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So I have evidence of my husband's infidelity. How long do allow him to keep lying to me?

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SteadyHand · 25/05/2015 11:29

I've name changed, but am a long time MNetter.
There is lots of back story, but I'll keep things as brief as I can.
Last year, when I was pregnant I became aware that my 'd'h was becoming more and more distant, disinterested in the children, and obsessive and possessive over his phone. I asked him about an affair, but he denied. In time, he barely spoke to me, and told me he wanted to leave. He moved out and barely contacted the dc at all.
Fast forward to the week before my due date, and I asked him to come round to discuss finances. I saw that his screen saver was of another woman. I asked about her, and was told in a blase manner that this was the woman he was seeing. I asked him to leave, and promptly went into labour.

Anyway, a couple of days later, whilst I was still in hospital as baby had been in SCBU, he rang me in floods of tears telling me he'd made a terrible mistake. In time I allowed him to come home. He seemed very repentant and full of remorse. It turned out the other woman lived abroad and they'd only met online, but he'd had a tattoo for her, promised her a home in England...

Soon after I took him back, this other woman began harassing me via all sorts of methods. Some of it was quite terrifying but I ignored it all, but each time she contacted me, it reminded me of my dh's infidelity.

Roll on a few months, and surprise surprise, my dh became distant and phone obsessed again. With a baby and returning to work though, I just ignored it as I guess I felt resigned. It wasn't until one day that I unplugged my dh's phone from the charger while he slept that I saw a notification that he'd been sent photos from another woman via a website app. I googled the app, and sure enough, it's a site for meeting people. I rang him the next day and asked him outright. Initially he said it was harmless but agreed I wouldn't want to read the messages as they were inappropriate. I told him it was over, I can't live like this anymore. Within a week he'd moved out again. Only he changed his story and said the site is just for chatting to new friends, that he's done nothing wrong, that he moved out because I ended it and told him to go.

Call me suspicious, but I joined the site myself and found him within moments. The things I have read have broken my heart all over again. He had been referring to me as his ex for weeks, long before I knew about the site. He has a girlfriend on there- they call each other hubby and wifey. He tells people what a bitch I am. When he's looked after the children, he says it's because his ex is 'fucking him about', not that this is his prearranged times to see them. When it was our dc's baptism, he referred to this as 'having to do some family shit'. There is so much more, but it is all so petty and ridiculous. Even the way he writes like a 20 year old in slang and text speak makes me cringe.

He's lied to everyone. Everyone. I've asked him outright if he's met someone, he says no. He told me he's going away next week, so won't see the children. I asked if he was meeting someone, he said no. Trouble is, I've seen the booking confirmation for his flights to go and meet his new woman! They have both been crowing about how they can't wait to finally meet each other and keep each other up all night. I know all of this, but can't bring myself to tell him.

Some might say it has nothing to do with me, but he's been carrying this on behind my back when with me. I think if the messages he sent her whilst lying next to me in bed, and feel sick.

What should I do with the knowledge I have? I guess I want him to admit his unfaithfulness, but I don't know why I care or what difference it will make. I'm so hurt and confused.

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SteadyHand · 25/05/2015 12:49

Oh, that's put the scuppers on my happier mood then! There won't be any divorce settlement as it were. We don't own property and any shares he has are squirreled away in his parents business, so I wouldn't see any of them.
No DV so no legal aid= no divorce I guess. I'll still try and get a free appointment but that's all I will be able to afford.

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handfulofcottonbuds · 25/05/2015 12:54

I'm sorry to have been the one to break your good mood. Feel bad now Sad

If he has shares hidden away, he will have to declare them in his Form E.

You can see as many solicitors as you like for their free 30 minutes (mine gave me 90 minutes as she didn't want to rush me). Sometimes it takes seeing a few different ones until you find one you click with.

Get legal advice, there may be financial options out there. I only know the ones that were relevant to my case.

Theoldcauliflower · 25/05/2015 13:23

You poor thing!
What an absolute arse hole!
Leave him , you and your children deserve better! Tell him to fuck right offFlowers

PopcornFrenzy · 25/05/2015 13:26

When my h and I divorced we used quickie divorce and it cost £37! He paid it as he was already getting married to his new woman, I admitted adultery even though I hadn't just so he got done. Is this something you would consider OP?

BeyonceRiRiMadonna · 25/05/2015 14:02

No need for an STI test- he's not slept with either of these women, they're 'just' online affairs. Until next week when he meets this particular woman.

OP really? You are going to believe a liar and a cheat? You are assuming that he's never met any of the women, the ones you know about, what about the ones you don't know about? I would seriously advise getting tested.

He got a tattoo of a woman he'd never met? WOW?!?!?

Onmyownwith4kids · 25/05/2015 14:44

I've recently divorced my husband for adultery. I never asked for costs but the judge raised it and asked if I wanted costs awarded against him. I said yes and he had to pay all the costs. Not sure if it's usual but worth checking. My divorce is recent just last month

mojo17 · 25/05/2015 15:12

Steady
You really need to access proper legal advice from and independent source
You cannot accept what your 'd' h or his family tell you they are not on your side anymore
It's a sobering thought but that is the way it is now they are not your friends and will not be looking out for you at all no matter what they say or promise

SteadyHand · 25/05/2015 17:59

Thanks for all the advice.

The tattoo- when I took him back last year, he came complete with a new tattoo. He lied about its meaning. I've since found out the OW designed it after a dream she'd had.

Due to the work h does, I know it is very easy for him to have online affairs, but meeting women for sex would be almost impossible whilst he was living at home. I may seem naive and stupid, but I'm pretty positive on this front.

A friend has found me a local solictors that offers a good introduction rate, so I'll be making it my priority to call there tomorrow to make an appointment.

I really do value the advice I've been given, thanks.

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Dontunderstand01 · 25/05/2015 19:05

Screen shot everything, tell him nothing. This leaves you in a position of power, and him completely in the dark. You get to call the shots this way, and he will be left looking like a moron.

I know he has lied online in the most hurtful way, but confronting him will achieve nothing. He doesn't sound as though he would be apologetic or remorseful. By disengaging you hold the cards, and you don't give your piece of shit ex and more headspace or attention than the absolute bare minimum.

SteadyHand · 26/05/2015 22:53

I have booked a solicitor's appointment for this Friday. I hope to get some answers or at least draw up a possible plan.

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Offred · 26/05/2015 23:09

I'm sorry because I know it's all so hurtful to you but he's so utterly pathetic with his GF abroad and dream tattoos I did almost LOL at that...

If it helps alleviate that a little I don't think his ridiculousness is at all a reflection on your worth just because you tried to make the relationship work. We've all been taken in by lies, especially at vulnerable moments and it's always squarely the liar's fault. I actually think he is humiliating himself way way more than the humiliation you may be feeling as a result of his behaviour... an utterly pathetic person...

I second looking for an appointment with a solicitor but I would keep trying CAB as you most likely need comprehensive advice as well as legal advice. You could also try shelter's housing advice line for housing advice.

And his ridiculous mother? the apple doesn't fall far from the diseased tree huh?

I think you probably have to try donning your hard hat and accepting that people who behave like this will feel a compulsion to blame you and you are not going to escape this. It's just really unfair and horrible but really their behaviour demonstrates that their opinions are just invalid... not much comfort I know... :/

Offred · 26/05/2015 23:11

and I heartily agree that you should keep your cards close to your chest. Let him find out when the divorce papers are served...

MaMaof04 · 26/05/2015 23:12

Steady dear! I am sorry I can't help much in legal matters.
However I trust that you might have some right to stay in this house until you find an alternative home for your kids. I can't believe that judges will just throw you and the kids out on the street.
And as the wise mums said above: just keep your cards close to your chest. Don't tell him anything yet. Print off everything on hard paper as documents to support your claims when you divorce.
Oh dear! Kids + full time job+ living in in-law house + a bastard as a husband! How much can a woman can put up! I hope that you will divorce on the best terms and that you will be able to start a better life for you and your kid! Good Night! Flowers

SteadyHand · 29/05/2015 20:55

I saw a solicitor today and she was just wonderful. I really felt like she understood the situation and gave me some great advice. It will be costly, but she's confident that the court will make him pay at least half of my costs, so that's something. I rang him to let him know some of the things that my solicitor suggested bringing up with him, and he just hung up the phone. I think this will be a long battle...

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