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What have I done - have invited MIL to stay for an indefinite period!!

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VanillaMilkshake · 14/11/2006 09:56

I know this is a fairly insginficant thing compared to some peoples concerns on this section, but wanted some advice/tips (good kick up the bum ) or just your opinions.

My DC2 is due in a matter of weeks - and DD(3) has always been my main concern when it comes to where I will give birth and who she will be with - so much so that I was considering a home birth - for all the wrong reasons.

A really good friend was going to have DD, but she was anti-HB which pissed me off, and last time we went to her house her youngest DS was in a bad mood and really intimidated DD.

So after chatting to MW about HB and then to DH I admitted if DD could stay at home I would happliy have a hospital birth - which DH is relieved about. The only thing is IL's live 2 hours away and I have no family who could stay with DD. And all other friends have thier own lives - understandably.

So after weeks of complaining (mostly on MN) about MIL's unfair treatment between her 2 sons (BIL and wife also just had baby). And her sly and coniving attempts to place herself in our house following the birth so she's first to see our new DC etc... I put my feelings aside, sucked up my pride and phoned her asking her to come and stay from 39 weeks until new baby arrives.

She was more than happy to come and when I explained why I was asking her because I want DD to be with someone she knows and have all her home comforts etc she said she would enjoy taking DD out for walks and spoiling her etc so I could rest. This on top of being a relief also made me feel guilty for my earlier rants against her.

However last night she phoned again to check the date we wanted her to come so she could 'check it was alright with my SIL' . And once again I was made to feel like my BIL and SIL matter more than us.

My SIL has her own quite big family down the road and a mother who regularly comes to stay with her for up to 2 weeks at a time. And she has often complained to me that MIL only ever comes round and sits there doing nothing but playing with her older DC. And on occasion because of this has asked her to leave because she is a disruption. Despite the fact that the minute she needs to go out, get something from a shop or get DC's out of hours so she can tidy, IL's are the first people she calls on.

DH and I have asked IL's for help 3 times now in the last year (last 6 years actually): - to come up while I was in hospital after M/C, to help DH cope with DD, work etc - she said no as SIL needed her. To look after house for a week while we were away - no SIL needed her. And now, which she has agreed to.

Other than that we actully like them to come and see us in no other capacity than enjoy the day, go for walks, play with DD etc. And we happily do lunch and treat them as guests. And all I will want her to do when she comes up now is make sure DD is happy.

I feel BIL and SIl take IL's for granted - and IL's let them - so both parties are as bad as each other. We on the other hand only call on them when necessary, and have learned that's often not worth the effort and so rely on ourselves for everything else.

DH and I are now dreading loosing our privacy for what could be anything up to 4 weeks, despite what we will gain in the reassurance of our DD's happiness. And we're also worried about MIL commenting on our routines etc and relentlessly comparing us to SILs household.

By way of demonstrating this to you, FIL has recently found out my e-bay ID and MIL comments on what I buy and sell in nearly every conversation. Including how SIL could use that etc for her DC, instead of me selling it. Despite the fact BIL and SIL have more money and SIL commenting to me in the past on how her DC's wont have 2nd hand clothes.

Half of me says stop being stupid and give MIL a chance to prove she is not as bad as we think. The other half of me is wondering what on earth have we let ourselves in for.

Sorry to go one - but if nothing else I feel better for getting this off my chest.

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LieselVonTrapp · 14/11/2006 10:22

Are you fuckin mad???? Sorry Im just having visions of my MIL staying for indefinite period. Good luck

Sparkletastic · 14/11/2006 10:23

Oh lordy - what if you go 2 weeks overdue?! I know you say friends have their own lives but I'm sure another mum friend (with car) would be willing to come and fetch your DD when you go into labour - if no time for DH to drive her elsewhere - and have her until your MIL can get to you. The good friend you refer to shouldn't have got so into the HB issue with you but if your DD and her DS normally get on well then maybe his bad mood was a one off? Plus your pal will really look out for your DD when you are in labour as she'll be doing her all for you hopefully. Explain to your MIL that your don't want to inconvenience her for indefinite period (espesh as she is sooooo needed elsewhere ) but would be very grateful if she could come over and collect DD from friend's house ASAP next day - it might even be in the same day as you giving birth I guess. Then she can do treating stuff for DD and bugger off home as soon as you are back together as a family. Best of luck to you m'dear!!

VanillaMilkshake · 14/11/2006 11:57

I know Sparkle - I was 10 days late with DD! the enormity of what we are now committed to is sinking in more by the day!

From 39 weeks I think will be having a lavendar bath everyday (that's supposed to start labour according to a couple of sources who tried and tested it). As well as all the other little things that are suposed to work. Apart from sex of course - because MIL will be in the next room.

Fingers crossed please for bump to make an early arrival!

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mumblechum · 14/11/2006 12:07

Oh, no no no no no.

NO.

Tell her you'll phone when you go into labour and not before.

Thought of having my MIL (or anyone other than DH and kids) in house immediately after giving birth makes me shudder.

VanillaMilkshake · 14/11/2006 12:10

I know I know, but IL's live about 2 hours away so it's not like they can just arrive in the nick of time. Esp as MW has estimated my labour should be no more than 3 and a half hours! Plus MIL doesnt drive so we have to have her delivered by FIL at a weekend!

And no having her in the house after the birth doesnt appeal to me either - I actually want to be able to come home, chuck her out and then lock the world out too!

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mumblechum · 14/11/2006 12:13

But can't a friend or neighbour have DD when you go into labour and hang onto her till your MIL arrives? And why can't FIL drive her to you if it's not a weekend? Sounds like they do a lot for your BIL and SIL, why not for you? Sorry if I've missed something, didn't read whole thread.

mateychops · 14/11/2006 12:20

I'm with mumblechum, and agree a very set amount of time after you return from hospital (like 5 minutes to pack her bag)

LisaandFrancesca · 14/11/2006 12:28

first post time... bit nervous..

MIL will be fine - it will give her a chance to realise how great you are, and if you treat her as a real person not a slave she will probably like you more than SIL!
Sypathies with the SIL - mine is tight and thinks the world revolves around her

grrr!

VanillaMilkshake · 14/11/2006 12:41

IL's live very close to BIL which I think accounts for why they are always there. And I dont think I have ever been forgiven for enticing DH so far away.

But what really gets me is that even with all the name calling MIL did of SIL before she married BIL (and SIL was aware of it as BIL - typical of a man used to tell her), and all the complaining SIL does about MIL and FIL constantly being at her house, she still relies on them for help all the time, and they oblige without hesitation.

Also found out from another family member that IL's have always treated thier DS's differently. As they also now do to GC - pictures of my BIL DC's out number DD in thier house 5-1!

As Lisa says - perhaps good will come from this visit when MIL realises how much more different and relaxed our lifestyle is.

But LOL at Matey - 5 mins to pack bag Might have to be 2hrs 5 mins to allow FIL to get here!

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LadyVickyOfBeckinghamPalace · 14/11/2006 12:56

How can anyone possibly know how long your labour is going to be?
Ask MIL to come up at 39weeks and that FIL can come up on the day you get home from hope, have lunch together so they can see their new granchild and then they cane leave to go home

ps: Have you saw your BIL & SIL's new baby yet? (Maybe this isn't you... I am maybe wrong, were you red lorry?)

22ann · 14/11/2006 13:06

i agree with a few of the others re asking friends/neighbours to look after dd till the il's arrive.
it will be nice for them to see your newborn as soon as they can (within reason) sound it out with your dh that as soon as they are no longer needed to look after dd they hoppit! that is if it is at a weekend, if it is during the week i'm sure under the circumstances a friend or neighbour would oblige, i certainly would, i would hate to think someone i knew was as upset about it as you clearly are.

VanillaMilkshake · 14/11/2006 19:53

I was Redlorry and yes have seen the new baby - twice now actually , she is lovely and SIL actually get on very well when MIL is not around - although it still frustrates me with the way they behave towards each other behind thier backs.

No one has been to see us since August (normally they would come every 3-4 weeks) and instead we have made the long drive there twice, but no more for a long time now as too uncomfrtable while heavily PG and not subjecting very young baby to it either.

22ann, not so much upset at the moment - but there's time but am very bothered about the loss of privacy DH and I will endure, and having to sit through endless conversations about life at SIL's. Also constantly hearing her call DD by SIL's DD's will bug me - but my DM used to do it to me against her sisters so I can hardly get cross about it - I just feel that way because of who is doing it.

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