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future with a short tempered husband

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floatinglight · 18/06/2015 13:51

My husband has been difficult to live with. Indian family, living together before marriage is not acceptable in our culture and I didn't gauge his real nature until we started living together after getting married. He is supportive most of the times. I can't get my head around him, specially regarding kids. My husband had a tough childhood and had no toys, much friends, activities etc and his mother's role is very grey to me. His grandparents had taken care for most of his life. He has never seen his father and his parents separated when MIL was pregnant. Mil and husband lived with his grandparents. My husband has become very short tempered in the last few years, specially since his grandparents died and he is assumed to take full responsibility of MIL. Mil and I don't get along at all and have minimal contact with her. She stays in our house for months but I don't talk to her. Issues, fights and arguments has taken a big toll on our relationship and we both have less patience with each other now.

He shows his irritation and says stuff directly to people which can offend them. Its very difficult to have any friends because of his behaviour. He thinks he is right in saying and showing how he feels directly to their face. Otherwise they should put their behaviour right in the first place. He can see each shortcoming in everyone around but his.

Recently my sister was visiting us and he was so rude to the kids all the time that I felt sorry that I invited my sister to stay with us for a few weeks for holiday. No amount of making him understand that it is not our position to tell off their kids each time, as it spoils the environment in the house when one adult is fighting with the kids for right and wrong at the same level and he should leave it to my sister to deal with them. If I say something directly as then my sister feels I should step in stop him from escalating things, he takes offence that I'm contradicting in front of them and if I hint with the looks, he says to me out loud that why am giving him the looks whereas I should be stopping the kids. Asked me "if I'm an activist for kids that I protect kids all the time" in front of everyone, not just once but a few times. The kids are very unruly I admit but they misbehave even more if corrected harshly. So trying to avoid to escalate the situation, my sister and I were complying a little to keep the kids happy for a few days as otherwise they are fine with their own dad around who they listen to. I stopped counting the times I had to say "not your kids" to keep it short without him getting annoyed at me and making it worse. My sister said she doesn't want us to fight as she knows her kids behaviour is excessively bad and let him say whatever, she will not mind. But I could feel that she felt bad and thought it reflected upon her.

I would guess in-laws have kept him on a tight leash all his life and would have been very obedient but he gets angry out of the ordinary when he sees children getting away with bad behaviour or having too much fun. If my sister and I went shopping and got some toys to kids which they were showing when we got home, his immediate comment was what did you deserve to get his toy? There is no warmth in his heart for kids. Kids do provoke us too but we have self control and specially as they are not my kids and are only visiting us for the first time in 10 years, I wasn't set on modifying their behaviour. But obviously my husband says they go on becoming rapists if you don't correct their mistakes. Odd comment but might be due to recent 2 years reports on rapes in India but still wtf? I'm giving this as an example as I feel there is no reasoning with him and somehow misbehaving kids are equivalent to heinous crimes or something along these lines in his head. The sister who was visiting said that he is so short tempered, specially around children, that it will be problematic with someone who cannot accept even an honest mistake from a child and my other sister says that he will probably soften when he has his own children.

Sorry for the long post. I know my family will not support me in divorcing him, its all very traditional. I don't personally like his new short tempered behaviour, there is no fun. We have been married 5 years and I don't have the courage to openly discuss the option for divorce with my family. It will be more painful for my parents than me and will affect my sister's lives and my sister's in-laws who would taunt them for life, blaming our upbringing, parents etc. One of my sister had a divorce and my parents were under immense stress as they were too keen to get her re-married as they believe that one has to be happily married to lead a happy life. My own mum tells me to accommodate with MIL and let her move in with us even against my wishes as MIL issues are all to common. I feel like I'm better alone than with him. Pressure is on from both families for having a baby after being married for 5 years. We're living sort of separate lives or at least I feel detached than as a couple just to avoid arguments. We are fine till we do our own things and sometimes as a couple on weekends. But that is because I know what not to do when he is around. Bring in someone for a day to our house and it becomes a battlefield. Too much to ask my husband to be nice to people? May be since I don't talk to MIL, he takes it out on me as he knows I feel embarrassed and awkward. I know I'm extremely rude to his mother as I don't talk to her when she is visiting us from India but its because of her putting me down for everything and not showing any respect for me. I have no desire left to have a relationship with her.

In our big fights if I say that I would be better leaving him, he says he will never divorce and he calls people who divorce incompetent to resolve their issues. I don't know why he doesn't see an issue in his behaviour and no one believes it might make me want me to get separated from him. I know Indian women bear a lot but I feel stuck as an individual and doubt myself.

I guess the question is - are such men ever good with children if I do happen to continue living with him despite our own problems? What can I do to make the situation better if we have a baby? We do want a baby but I don't know if it is the right thing to do. Apologies I have written quite an essay Sad

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magiccatlitter · 21/06/2015 03:56

Is it possible to have a trial separation from him for awhile? This may lessen the effect on family as they will have gotten used to you two being apart.

It seems the sister made it through her divorce and if you decide to, you will too.

It is sad that your H is broken very likely from childhood events. There isn't anything you can do to fix it and these people tend to be like bottomless pits sucking the life and joy out of everyone around them.

He can change himself if he wants to through professional help but he has to see that his ways aren't good for him and want to change first, as it isn't possible to convince someone to change.

You don't want to spend the rest of your days miserable as well as him damaging any children you may have. Life is too short to be unhappy.

Springtimemama · 21/06/2015 04:28

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floatinglight · 18/07/2015 04:58

I have been more open about my problems with my sisters since their last visit. But my sister said that even though he was rude, he is not ill-mannered and we shouldn't fight over this. It feels like my real problem is his total lack of respect to my wishes. It did not matter how many times, in how many ways I asked him to ignore them for another 2 weeks, he chose not to. He says he can't control when he is irritated. He cannot hold back. We've argued and he wants to know how to make it right. But it's always been like that, I can tell him a million things before or after but he still does it anyways. And as if, he didn't know what I wanted at that time.

My sister says I'm being too harsh. Says she wants to support me but 'can't guide me to the wrong path'.

I don't know about legal side of things for divorce, we got married in India but we have not registered our marriage in UK. And I fear that real nastiness may start if I seriously look into divorcing - both from him and my own family. Or I could just let it be, not make an effort this time to make it right again and detach myself. Honestly don't want any other relationship. I was much happier alone. Living in a foreign country with no family and support is difficult. Day to day with my husband is okay/nice but is horrible when it counts.

It's better if it is just the two of us. I have already cut down to just 1 good friend and my own family, can't shave more people from life. Feels like his mum's happiness is everything. It will not change until things get better between MIL and I. But I don't see that happening either. I'm too bitter now.

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Anniegetyourgun · 18/07/2015 08:24

But the world is not made up of two people. (Or more to the point three, counting MIL.) Unless you can afford your own desert island you will always have interactions with others. And then there's the pressure to have a baby...

ShebaShimmyShake · 18/07/2015 08:45

I really do understand the pressures of having to maintain a relationship within a particular cultural/religious/ethnic community. Really, I do. But you will destroy yourself staying married to a man you do not love and who will damage you in one way or another. For God's sake, do not have a child, and divorce. And when you fear of the repercussions from the family/community, remember the words of Rhett Butler:

"Until you lose your reputation, you'll never know what a burden it was or what freedom really is."

Skiptonlass · 18/07/2015 09:09

Be careful in cutting out other people from your life - you can end up in a bubble with just the two of you. Then you end up believing your situation is normal ...

Put very starkly, you have two choices. You either stay with this man and have fifty plus years of misery or you leave.

It is difficult when there is family pressure. A catholic friend of mine had a similar situation - her family put enormous economic pressure on her to have kids, put up and stay. There were threats of being ostracised from her family and church, and of hellfire.

She left, they eventually came round to the idea and now she wishes she'd done it five years sooner.

Cubicus · 10/11/2018 23:55

"...he gets angry out of the ordinary when he sees children getting away with bad behaviour or having too much fun ."

I have been lurking on this forum for a long time, I find Mumsnet users very supportive and give great advice (having often gone through similar themselves). I finally feel compelled to register and say something because of this sentence.
I grew up with a father who was like this, and I truly feel it's contributed to my having depression and anxiety for most of my life.

floatinglight It's been a while since you've posted this and I hope you are in a better situation now.

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