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What advice would you give Sally Bercow?

81 replies

Hadron21 · 11/05/2015 16:44

She's been having an affair with her husbands cousin, who has dumped her (gone back to his wife) and she claims to be heartbroken.
I've never like the woman, but there's something about this story that makes me pity her. If I was married to her and she announced she wanted to go on Big Brother I would have run for the hills at that point.

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littlejessie · 12/05/2015 09:24

Have a heart folks. Be kind - very few of us are whiter than white.

angelos02 · 12/05/2015 09:25

She is massively out of her husband's league. Some self-esteem issue must have caused her to marry him

thehumanjam · 12/05/2015 09:30

Have a heart?

I wouldn't condemn her. I've never understood the outrage that is expressed on MN with regards to infidelity. But I do think there is a case of double standards on MN regarding affairs. A man is an absolute shit with no morals whatsoever but a woman needs 'help' and understanding.

I have no opinion on the marriage of SB and JB. I'm not living their life.

Bakeoffcake · 12/05/2015 09:33

theHuman It's not the fact she's had an affair which prompts me to say she needs help.

It's the things she is saying, the crying in the street, the fact she has had a go at the woman whose H she's had an affair with.

She is behaving in a manner which suggests she needs help.

iHAVEtogetoutofhere · 12/05/2015 09:37

I too think she needs professional help.
She seems unable or unwilling to stop this self destructive cycle she is in.
Professional help should sort out which of those it is.
Whilst receiving this help it would be wise to stop drinking and cut contact with press.

Cherryapple1 · 12/05/2015 09:51

My sympathy lies with her husband and her cousin's wife tbh. I can find very little compassion for a cheat. But she clearly needs help.

MaMaof04 · 12/05/2015 09:54

Self-destructive? not sure. Bent on destroying her cousin (by alliance)'s family? That is what her behavior indicates:
1- Alan dumped her - went back to his wife and kids- we do not know whether he disclosed or not the affair- but it is clear that he wants to rebuild his marriage-
2- Sally is not happy ('heartbroken'? does she know what it means at all)- and (ab)uses her H's fame to publish her affair with Alan and her love for him for all to see.
3- Sally succeeded in making it difficult for Alan and his dignified wife to rebuild their marriage.
4- Moreover Sally is embarrassing all the kids involved: Alan's kids and John's kids.
So who needs help here?
Alan's wife and John and all the kids involved- I should think.

But of course we can blatantly see the double standards of some MN posters and our of society:
*The betrayer is a bastard if he is a man, and if his wife must LTB and the OW -his betrayal accomplice- needs help;

  • the betrayer needs help if he is a woman- and the wife of the OM- her betrayal accomplice- should LTB. (For some the betrayer is even 'interesting/courageous' if 'it' is a woman and goes out to publish her story.)
JohnFarleysRuskin · 12/05/2015 10:02

Sally Bercow has always come across as someone very lost, very needy, and absolutely desperate for attention. That she would behave in this way therefore comes as no surprise.

I'd suggest more counseling, less twittering.

Lemonylemon · 12/05/2015 10:56

My advice? Just shut the fuck up. About everything. Nobody wants to know. You are embarrassing yourself, you always have.

sadwidow28 · 12/05/2015 11:28

Sally Bercow has tried to build a media career on the back of her husband's position as Speaker in the House of Commons.

  • the bed sheet photos (which JB is alleged to have 'read the riot act about'
  • Part of Celebrity Big Brother House (2011) - she was NOT a celebrity
  • Did spin-off programmes with Paddy (the Irish Traveller who won CBB that year)
  • Twitter presence that named a victim in a child-abuse abduction case (2012)
  • Twitter presence which lead to her being sued by Lord McAlpine (2013)

My advice? Shut up and find some dignity so that your husband and children can heal.

A pp mentioned Danzcuk - yes, I think she is going down the same route. She also has small children. However, her husband appears to be very supportive of her attempts to get into the media because he re-tweets every time his wife appears in the media: www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/437435/Karen-Danczuk-boobs-Labour-Simon-Danczuk-MP

MrsMarigold · 12/05/2015 11:33

Restraint is a useful quality.

littlejessie · 12/05/2015 14:08

I agree restraint is an admirable quality!

Just don't believe in kicking someone when they are (very obviously) down, regardless of her many poor choices. I actually feel sorry for her.

bigfatfailure15 · 12/05/2015 21:39

in the shop earlier she was gurning on the front of a paper going "leave me john or ill leave you!" ...my cringe pipes have burst!.

AlphaBravoHenryFoxtons · 13/05/2015 00:14

Advice for Sally Bercow

Why don't you try for the Labour leadership? You'll be great.

JoanHickson · 13/05/2015 00:46

Stop hurting innocents, if you can't, go and have a spell in some nice private rehab type facility. Do not return until you stop hurting people.

OsloGin · 13/05/2015 00:53

So self-destructive! I agree that knowing when to shut up would be a start.
Do we know that she went to the press, or did they tell her they were going to run a story and gave her the chance to cooperate? (With the thought that it might somehow be better for her?)

trackrBird · 13/05/2015 01:46

I'd ask her to call on friends for help, and book a therapist, so she can talk to someone soon.
I'd tell her the media is no-one's friend, and that confiding in the media ends badly.

...She's called her husband amazing and a great Dad.....which gives me a sinking feeling somehow. But she needs a helping hand to get herself out of this mess.

Hadron21 · 13/05/2015 03:20

I agree - she needs a good friend right now.

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mkz10 · 13/05/2015 04:25

She definitely comes across as someone who has MH issues, she needs to shut up and someone get her the help she needs.

To be fair, the 'cousin' husband and wife, don't come across very nice either. The h leaving the wife and setting up with his cousins wife in the marital home, then the wife smirking and fist pumping when the husband returns. I think their marriage is on a very slippery slope too.

They all seem fame hungry.

rootypig · 13/05/2015 04:52

Her taste in men is Confused - ok JB seems a cheery enough wee chap - but the cousin is Envy - just boak inducing.

derxa · 13/05/2015 06:18

It all looks like some weird sort of publicity stunt. None of it makes any sense. I agree with rootypig. The cousin is boak inducing.( 'Boak' is a Scottish word. Is it in common general usage now?)

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CheersMedea · 13/05/2015 16:21

I read in the paper that the wife of the man SB cheated with punched the air when speaking to the media.

I thought that was utterly vile. It buys into a culture of "winning a man". I don't think she should be punching the air about anything myself - but I thought it says a lot about our society that she sees herself as a victor as against SB - where actually the person who owes her loyalty is the ugly little man standing next to her who cheated on her with his own cousin's wife. Nice.

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