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After an abusive relationship - is this a good idea?

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AstrantiaMallow · 18/05/2015 13:46

I wonder if I could get some advice/opinions

I'm in middle of a really difficult divorce from sexually abusive and EA man who I married young and was my first relationship. That ended 6 months ago approx. I'm a sahm, looking for work, trying to rebuild my life. Most of my energy is spent looking after my children and dealing with divorce at the moment. My social confidence can be pretty rubbish and I've never had a male friend and have led quite a sheltered life in many ways. I'm having counselling at the moment.

I was recently asked out by a guy I met through work. Never worked with him though, just shared building space. He's v good friend with some people I worked with. I first had a proper conversation with him around the time my divorce papers were served as I sat next to him during a Christmas lunch. Since, he'd always been friendly but just brief work-oriented polite chat, and I didn't see him that frequently at all. In past two months he did invite me to his birthday party (I didn't go as no babysitter) and to something he had tickets for (again I didn't go), he invited other people to both but in hindsight I did realise other people far more likely to have been asked hadn't.

I fobbed him off by saying my divorce was really awful. I gave him a blanket no. But how I feel is different. I would actually like to see him as a friend because I like him and talking to him. He didn't push it when I said no, he said he understood and I knew where he was if I wanted to talk to him or needed anything. He's a widower and maybe realised I would be in a 'rebound' situation. I'm not sure.

I feel maybe I'm passing on an opportunity of making a friend because I'm too scared. Scared of getting too attached to someone who won't care or will want to run away when they know the sort of life I put up with for so many years. Scared of being abused again - my stbxh was so awful in the last few years that it wouldn't be difficult to seem nice even if he wasn't. Scared of repeating history as there's an age gap & difference in 'status', though this guy is 10 years younger than my stbxh and in completely different job. This guy seems kind and respectful. But that's in the professional environment and I made such a bad error of judgment with my stbxh that I feel maybe I'd better steer clear in case I make another error that I can't see at the moment. My priority is also to get through this divorce, make sure my children and I are ok and achieve some independence so I can give my children a decent life and not rely on my stbxh. I know there isn't much or any room for anyone else and I certainly couldn't handle anything complicated.

Anyone has any ideas how to proceed and would you think it was a bad idea to suggest being friends? What he said makes me think he fancies me so is it possible to work? I mean, would a guy who did be happy to just be friends, as long as I explained? Or would explaining (and to what extent??) leave me too exposed? I feel completely clueless really. That's why the blanket no felt easier. I've mentioned it briefly to three people in real life. My therapist gave a resounding no, thinks it's not a good idea at all at this stage. Relative says to go for it I deserve to be treated nicely and see what happens. Counsellor thinks it would do no harm as long as I set my boundaries (friendship) and stick to them. She said waiting won't make me less scared and in fact could be the opposite. Maybe it's unfair on the other person though?

Sorry this is so long. Thought it would be easier to give the whole picture to begin with.

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AltheaVestrit · 18/05/2015 14:26

Have you done The Freedom Programme?

AstrantiaMallow · 18/05/2015 14:32

I did it online, Althea.

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Handywoman · 18/05/2015 14:38

I think if you say you want to be only friends, you'll have to police that boundary. Do you feel you could do that?

I tend to think men feel they can eventually find their way into a woman's pants, on the premise of friendship - he may or may not be in that camp, but if he is then it's way too soon in my view - it has the potential to start taking up an awful lot of headspace that is needed for your recovery.

It's totally understandable that you are tempted though, OP.

GoatsDoRoam · 18/05/2015 14:54

I don't think you should explain anything to the guy. Just decide how much or how little you want to interact with him, and stick to that. Which may involve you saying "no" to him if he wants more than you are prepared to give.

Do you have the mental and emotional energy for this? Romantic entanglements have a tendency to take a lot of both, and you are probably too tied up in children and divorce right now... Do you think you can face this?

AstrantiaMallow · 18/05/2015 17:32

I would only want to be and could only be friends right now. So I wasn't thinking about the whole thing as romantic, I don't think I know him well enough to think of him like that GoatsDoRoam, and also still feel quite flat a lot of the time, but that might not be accounting for this guy having different ideas. I definitely don't have the mental space or energy for romance at the moment.

I hesitated even posting as the idea seems completely frivolous and ridiculous compared with what is going on in the rest of my life.

Maybe the reason why I felt I was over the top giving a blanket no was because I have so little time for a relationship anyway. In my head friendship would mean just going out for coffee, lunch and maybe an exhibition or something like that, all day time. That's something I could do about once or twice a month so not much really, so I thought maybe actually the likelihood of anyone trying to overstep the boundaries in that short space of time was not that great. Maybe it's awfully naive though.

I doubt myself and my ability to read men and how well I could 'police the boundary' handywoman

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GoatsDoRoam · 19/05/2015 07:45

I don't doubt that your feelings are not romantic at the moment. But his most likely are. And that could sway you into difficult emotional territory, if you are the kind of person who tends to feel responsible for other people's emotions. Which you possibly are, since you spent a while in an abusive relationship.

If you're feeling vulnerable in your ability to police your own boundaries at the moment, this may not be the safest thing for you.

AstrantiaMallow · 19/05/2015 13:48

My boundaries were trampled on from the start of my relationship with my stbxh. When I started putting some up near the end the abuse got much much worse. Stbxh used to justify himself by saying it was all my fault for being me, that men can't help themselves. Boundaries meant nothing.

So I don't know how good or not I am at boundaries. Because of what went on I assume they are not good. I'm not sure. It feels like a fine line between not trusting anyone and being too trusting.

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GoatsDoRoam · 19/05/2015 13:52

Trust your instinct.
Do what you are comfortable doing, and don't do what is not comfortable for you.

Your limits will not be the same as another person's, and that's ok. You only need to do what feels right and good for you.

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