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How do I respond to this? It is what it is - but still!

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ChocDee · 26/04/2015 07:49

I have no real relationship with my mother at all. Huge back story but basically she decided when I was about 11 that she was done with parenthood and was very much looking forward to me and my sister leaving home.
Single mother, my father left when I was very young; she moved back to her home country. Married a very abusive man and did nothing (in my opinion) to try and protect me and my sister. It was once she finally left him that she stopped being a 'mother'; not that she was much of one before that. Love, yes; she did give that but absolutely nothing else.
I had to leave home at 15 due to logistics of getting to school and she told everyone how happy she was that both her daughters had left home.
Meanwhile I was living on my own in my grandparents apartment (they lived elsewhere) in a different town from where I went to school. Not super great to be honest.

I went to visit her occasionally and she really did not make much of an effort then either.

So when after a year, when I went to visit my father in the uk I ended up staying and not going back. I was very angry with her and we did not speak for a year. I think I had to do that clean break in order to fully acclimatise myself into England. It was a big change having to learn the language above what I had learnt at school and to slot into my father's family as well as taking A levels in a school system very different from where I grew up.

Through the next 3 years we very slowly began to try and build a relationship but that broke down when memories from my childhood and the stepfather came back.
We did not speak for a couple of years and then slowly got back in contact.
It was very nice; but then my grandfather (her father) groped me and that was it in my mind. I did not want to tell her because I thought it would destroy her but I was thoroughly done with that part of my life.
So here we are, many many years later. I do not love her, I pity her that's it.
I have not seen her for about 4 years, speak on skype occasionally. I am kind to her when we speak.

I am moving to the states in a month and half and I have run out of time and money to go and visit her. (I think I was pretending the move would not happen!)

I do not live in the UK so I am going over there to see my family before I go. My sister and I asked our mother to fly over too; we would pay for her ticket and it would be so lovely to see her blah blah blah (my sister has seen her less than me and is very angry with her; I just don't care really).
She does not want to come. She has no clothes. Says she only has one top to wear that she washes every night. She is in too much pain to walk etc etc.

This has made me realise that she is genuinely mentally ill. She is a hoarder like those people on the telly. Me and my husband cleared and cleaned her apartment when we were last there (she was in hospital) but god only know what it is like now. She loves the internet and she is constantly self diagnosing and self medicating because the doctors are no good.
I know this is now ridiculously long. So my question is; how do I respond to her not coming to the uk? Do I say "oh that's a shame" and let her be? I mean, I cannot cure her. She doesn't think she has a problem. And I am moving to America....

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millionsmom · 26/04/2015 07:53

Yes, it is a shame, but it's her choice.

Flowers Go enjoy your new American adventure!
ChocDee · 26/04/2015 07:56

Thank you, I will try!! I have lived there before and did not like it. But hopefully this time round it will be better!

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namechange2015 · 26/04/2015 07:58

What could you do? It sounds incredibly difficult & you don't owe her anything by the sounds of it so enjoy your send off guilt free!

ChocDee · 26/04/2015 08:12

That I will do then! It will be easier and more enjoyable this way too.
My father is heaping on the guilt though; I think he is trying to allocate his own guilt for leaving her for other women/woman.
But for dears sake! My mother chose to marry a foreigner who was driving around in a red E-type car with the registration number VULTURE. How did she ever think that that would end well?!

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mummytime · 26/04/2015 08:58

Be blunt with your father about how your mother neglected/abused you, and how at the time he did little/nothing to protect you. Also tell him clearly if he is so worried then he can do something to help her.

As to the U.S., is it a different area? My top tip would be to join a church etc. if you are religious, if not try to get involved with some voluntary work; Americans on the whole can seem openly friendly but a little harder to really get to know. Maybe try to find a counsellor, asking people for recommendations could even be a door opener to real friends.

ChocDee · 26/04/2015 09:32

Oh, my father knows the full story and he feels guilt in regards to me and my sister as well. I have moved away from all that as well; I know that I love him and my whole English family and my siblings from his new marriage. What works for me is that I expect nothing from them and I do not ask for anything so whatever I get is a bonus!

I had counselling for a full year when it all blew up in my face in my early twenties whilst at university. It really helped me immensely - I found out at the end that I was only entitled to five sessions but I got special dispensation. They really must have thought I was a basket case, or it may have been that I was prepared to put the work in in order to come to terms with the whole sorry mess!

Yes, we are moving to a different area in the us. We have been over and bought a small farm of all things! I feel more positive about it, not having close neighbours and it is not a part of a military community (my husband is an army boy).

Your church suggestion is a good idea but it is a no go for me unfortunately. Organised religion makes me a bit cross. Ironically I married a preacher kid!

But I am a keen potter and I will be able to begin to sell my stuff in earnest and maybe start teaching what I do as well. The job he is taking is only for 2-3 years and after that he retires and the world will be our oyster!

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ChocDee · 26/04/2015 09:37

Oh, and regards to counselling you are making a lot of sense there as well. It would obviously do me good as I firmly believe it would do for absolutely anyone in this world. But to be honest it would be a bit self indulgent. I am happy, I am very sorted in my head and I understand my own feelings. I just don't tell other people much. My youth made me very emotionally independent. I do not expect anyone to make me happy. That is totally up to me - and I am! (As long as I don't maudle on what was!)

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mummytime · 26/04/2015 10:11

Well maybe try to find an artists group to get some moral support (and handy for information on craft shows etc.). Being part of the community is important in the U.S., if you can manage it. I hope you have a great few years.

ChocDee · 26/04/2015 15:07

Thank you! Fingers crossed that it works out ok.
I still haven't replied to my mother, but I'll get round to it once I find the right words.

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