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Am I being unreasonable?

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Lilypad15 · 11/06/2015 16:14

Posting tentatively in here as I know that replies can get quite... Heated... Also this will be long so apologies in advance.

Anyway basically I've been with my partner nearly two years. We don't live together at the moment so he only comes here a few nights a week, the rest he spends at his parents. When he is over at theirs, he's free to do whatever. I don't pester him or demand to know what his plans are. If he wants to go and play football, see his friends etc I'm not bothered. However when he is meant to be here, I expect him to be. We don't see each other every day so on the occasions we are due to see each other, unless it's an important prior-made plan, I feel like he should be here.

He has always been crap at letting me know about plans he's made. He used to be in a band that toured a lot and he would tell me a few days before, often even the night before, that he was going away for the weekend, week etc one time I found out via Twitter he was planning on going to America to tour for two weeks literally about a week before he was due to fly out. I think he doesn't tell me because he is worried I will be pissed off when that's not the case and I have told him so a million times, the only thing that pisses me off is when he has either big plans e.g. Going away somewhere or if he has made plans when he is supposed to be here and doesn't bother to tell me. I feel like it's just common courtesy to tell your partner things like that, if anything so they can make alternative plans too.

So it was my birthday on the Sunday just gone. My partner works on Sunday's so I was due to be spending the Saturday day with him, just the two of us as we have barely seen each other lately due to work and other commitments. He usually comes down here after work on a Friday so was looking forward to spending Friday evening with him. He texts me as he's finishing work to say he is going to meet up with his brother and some friends but will be round "about 10, probably earlier." So although I was a bit annoyed as he was meant to be here and he told me last minute, I shrugged it off and invited my friends over instead. At half 11 I got a text to inform me that he had arranged to play a musical festival with some friends the following day. Again, I was pissed off because it was supposed to be our day together but he said "if you come, we'll have the entire day to ourselves to do something and I only have to go on stage for an hour at around 4pm." So I agreed to go on the promise that at least we'd spend most of the day together. We got there on Saturday morning and I was then left alone so he could go on stage to sound check and mere minutes later, went to perform. Getting increasingly agitated, I left the festival and went out on my own.

On Sunday a few of his friends were due to come up from Wales to see him and his brother (they're twins and their birthday is the day after mine) I was a bit sad he was planning on leaving early on my birthday but figured, it's his birthday too. He said that he would make it up to me by coming to see me the next day so I was okay with that. I still hadn't had a present or card and he said he would bring it with him on the Monday. He called in sick to work on Sunday and stayed here for a few hours and then he left. He didn't speak to me for the rest of the day. Normally this wouldn't bother me too much but 1) it was still my birthday despite him leaving early and 2) whenever he is with me he is CONSTANTLY texting his mates, yet when he's with his mates apparently his phone never left his pocket to send me a quick text or even to let me know when he got home or to say goodnight.

Monday came and I was looking forward to seeing him as it was now his birthday and was looking forward to exchanging presents etc. At 5pm he told me that he was calling in at his parents as they were doing a party for him and some family were coming round but he would be over after that. It came to 10pm and he text me to say it was too late for him to come round. I really flipped, like, hard. He could quite easily have said to his family he had plans elsewhere so he might have to leave the party a little early, I doubt anyone would have minded (although it emerged afterwards that his friends from Wales were still there) I told him I was fed up of being let down constantly, always being second best to his friends. He grovelled of course and said he was sorry but that's all I ever hear, sorry. He's never actually sorry. I said if he wants to mess about with his mates forever that's fine but it was over, I need more than a part time boyfriend that only uses me when it's convenient for him.

He has been busy lately but always has time to see his friends. He jibbed me off for his friends for my entire birthday weekend and I tried to be reasonable about it but after making a promise to come here since he left me alone on my birthday and breaking that promise, I just lost it. Am I being unreasonable? I don't know how people are brought up but I was brought up to have basic respect and common decency and not consistently letting people down and lying and sneaking around falls under that category. I have threatened to leave before because of stupid shit he's done but me being an idiot have given him a million chances (yes I know I'm stupid for doing so and I only have myself to blame for this situation) but this time when I said it, he seemed genuinely worried, kept saying all the right things "I love you, I'm sorry, please let me make it up to you and prove to you we should be together" etc etc. Usually the most I get out of him is "okay." I don't know if I'm just being a totally neurotic bitch though, I recently had the implant fitted and it's turned me into a bit of a monster but I feel like this anger is justified?

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Pooseyfrumpture · 11/06/2015 17:27

You never have sex? His choice or yours? What exactly are you getting out of this relationship?

QuiteLikely5 · 11/06/2015 17:27

What is the point of him?

Seriously look at how he acts and the things he does - that is who he is.

Do not listen to his words because that's all they are.

His idea of love is rather rubbish don't you think?

Why not leave him to find some other woman to enjoy his charming ways.

Imo he just isn't treating you with the respect you deserve.

Lilypad15 · 11/06/2015 17:31

I do feel worthless. I mean, it might seem trivial me getting so upset and angry about him not coming over on Monday night and coming here Tuesday instead but he PROMISED me. He promised me because he barely saw me on my birthday. Deep down I knew he would find a reason not to turn up but a part of me was still hopeful. I was sat like a fucking div all Monday night waiting for him then he turns round and says he's not coming. To be honest, if it had just been family there, he probably would have left a little earlier and come down but his mates were there, THAT'S why he didn't come.

Best part is, he finishes work at 8 on a Tuesday evening and comes here but he text me to tell me that he was nipping back to his mums first to say goodbye to his friends as they were heading back to Wales the next day. I mean, seriously?? If I had known that they were going to be there on Monday, I would have told him there was no way he was leaving me alone on my birthday to hang round with them, I would have told him to see them on Monday, but he's sneaky like that. He didn't tell me they were up until Wednesday his week, he made out like they were just here for the weekend.

So fed up of being treated like a dickhead.

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Lilypad15 · 11/06/2015 17:33

And the no-sex thing is on his part. I'll gladly have sex whenever, wherever but he's always "too tired." I can probably count on one hand the amount of times we've had sex in the last six weeks.

There is literally no point in him at all. Only half decent thing he does is drive me to Nando's to get takeaway lol

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Justmuddlingalong · 11/06/2015 17:37

Lol @ Nando's. If that's all he's good for, ditch him.

AoifeBell · 11/06/2015 17:43

A promise is a comfort to a fool. You know what you need to do so don't waste any more of your time and just bite the bullet. Then take your DD to nandos (Grin) and forget about the cunt faced arsehole.

pictish · 11/06/2015 17:50

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

That's good that.

AoifeBell · 11/06/2015 17:57

My Ex boyfriend said that to me after another argument of me saying I've been waiting for hours for him to come round like a fool because he promised he would, again. He actually said to me " well, a promise is a comfort to a fool" Shock

It's funny now but my 18 yr old self was devastated!

Lilypad15 · 11/06/2015 18:21

I guess you're right aoifebelle, I, definitely a fool for believing he would keep his promise that's for sure

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 11/06/2015 23:18

He "won't accept" you dumping him?! WTAF? Do you have NO rights? Of course you do! Tell him that he's dumped, sod off, and if he EVER comes banging round your house like he did the other night, you'll have the police out on him! Shock

BitOutOfPractice · 12/06/2015 05:19

He sounds like a total waste of space.

It also sounds, to me, like there's someone else in his life. I'd be very suspicious if I were you

You know what you have to do

Cantwaittogonholiday · 12/06/2015 06:05

You are giving him far too much head space, it sounds utterly exhausting. Get yourself a plan, learn to drive so you can drive yourself to nandos, delete his number, get dating other people... Move on as he's never going to grow up.

phoenixrose314 · 12/06/2015 06:38

Hmmm, just me getting a gay vibe off this one?

He's not being your partner in any way, being a half of a partnership is about compromise and consideration and he only seems to be focused on himself. Don't lose any sleep over it - you, and your daughter, can do a lot better.

Inertia · 12/06/2015 06:51

If he doesn't accept being dumped, tell him that you will consider any further contact harassment and will contact police if it continues - then do so. It sounds odder than just uselessness, he seems to have some strange power thing / control thing going on.

Atenco · 12/06/2015 07:01

Been there, bought the T-shirt Lily. We are so comfortable because we forgive everything, don't we, but it just gets worse.

TheVeryHungryPreggo · 12/06/2015 07:18

He doesn't want to break up with you because this is exactly what he wants out of a relationship. You at home being the backup plan to all the more exciting stuff he wants to do. You'll always be there, and are the safe bet, because you physically can't go anywhere past 7:30pm, so you've got "plan B" written on you. It's not what you want.

When he begs you not to break up with him, he's not saying "I'll change our relationship", he's saying "don't change my life for me, I like it this way!" He might SAY that he'll change things for you, but he doesn't mean it. It's just what he has to say to get you to give in and let it slide.

When you take him back, you see it as giving him one more chance to turn it around and take things in the right direction. He sees it as whew, panic over, now everything will be staying the same.

Unless you want to sign up for more of this, bail. As a previous poster said "never make someone your priority when they only see you as an option."

Lilypad15 · 12/06/2015 09:11

I guess you're all right, he's taking me for a ride and I deserve better than being somebody's back-up plan. In his own words he said "I'm not as busy now and have nothing planned so I can see you more." In other words, I can see you now that I've not got anything better to do.

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Anniegetyourgun · 12/06/2015 10:08

OK, it's time for another song. This is clearly who he thinks he is. I wonder if subconsciously he gets off on the feeling he is a free spirit who can't be tied down (but who still lives with his parents, right Hmm). Or maybe he's just flaky.

If someone were messing me about and treating me as low priority, I probably would be sad and confused and wondering why I wasn't good enough. I'd probably fall for the terribly sorry, I won't do it again line several times as well. However: if he refused to let me end it, I would get angry. I mean REALLY angry. Not wanting to spend time with me would be his choice, but not allowing me not to spend time with him is an outrageous liberty. Knocking on your door at 10pm, wtf? HOW DARE HE. It's like one of those annoying movies where the hero can behave like the biggest asshole in history but he always gets the girl in the end because he's The Hero, and the audience are supposed to be glad about it. Have I said this before? Have I even said it to you, or are there just a lot of these around?

You do not need his permission to end the relationship. This is denying you the right to a choice, as an individual adult human being. Your basic right not to open your home to someone you don't want in there, however much he wants to be there. It is not his home, he hasn't bought it, he doesn't pay rent, you don't have kids together, you owe him nothing. NOTHING. I'm sorry about the shouting, he isn't even my boyfriend but he is making me very cross! Not with you, I hasten to say (although I'd quite like to shake you by the shoulders, but gently).

Go on, ditch the loser and get some good sex with a proper boyfriend. You know it makes sense.

BitOutOfPractice · 12/06/2015 10:08

That's exactly right op. He is not a partner. He's a piss taking flake

Lilypad15 · 12/06/2015 10:27

Lol anniegetyourgun, all so very true. I will be the first to admit that I'm one of those people who is ruled by heart and not head, it has never served me well. In some ways I am very strong willed but when it comes to relationship, I'm so weak. It's my own fault I am in this situation because I've allowed it to get this far by giving chances that weren't deserved.

I want to be with someone who would cut off their right arm before doing something to upset me or let me down. When people do things like that unintentionally then you can look past it. He knew that he had promised to see me that Monday, he knew I would be waiting for him and he knew that if he didn't come, I would be upset. But instead of simply telling his family he needed to leave, he stayed and chose to let me down. He CHOSE to do it knowing how I'd feel but because his friends were all there he didn't want to miss out on time with them. This "relationship" is a joke, I'm angry at myself for wasting so much time and energy on it.

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Anniegetyourgun · 12/06/2015 10:49

It certainly is a joke. Can you just imagine him laughing with his mates, "I love you guys so much I'm here with you instead of the girlfriend's birthday... yes I suppose she will be mad about it, I'll talk her round though... another pint?" Then they all either tell anecdotes about the more outrageous ways they treated their partners, or they change the subject because it isn't important. Angry As it stands that makes you the butt of the joke. There's only one way to turn it around and that is to send the free spirit on his way with a good (metaphorical) kick up the backside.

Lilypad15 · 12/06/2015 16:04

Yeah I can totally see him and his dickhead mates doing that. This was the second set of friends that weekend, the first lot I was ignored for were old school friends (on Friday night and Saturday) then friends from Wales on Sunday and Monday. And he sits non stop when he's with me texting his third set of mates, the ones from work. It makes me more and more mad the more I think about it. He said "I'm sorry that I wanted to spend my birthday with Paul (his twin) and my family" well I wanted to spend MY birthday with him but that didn't happen and besides, how fucking rude to tell me you didn't come here because you wanted to spend your birthday elsewhere with other people? Absolute prick.

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pocketsaviour · 12/06/2015 16:10

Like phoenix, I am also now getting a gay vibe.

I think you're a beard. Sorry OP.

Lilypad15 · 12/06/2015 16:13

Nah he's not gay. That's about the only thing I am certain of. I'm pretty well versed in this area as my daughter's father turned out to be gay and so I am fully aware of all the warning signs lol I think it is just a simple case of him not wanting to grow up and still piss about with his mates like he's still in uni but wanting me there in the background for when his mates aren't around.

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pocketsaviour · 12/06/2015 19:03

Bloody hell OP! You do pick 'em Grin

Honestly, I would sack this guy off now. You're getting nothing from the relationship that you wouldn't have from a flaky friend. Why not just keep him as a mate, you can meet up occasionally and have a laugh, but it leaves you free to find someone who actually makes you a priority in their life?

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