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I am so lost. Relationship at a crossroads. I love him but should I stay?

52 replies

lionsmane33 · 16/05/2015 23:22

Wow. Where to start on this. I can't give all the detail as would be hugely identifying. I am begging you to read this and offer guidance.

I've been with my DP for about one and a half years. I have loved him for maybe 4 years. We dated on and off before the current relationship.

First time round I messed up. I was messed up and wasn't in the right place for a relationship. Deep seated issues from childhood abuse. I realised how much I loved him after we drifted apart. Spent a year or so working on myself. Felt stronger, better. We got back together. These last 1.5 years have been beset by external troubles. I can't go into them here but they were huge. We struggled through. Moments of beauty amongst the madness. Sustained intimacy. But also desperation. External factors meant we were in effect clinging to shipwreck.

Any relationship would have faltered.

Dp moved to his home town and I was to follow. I secured an excellent job and was due to move next month. We were going to live together.

It would be a fresh start in every sense, and I thought we could repair us. Heal things and build on the intimacy that was there. There is a hell of a lot of love on both sides. We are good for each other in many many ways. There's a joining of the souls but also meetinG of minds on a very practical level. And we could grow so much together, I think. But that joining of the souls had been worn down to very little because of these external problems. I recognised that we would need to recalibrate but hadn't really realised why or how. And I hadn't talked to him about it as a result,

Dp had a very very tough upbringing and has I think blockages from conveying his emotions, from letting love in. He finds it hard to trust I think, trust that I wouldn't hurt him. I think deep down he thinks I am too good for him and will go eventually,

Last week, he told me that it's been so hard he doesn't think I should come. I feel ina way he associates me with the hard stuff he's been through, I helped him through but have been tarnished by it. We talked for hours. Maybe 8 hours. In the early hours of the morning we both agreed that the relationship hadn't been able to grow naturally because of the external factors. It was too pressurised in a way. I felt obliged to love him through the hard times and to just be there. To show him that love was unconditional as he has never been shown. He felt that because I was supporting him through all of this he should stay in the relationship as he owed me. Things were so hard and our relationship clinging to a shipwreck he said it made hi, question his love for me, whether it was enough. I felt like that too at times. Whether I should just throw the towel in we had been so damaged by things,

Really, we both should have just been friends during this difficult period and then allowed a relationship to develop naturally after we had come through it.

I agreed with everything he said. Absolutely.

When I left to drive home the next morning, he was crying. Gentle tears of huge sadness. I felt strong, that perhaps I should now embark on a new life without him, move away, perhaps travel for a year. This is the damaged part of me. The part that gets hurt and wants to run, cut off. Start again. He knows this about me. I told him and he said I shouldn't make a rash decision. He wanted me to come after all but that we should start again. Let our love grow naturally and see where it took us. I felt a new softness between us.

He's been in contact constantly since then, I can tell he is hugely shaken but doesn't know how to move forward. I don't want to raise my emotions or his again, we have done that so much over the past year. I can't take any more heaviness.

I love him, deeply. There are differences between us. Very great ones. But I have never met a man like him. I see him in a way I think that no one else does. I see a man that is on the cusp, coming through these difficulties, of being the best man he could be, and the man I always though he was and man who I thought I could truly match with.

But after the past year, I am so weakened by it all and I don't know if I have the strength to move and live by myself as I would need to if we were to start afresh.

I also have to protect myself. What if I go and he edges away. I have the chance to move on now and perhaps I should take it and not be distracted.

And if I break off, that's it for us. I can't ever turn back. I would have to absolutely move on. I am mid thirties. I want children and can't be haunted by him as it will scupper my chances with someone else.. But I think that I could have spent a lifetime with this man. And I will love him forever. And I just think that when we are both stronger, when we are natural again with each other. I am the woman for him.

But who knows. Maybe I am being too romantic. Maybe there is no joining of the souls. Maybe it's in my head.

But maybe not. Although there must be many people out there who could match me, maybe I won't find that person who is as special to me as he is.

I am so sorry this is so long. And I wish I could provide more detail.

Please help me. Give me guidance.

OP posts:
Orangeanddemons · 17/05/2015 08:43

Also, I wouldn't want to live with a man who said he wanted to live with me, then didn't, then did.

bunchoffives · 17/05/2015 08:46

Are you both together because you are scared of being lonely on your own?

this book has a lot of sensible advice about being ok on your own and not clinging to shite reltionships because you are afraid of being lonely in spite of huge tears of gentle sadness bollocks

book here

OTheHugeManatee · 17/05/2015 08:46

In my view (and experience) 8 hour relationship discussions are not about understanding and compromise. That can generally be done relatively quickly provided there is good compatibility and you're both listening. 8 hour discussions are about trying to elicit something from the other person, usually because you are both re-enacting earlier wounds. If that's the pattern of your relationship I'm Fraid he is not the love of your life (or luggage) - in fact you are both looking past one another and each using the other to try and heal something from your past. Again: walk away, get some therapy, care for yourself. He won't do it for you, not now, not ever.

SoOverItNow · 17/05/2015 08:49

What are the "external problems" you mention op?

IrenetheQuaint · 17/05/2015 08:51

It sounds like he might be quite tired of the drama and want a break. I'd respect that.

britishbakeoffblues · 17/05/2015 08:53

Are you trying to be Barbara Cartland??!
I agree with lots of other posters.
Stop romanticising it and look it in the cold harsh light of day.
I wouldn't be continuing this relationship!

hilbobaggins · 17/05/2015 09:02

I'm not sure if it's the way you write, but I get the impression that you've been trying to "love" this man into being the man you want him to be, and I don't think that's a good road to go down. The whole thing has a ring of unhealthy co-dependency about it. You're trying to prove to him that unconditional love exists because he's apparently never had it, he has trust issues, he's "on the cusp" of being the man you want due to your love, he's in the relationship because he feels he owes it to you, you're two soul mates clinging to a shipwreck etc etc. I think you've lost sight of where you end and he begins. I've been in this kind of relationship and it's exhausting. If you can't end it once and for all, at least try a separation period and some therapy to find out why you've become so very entangled in this situation.

bluebell345 · 17/05/2015 09:05

too much drama.
you need fun in a relation.
talking with you for 8 hours and telling you not to go there, he is trying to gently letting you go. sorry if this was harsh, but telling you so that you don't get hurt too much later.
he doesn't seem sincere to me.
you need a real man.

whitewithtwo · 17/05/2015 09:07

I'm a romantic and I believe if you truly love each other like you say in your post then there is hope to move forward.

My dp is my 'soulmate' but we've had two relationships. After we broke up you wouldn't think it could work due to the issues we had, however there was such a deep connection that we couldn't seem to let go and remained friends for several years, until we we're both ready to try again. We've been back together for 5 years now, with 2 gorgeous boys, and I can tell you, there is no high drama or serious chats this time. We are very stable and very happy together.

I was extremely nervous when we first got back together, I had been hurt by him before. But I decided to not to bring up the past, only to say, as others have said, that there must be no guilt on either side, and that bring together must be because we both wanted it.

If you love him and will always wonder 'what if' then I would say go with him and give it a chance. But I think you both need to be able to let go of the past and take each other at face value going forward to really have a chance at working things out. There comes a point where you've done all the talking and you just have to get on with living.

PacificDogwood · 17/05/2015 09:10

It all just sounds so exhausting… love or no love, it just does not sound healthy.

DoTheDuckFace · 17/05/2015 09:18

I think you need to step back from all of this and take some time on together own. This relationship will never settle down, it will just swing from drama to drama.

Kvetch15 · 17/05/2015 09:26

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rumred · 17/05/2015 09:45

You've already posted about this and mustn't have liked the advice? The majority are saying don't do it. Here and on your other thread. Stay put and see what happens. He doesn't sound interested

StrongAsAnOx · 17/05/2015 10:03

Unpicking the doubt from all that you have written I see a HUGE issue. You say that you are very different and imply that you have very different family backgrounds. To overcome those compatibility differences you have to be absolutely solid and sure, not of romantic feelings but of your liking of him and his ways. When you have children, things get tough and romance falls to the bottom of the pile. Will your relationship, not as lovers, but as a united parenting team, stand that test?

I wonder if your romantic feelings are also confused by your awareness that you need to find a mate to have children and that he might or might not be the right one. If you were 10 years younger would you make the same investment in him or just go out there to find a new mate?

Last of all: Forward flash yourself to old age. Where do you live and how do you spend each day of your retirement together? Imagine little money and saggy boobs too! Would you wipe the dribble from his mouth?

Blarblarblar · 17/05/2015 10:11

Sorry OP but you sound angsty.
Love is not that hard. I think you may have watched one to many romantic dramas. That's not real.
Take out the language you use and you have a man who doesn't want to live with you no matter what he has said. Words are empty look at how he acts not what he says.

rookiemere · 17/05/2015 10:18

I agree with strongas - I think a lot of this soul searching and trying to make things work emanates from your age, but to be frank bringing DCs into the emotional power keg that you've got going on would be utter madness.

Long and short of it is that your (ex)DP doesn't want you to move with him to his new location and job, you can invent whatever reasons you like for it - but this one about you being too good for him does seems like something people trot out when they are trying to split up with someone without hurting their feelings.

I'm sure both you and your (ex)DP are lovely people, but you know that bit of you telling you to go travel and take a bit of a break - that's the part I'd listen to. Go away and do some things for yourself, try to forget about relationships for a while and find some inner contentment.

PacificDogwood · 17/05/2015 10:20

"It's not you, it's me" - a phrase trotted out to save feelings, but doesn't actually.

Go see the world, lionsmane, go roar! Grin

discophile · 17/05/2015 10:22

Perhaps there are differences between you that you are not being clear about? Are you of a similar age? Are your backgrounds extremely different? Do you have cultural differences? It sounds to me like there is a big difference between you that you are trying to hide (from us and from yourself) with all the over-analysis. It's difficult to advise without some practical facts.

MrsSheRa · 17/05/2015 10:24

There's been too many problems, you're both trying too hard. It's time to bring it to an end.
As a few posters have said, you're over romanticising the relationship.
Get out there and live your life, the both of you. It will be painful but necessary.

Lovingfreedom · 17/05/2015 10:26

Doubt this a guy you're going to settle and have kids with. If you do life will be one huge melodrama for them too.

BitOutOfPractice · 17/05/2015 10:31

Gosh- are you this melodramatc in RL OP?

It all sounds like very hard work - for both of you

shirleybasseyslovechild · 17/05/2015 10:36

I think he's not that into you. sorry to be frank

daisychain01 · 17/05/2015 10:47

It does seem like paralysis by analysis.

When a relationship feels like it's sapping the very life out of you and making you too exhausted to tackle day to day practicalities, it is time to bale out.

No way would I bring a child into the world in those circumstances, in such emotional and practical instability.

lionsmane33 · 17/05/2015 10:56

Thanks for all your replies. I am a bit embarrassed to be honest. A couple of people have asked what the differences between us are that I haven't raised. I am Muslim and am expected to marry a Muslim man. I guess this was always my difficulty. And still will be as I can't remove my faith. I will end it. if I could ask that no one posts on here again as I want to put this behind me now. Sorry.

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trackrBird · 17/05/2015 10:56

Yes, you are being too romantic, but I think you know this already.

Dp had a very very tough upbringing and has I think blockages from conveying his emotions, from letting love in. He finds it hard to trust I think, trust that I wouldn't hurt him. I think deep down he thinks I am too good for him and will go eventually

I felt obliged to love him through the hard times and to just be there. To show him that love was unconditional as he has never been shown.

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