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Brief (ish!) history of an awful few months...what do I do now?

29 replies

freeper · 06/05/2015 17:25

I have posted before and NC as my name was known. I am posting again as I feel completely desperate today and just need to talk/not feel so alone/get some perspective. Sorry if any is a repeat, I just want to give a full picture.

My DP of 2.5 years recently announced that he wanted to work abroad for 10 months. Prior to this, my job moved me 1.45 hours from where we currently lived. My DP KNEW this would happen since the day he met me (it was a contract due to start 2 years in advance of the offer). We talked about it when we lived together and he agreed that he would want to live half way when my new job started. I had moved to where he lived, to live with him, where he had a 20 min drive to work. As the months led up to my new job starting, I asked if he wanted to start looking at new places to move to, in the middle, as discussed. This would give him a 40 minute commute, and me 1.10 minute commute - which I was happy with. 2 months before we were due to move, he said he couldnt cope with moving, didnt want to move to a new area without friends, didnt want a 'long' commute etc. I was frustrated as I felt he had let me know a bit last minute.

I moved away to do this job - without outing myself, I had little choice but to take the job as it pretty much trains me for a career and is very competitive. Worth mentioning that I suggested to DP that I find a similar role where we lived at the time (though it would have been hard to find, i wanted to try), and his response was 'don't do that for me, you've worked for this.' Wasnt sure how to take that.

When we started living apart, I saw DP very little. This isn't to say that he made 0 effort. He came to visit at weekends (he was in a houseshare and I wasnt), but often elected to work weekends and so had to cancel. He would often cancel on the Tuesday and then I wouldnt see him that weekend. It was frustrating and upsetting as often I was left without weekend plans, as we had made them together and then he 'had to work.' He blamed this on his job and the nature of it. I know he was working, there is no question of that (ie he wasnt seeing anyone else), but this was one of the reasons i wanted to live in the middle as i KNEW these kinds of things would happen with his job, as they did when we lived together, but obviously then we had week nights together.

As the months went on he agreed it was unsustainable to live like we were. He suggested we moved to the middle. He went to look at places after work and we choose somewhere. A day before we were due to sign on the place, he said he wanted to back out because it was 'too soon since we last moved,' it would be 'too expensive,' and he 'was tired of it and needed a rest.' Needless to say I was shocked, hurt, disillusioned with us. At this point he told me he wanted a 2 week break and he wanted to speak but wouldnt be visitng me. Instead he went out with friends and pretty much ignored me for 2 weeks. I was heartbroken and confused...I needed his support after how much he had messed me about, not for him to do that.

He later apologised for all this and said he looks back and realises how stupid he was and how much strain it put on us as a couple. A couple of months later, he said he wanted to actually move. We started looking at places - again - then weeks later he said he wanted to take a job abroad for 10 months. He said it was bad timing in light of everything else and he understood i was upset/hurt/confused/lost. I have felt like I have no choice but to accept the situation...I don't want to force someone to not do something like that.

He has also done/said some things that have made me worry. In a recent argument he said 'being selfish makes people happy so that's what i'm going to do, be selfish.' (in relation to the work abroad). He claims it was said in anger, but it was said calmly so I wonder... he also told me I could use his car while he worked abroad, and I relied on that so didnt take out a lease for one which i could have done, and then out of the blue said he had changed his mind.

He has now said he wants me to have his car and that he will contribute towards rent and will help buy furniture for us for when he returns, in order to make some sort of commitment to us. He wants to see one another regularly and will pay the bulk of the visits. He says he wants to make things work and constantly talks about marriage, kids etc. I feel so conflicted. I love him, but feel like he is incredibly unstable, and part of me thinks if I give this a go now, will I end up in the same place a year on...no husband, no kids, no home...because ultimately, he will do as he pleases, as he has always done? Probably not relevant but his parents were much later in life when they settled down and had him, and have since divorced, and his mum is very very anti relationships/pro the single life, to the point at which I feel my DP has been brought up to think a lot of how he he treated me has been normal.

I am completely conflicted and lost.

OP posts:
whothehellknows · 06/05/2015 17:32

I remember one of your previous posts. I have to ask, why pin your hopes on a guy who has let you down so many times? Let go, move on with your life and have fun. If he wants you, it's up to him to chase you. You've done more than enough running.

TheOldWiseOne · 06/05/2015 17:32

How old are the pair of you?

freeper · 06/05/2015 17:34

both late twenties - he is a year older than me.

OP posts:
Radiatorvalves · 06/05/2015 17:38

How old are you? To be honest, I would move on. Let him go abroad and enjoy life without him.

I say that as someone who lived apart from DP, now DH, for a long time due to Forces commitments. Your bf sounds like a commitment phobe.

TheOldWiseOne · 06/05/2015 17:44

OK yes I would agree - let him go off to do what he wants to and you get on with your great job opportunity. He can't make up his mind currently and you can't force him to so say "On you go" . He is continually letting you down. Maybe some time on his own might help him decide but I wouldn't hold my breath.

IggyStrop · 06/05/2015 17:51

I remember your other threads. I think the advice on them was fairly unanimous? I'm sorry, he's really not committed to you.

dollius · 06/05/2015 17:54

I said this on your last thread. He has let you down and changed his mind so many times, why on earth would you now put yourself in a position where you were relying on him?

You know how this will pan out. You will rent a place you can't afford on your own, he will make vague promises about paying the rent and then he will CHANGE HIS MIND and LET YOU DOWN just as he always has.

Why put yourself through that? I mean, really, why?

This man is not serious about you and you need to start planning your life without him in it" at the moment your life is on hold, in limbo. It's no way to live and you deserve so much more.

MatildaTheCat · 06/05/2015 18:00

Sorry you are so upset. I've seen your other threads and doesn't sound like much has changed? You have to decide whether you will wait for his work abroad to finish and come back to you or else cut your losses.

Fwiw, I would wait on the basis that he really does come back after the period agreed. Could you not go there as his partner and work there.? If the he wants ore time it may be time to call time on this. However, he hasn't done that much wrong. He's confused for sure. You sound even more confused. Talk, talk and talk and make some clear agreements. If he is serious he will listen and commit. Not just car and furniture type commitment, proper long term relationship stuff. You can push him on this, you have little to lose.

I hope it works out for you.

WhoNickedMyName · 06/05/2015 18:01

post as many times as you like with as many name changes as you want - the advice will still be the same.

nobody here has a magic wand, he'll never be the partner you want him to be.

There's only you that can change your situation, if you don't then we'll see you on here in a few years time... same old, same old.

pocketsaviour · 06/05/2015 18:01

Echoing the others: you've already had all the advice in the world and it was pretty unanimous. What are you hoping to hear this time?

Here's one option: tell him to go off abroad and enjoy his time, but while he's away the two of you will not be in a relationship and each free to see other people. No heart-rending Skypes or phone calls, just occasional chatty emails if you feel like it. When he comes back, you'll agree to meet and talk and see how things stand. No strings, no pressure. If it's meant to be, you'll still be as up for it in 10 months as you were before. If it's not, you'll both have moved on.

eddielizzard · 06/05/2015 18:03

you keep giving him chances in the hope that he'll turn into the person you want him to be. it's not going to happen.

seriously, cut your losses and find someone who will be committed to you. i know you want it to be him, hence many threads, but it's not him. you don't need to start another thread to check, start living your life. stop making plans around him.

he just told you who he was: SELFISH. best thing you can do is take him at his word.

FrankTurnersGuitar · 06/05/2015 18:05

It's not going to work, he is more important to himself.
You meanwhile are bending yourself into all kind of shapes in order to fit in with him.
Take your self respect and enjoy a life without him in it.

springydaffs · 06/05/2015 18:12

You need to look at what he does, not want he says, because what he does is shouting loud and clear that he has no intention of committing to you.

He does what he pleases, convinced that 'selfishness brings happiness' (all the best with that then).

He is loudly displaying his intentions, op. He worries about how his [blatantly selfish] choices are impacting on 'us' but what he really means is 'him'. He shows no regard for how his [blatantly selfish] choices have impacted in YOU. And they have really fucked you over time and again; you're stretched to the limit, sand under your feet. It looks very much that he is keeping you on the back burner in case something better comes along.

Please p-l-e-a-s-e get out. You have little kids in your wake: do it for them if you can't do it for yourself. They need a happy, calm mum not a totally strung out banshee.

AWholeLottaNosy · 06/05/2015 18:13

What's that saying? When someone shows you who they are, believe them. I haven't read your other threads but just from this I can see that he's not really committed to you. My biggest regret in life ( I'm now 50), is wasting my time in my twenties with men who were, in hindsight, a total waste of time. You can't change him and yes, he is selfish. Let him go. At your age there are still plenty of lovely men to date and have a future with. The older you get the harder it becomes....

AttilaTheMeerkat · 06/05/2015 18:15

I will give you the same counsel as all the other times you have written about him. This is not working out and never will either; he regards himself and his own mother more highly than you.

This was really over long ago, it should never have dragged on as long as this has done. So why has it?.

He will not and also cannot be the person you want him to be; he is not built that way. He is also not your project or "fixer upper" for you to improve.

Allalonenow · 06/05/2015 18:17

I remember one of your earlier threads, and would say the same again to you.
He isn't interested in a committed relationship with you, but he's too much of a coward to say that to you.

Let him go off to the far side of the world, don't have any financial ties with him such as rent or a car.

Set yourself free to develop your career, have some fun, enjoy life, you are only twenty something.

He won't come back, or if he does you will both have grown up in the meantime, and you will see clearly that he is not what you want or need.

Take care OP, you sound a lovely generous natured person who deserves better than this no hope guy. Thanks

FuckingLiability · 06/05/2015 18:19

I also remember your other threads and clearly nothing has changed.

He couldn't make it more obvious unless he skywrote it in 100 foot high letters with purple smoke.

HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU. HE DOES NOT WANT TO COMMIT TO YOU.

Stop wasting your life on someone who has done nothing but let you down.

Bin. Move on.

inlectorecumbit · 06/05/2015 18:48

Without a doubt let him go -get on with your own life.
He seems very indecisive and you don't seem to be on the same page with this relationship.

AWholeLottaNosy · 06/05/2015 18:50

One more thing. This is a bit cheesy but in my younger days there was one bit of advice I read in Cosmo magazine and it always stayed with me during a breakup and I'm going to share it with you now. It is, "there's always someone else" . And believe me, there will be....

Momagain1 · 06/05/2015 20:01

This is the most extreme case of dorrmattery I have ever heard of.

Dump him.
He is never ever ever ever going to be any different than he is now.
Dump him.
He has been jerking your strings for 2.5 years.

Dump him.
Don't let him carry on.
Dump him.

He is an asshole of the first degree, and all of the current nonsense about a place where you can have your joint stuff and collect for future needs is just more bullshit because actually splitting with you would mean he has to actually deal with shit. You are being set up as a storage unit with the possibility of a good shag before he goes/if he moves back. move along to a place you can afford, conveniently located for you, taking only your stuff. His stuff can go with him, go to his parents, go to a storage unit, but not with you. Tell him to call you when he gets back and if it seems right, you can make joint living arrangement plans then, but that he should expect to move back to his parents or a bedsit not withyou.

Christinayangstwistedsister · 06/05/2015 20:09

He is a commitment phobic, everytime you get near a commitment he pulls away but gives you just enough to keep you holding on

Dowser · 06/05/2015 20:52

I hope you've heard that loud and clear OP

A man who loves you runs towards you....not away from you like this chump is doing.

If you were your daughter. Come on. What would you say to her?

BeyonceRiRiMadonna · 06/05/2015 21:47

Oh dear God...I feel so sorry for you because you're still contemplating holding on to this time waster, after all he's done?? You have the patience of a Saint, I would've dumped him a loooooong time ago.

He will never commit to you. A man that wants you, that is ready to commit will move heaven and earth to be with you, this man doesn't!

Sorry OP. The sooner you make the decision to walk away the sooner you will open yourself up to finding the man for you. GOOD LUCK

BeyonceRiRiMadonna · 06/05/2015 21:52

....and by the way, The only reason he's "offering" you his car is not because he cares about you, he's shown you time after time he doesn't, it's because you are convenient to keep around to tax, insure, drive and maintain his car whilst he's away.

mynewpassion · 06/05/2015 22:10

Look, he's not ready to commit or settle down at the moment. Be it influences from his mother or his own personal desire to experience as much as possible without having any regrets.

You can wait for him or let him go. Regardless he's going.