to live with my father or have any contact with him.

It got a bit better after I went to uni, though he remained foul tempered and foul mouthed his entire life. I thought I'd made peace with it all but now I'm pregnant with my first child, it is coming back to haunt me. I am getting angrier and angrier that a)it happened and b)my family refused and still refuses to take it seriously, and I am also absolutely terrified that I will do similar things with my own child. I would sincerely rather not have a child at all than have the kind of relationship I had with my father (it was one reason I wasn't sure I wanted kids for a long time). I'm finding it hard to enjoy my pregnancy and look forward to my baby with my husband (who is wonderful) because this is all haunting me so much. I don't know if bringing it all up with my family all these years later will do any good though.

Is there a way of moving on through this so I can enjoy my pregnancy and look forward to my new family life?

OP posts:
schlong · 06/07/2015 22:46

Op you are not your father and the mere fact you're concerned you may recycle his abusive parenting means, most likely, that you won't. Hope to hell you have a supportive partner.

ShebaShimmyShake · 07/07/2015 17:51

I have a very supportive partner...I basically married the complete opposite of my father. In a way Dad did me a favour. A lot of women are attracted to the dangerous bad boy types, but my hideous experiences with my father mean that I've always run a mile from anyone who shows a temper.

OP posts:
bettysviolin · 07/07/2015 18:40

OP I haven't RTFT but I am sending you a PM.
Flowers

Sheba I married the opposite of my father too. Sometimes his coolness and reserve drives me nuts having got so used to the fury and ranting, but almost every day I feel myself grinning inside for having got that choice so right.

MewlingQuim · 07/07/2015 18:57

My situation was very different but I also found the abuse coming back to haunt me when I was pregnant.

I also found it got worse after DD was born. I suppose it's because all I knew was how not to be a parent IYSWIM, so I worried about making similar mistakes with my child, and as DD gets older I am more hurt by my childhood as the more normal DD's upbringing is, the more wrong mine was by comparison.

I agree that parenting books are useful as they help to give you some idea of normal ways of dealing with your child's behaviour.

bettysviolin · 07/07/2015 19:07

If things get tough, I recommend the Stately Homes thread for some very supportive, non judgemental MNers. whose own childhood was dark behind a veneer of perfect family.

And if you haven't a clue how to be a good, non-furious, non-controlling, taking-everything-personally parent, I recommend Positive Parenting by Jane Nelson. It's a USA book but you can usually pick it up on Amazon. It's the closest I found to learning how to be a good parent from a book. It's gentle and never punitive. It's very hot on stopping power wars between parent and child. It defuses triggers. Everything. It transformed my behaviour for the better.

LoisPuddingLane · 07/07/2015 19:51

The people who were actually there refuse to see it that way, which makes me question myself. It's crazy making.

It really is. Very few of my family will even acknowledge the shit that went on when we were younger. They've gone for the under-the-rug Disney version of events.

And it drives you almost mad. You start thinking you have made it up. But I couldn't be as fucked up as I am and have a normal, loving childhood. It happened. And so did your stuff happen. I totally believe you. And I also believe that the awareness of it makes you not repeat it.

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