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Was it unreasonable to say what I did?

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fishfingersinmysandwiches · 27/05/2015 13:26

A couple of weeks ago a horrible incident of DV happened next door. The perpetrator wasn't my neighbours partner, but a younger teenage male member of the family. It was serious, involved use of a weapon, and resulted in injuries to my neighbour whom I have been friends with for a few years.

I was first alerted to it by an even younger member of the family crying over the back fence that I needed to call the police. I got them to climb over the back fence and into my property so that I could keep them safe whilst I phoned the police. My children were in the house and heard me having to relay to the police what was happening. My children have never (thank goodness - there but for the grace and all that) experienced any violence in their lives and were deeply shocked and upset by what they heard, as was I.

I have tried to be a good friend to my neighbour since. I have spent time with her so that she can talk if she feels like it, I have done shopping for her so that she doesn't have to leave the house, and I have taken her extremely distressed younger child to school when she couldn't face it. She is understandably absolutely devastated by what has happened.

Recently a rumour came about that one of my children had told someone at school what had happened. Some other children that also knew began ganging up on him saying he was going to be in big trouble. He denies having said anything but I have reassured him that it is not his responsibility to shoulder the burden of keeping anything so huge a secret and that while it is probably better to talk to me rather than other children at school, he has not done anything wrong.

However the other day my neighbour asked me and my son round because she wanted to speak to us. She gave my son a lecture about how he mustn't tell anyone about what has happened as the perpetrators reputation could suffer and it all needed to be kept a secret. My son was crying. This woman has quite an intimidating way about her, although she was calm, not shouting.

My son left to go back out and play. I felt angry and upset but made to leave too as I didn't want to add to this woman's trouble. But she could see I was upset and challenged me.

I told her (I didn't shout, but my voice was sharp and I was obviously angry) that if there was any negative fall out or consequences as a result of the DV incident then that was down to the perpetrator, and not my sons fault. If the perpetrators reputation was damaged then that was down to him. I told her she was busy blaming everyone else (including herself) when the full responsibility lay with the one who committed the violence. And then I left. We haven't spoken since.

But I feel like shit. I'm still upset that she hauled me and my son in front of her like naughty school children. I feel she undermined me as a parent and I also feel that she is sending unhealthy messages about domestic abuse - that it should be kept a secret and that perpetrators must be protected (I should probably mention in this case that the perpetrator is under sixteen). But I also understand that she is going through absolute hell and cannot be expected to behave perfectly.

I don't now know what to do. My friends seem to think it was reasonable to protect my son and to lay down boundaries (something I generally find very difficult - I can be a real pushover) but this idea that I'm being a terrible friend is eating away at me.

How best to go forward?

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PeppermintCrayon · 27/05/2015 19:32

I think you handled it in the best way possible and am horrified at her calling your son round so she could spout that minimising bs. You sound awesome.

mojo17 · 27/05/2015 23:03

If I were you I'd go and talk to the school as well just to keep the. I. The picture, I don't know if any of the other children involved go to the same school, if so they could be aware of the incident already but they need to know about your boy too

Heyho111 · 28/05/2015 00:04

I can't remember what it's called but in psychology it's about diverting / causing a different issue so it overtakes their situation. It's a way of transferring the attention to someone else. People do it without realising.
She is humiliated embarrassed and wants it to disappear. You did well. I would let her cool down. You won't get her to see it differently. In her mind this has taken over from the real issue.

SmillasSenseOfSnow · 28/05/2015 01:30

Hissy, you seem to have missed that it's not the neighbour's partner, but quite likely her child.

lexyloub · 28/05/2015 06:10

Smillas I agree I think it's her child that has attacked her. What an awful situation all round. Of course the neighbour will want the perpetrator back at the house if it's her child. She will be torn in pieces at the minute wanting what's best for both children, she'll be wanting to keep the youngest safe and at the same time get help for her eldest he must desperately need.
I think tbh OP you & your son just got the brunt of her anger and frustration not that im saying what she said was right or excusable. Let this go for now & continue to be a supportive friend. If it had been a partner attacking her it's quite easy to get rid but would any of us as mothers really turn our backs on our child whatever they had done?? You've been a fantastic friend & neighbour support her however you can, when everything has settled down in the future then maybe tell her how she upset you & your son but for now your feelings at the moment are the least of her worries.

Hissy · 28/05/2015 08:17

No, I clocked that in the op.

Does it make a difference then?

It didn't when my mothers H attacked us in our own home.

The poor woman And her child and partner killed at the weekend is relevant here. given this situation absolutely the attacker in this instance needs to be kept away AND the whole situation reported to the SS if she allows him near.

He needs help and allowin him back is rubber stamping his behaviour. That's how abusers see things. They don't reapond to sensitivities or second chances. They see it as a normalisation, and a green light to resume their violence.

DOMESTIC violence happens in the home, not just by partners. Much more support of victims is needed.

fishfingersinmysandwiches · 28/05/2015 10:51

Yes it was her child who did this to her. Sorry for being vague in the OP - I was concerned that it wasn't too identifying. But I realise this is probably not entirely uncommon, sadly.

So the perpetrator is a child. Although physically he is almost as big and strong as a fully grown man. I, personally, would not stand a chance if he attacked me - he is taller, bigger, and stronger in every way.

The children (including him) all go to the same school.

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fishfingersinmysandwiches · 28/05/2015 10:56

Also Heyho I think you may have hit the nail on the head. I too think that what's happening is that she's creating a diversion/distraction for herself to protect her from having to face the real issue Sad

I would like to continue being a support for her, but have no idea how to approach it after what happened.

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