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Friend's dh asked me to have a threesome with him and a mistress

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bonnieparker · 18/04/2015 05:12

Really need advice. About a month ago I had an email from my friend's husband, boldly asking me to have an S&M threesome with him and his mistress. He didn't come out with his identity at first... it was a series of emails from an anonymous address. (It was quite out of the blue and I let my dh read along from the start... didn't want it to become something between us, but definitely wanted to find out who was behind the emails!) The background is that this man and I were friends over ten years ago, and had a rather obvious mutual crush, but I was engaged and nothing came of it. I set him up with my wonderful friend, and they got married. It's really a strange twist of fate because, when my husband cheated a few years ago, this man's wife was one of a few confidants that I could count on. She is one of the most thoughtful, non-judgmental, kind people I know and was the perfect person to hold my hand through some gut-wrenching times. During those conversations she said she would forgive her husband if he cheated...she would not want to be divorced if the marriage could be saved. She helped me have the courage to work it out with my own husband, and we are doing well now. So now, I know this horrible thing. I told him his wife needs to know what he's up to, and that being honest with her would be the best thing he could do. He said he would talk to her. But it's been a month and I know she doesn't know. I'm racked with guilt because I've been through this in my own marriage. She deserves to know what's happening... it's her life, too. But he said he will talk to her and I don't want to insert myself if they can work it out on their own. What would you do??

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MyFriendsCallMeOh · 18/04/2015 05:17

Where do your loyalties lie? Give him a tight timescale (literally days, he's had long enough) to tell her, once that's passed, tell her yourself.

Archduke · 18/04/2015 05:18

Blimey. What an gold plated fucker your friend has for a husband.

Archduke · 18/04/2015 05:19

What does your husband think of your friend emailing you such suggestions? If my dh was receiving such offers I would go round sharpish and tell whoever it was to fuck right off.

bonnieparker · 18/04/2015 05:21

My loyalties are 100% with her. It's just that I know how much she is enjoying this time. She's just stepped back from her job to be with her kids more. They are adding onto their home. It kills me because I know it's awful timing. But I also know that she needs to know. I know how horrible it is to be the last one to know about something that is happening in your own life, but you don't know it. Do I email and just say something like, "you have a week to tell her or I will?" That's unlike me. But I hate living with it and he put me in this position directly.

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bonnieparker · 18/04/2015 05:23

My husband and I actually thought it was a bit of fun at first. It was kind of funny, even a little sexy at first, reading the emails together. He pretended to not be a part of my social circle, but rather someone who knew me a bit, and admired me a lot. I am glad I showed my dh the first email right away, so it's not something weird between us as well.

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FeijoaSundae · 18/04/2015 05:47

Did this man honestly think you would say yes?

What does that say about his opinion of you...?

That ^^ would be the thing that would anger and upset the most out of all of this. What an absolute low life, basically chaeating on, and insulting people left, right and centre.

bonnieparker · 18/04/2015 05:52

He referenced conversations we'd had more than a decade ago when we'd been friends. Apparently he has been thinking about those conversations ever since. He said I seemed "carefree"... of course... I was 25! He says he knows I am a good person but wondered if I was up for one more adventure. etc etc. It was crazy, asking me now, so many years after we were close, with us both married. He pretended not to know I'm close with his wife. So stupid.

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FeijoaSundae · 18/04/2015 06:03

Clearly he's not going to tell his wife that he has a mistress, and that he propositioned you for a threesome.

Clearly he is going to carry on lying to his wife, going behind her back, and letting her lead a sham life.

So either she carries on in blissful ignorance, you tell her, or you step away from both of them. Those are the three options. Which is the least awful one for you?

Isetan · 18/04/2015 07:02

Some random emailing you about threesomes is considered sexy? Confused.

There's never a good time to hear that your H is propositioning your friend for threesomes with his mistress. You know he's not going to tell his wife, she will either hear it from you, find out some other way or she'll remain in the dark. If you think she should know, the only way of ensuring that is to tell her.

LineRunner · 18/04/2015 07:05

The whole thing sounds very weird.

Aussiemum78 · 18/04/2015 07:09

How do you know it's definitely him? Could be a prank, it sounds far fetched? I'm surprised you even replied.

RL20 · 18/04/2015 07:14

How close are you to the woman? It's a difficult one. Does your husband know who it is now? Unless your a guilty party too and have been replying to the man, I would tell your husband who it is and see what he thinks.
If you feel that you're very good friends with the woman, it's probably going to be best to tell her because 1) incase it's actually a test, a set-up (least likely, probably) and 2) if she happens to find out by reading the emails, and realising you, as her friend, never said anything about it.
The only time I probably wouldn't say anything was if she wasn't a friend of mine, in which case you stop/don't reply to the emails and let him carry on thinking he is a sex god.

headlesslambrini · 18/04/2015 07:15

Could his 'mistress' be his wife? Maybe they didnt want to give too much away until they knew whether or not you would be interested.

Variousrandomthings · 18/04/2015 07:19

I would probably ask him if he had told her yet as you were planning to chat about it with her when you see her next weekend

Eustasiavye · 18/04/2015 07:34

This is difficult.

Are you absolutely certain that your friend doesn't know?

She has claimed an affair would not mean the end of her marriage so canyou be sure that she isn't aware of the ow?

If she doesn't know I doubt that he is going to tell her which leaves you in a difficult position.

You have to then decide whether to tell her or not.

Lumobile · 18/04/2015 08:01

This isn't just a threesome. This is an S&M threesome.

This sounds very weird to me. Why would you even engage in email exchanges like this?
This bit is stalker-ish : " He pretended to not be a part of my social circle, but rather someone who knew me a bit, and admired me a lot. I am glad I showed my dh the first email right away, so it's not something weird between us as well."
Some random bloke emails a woman about having an S&M threesome and her own DH goes along with it. What IS that?

No advice to add, except I do very much like Various's suggestion. Do it. Let us know what happens.

WildBillfemale · 18/04/2015 08:17

Some random emailing you about threesomes is considered sexy? confused.

It seems you found this flattering on some level replied and are now over invested.
It's weird.

Weebirdie · 18/04/2015 08:25

I suspect its his wife who's done the emailing. Maybe to test the water and see if you are up for such a fun evening Hmm or simply to see if you can be trusted with her husband.

elQuintoConyo · 18/04/2015 08:25

So, you e-mailed back and forth and had a laugh about it with your DH?

That's awful. Those aren't the actions of a good friend.

Email him that you're telling her Sunday evening. She needs to know.

FenellaFellorick · 18/04/2015 08:31

I agree. Not only is he a first class basted to be doing this to his wife but he thinks you're someone who would behave like him too! I'd be angry and offended.

ThePinkOcelot · 18/04/2015 09:10

This reeks of bullshit to me!

pocketsaviour · 18/04/2015 12:54

I'm having difficulty working this one out.

Someone who you think is an (online?) acquaintance emails you and asks you to take part on a 3-way BDSM scene.

You show the email to your husband and with his blessing continue talking.

Are you on Fetlife or something? And your friend's H knows this and hence why he's specifically asking you?

Because I can't see any way that this email would just come randomly out of the blue and a) not land in your junk folder and b) you'd think it was a turn on rather than a gross intrusion.

Twinklestein · 18/04/2015 13:46

PocketSaviour has covered what I was going to say.

I can't imagine receiving an anonymous email inviting me to take part in S&M and not junking it immediately. Let alone getting turned on by it.

Either you're on a sex site, or there's something you're not telling us, or its all bollocks.

DCITennison · 18/04/2015 13:49

Gosh, how very odd.

bonnieparker · 18/04/2015 14:14

Of course I wish now that I hadn't replied. If I am honest I felt oddly flattered. It felt nice to be the center of attention in that way, and a change from the normal Saturday night. I felt okay with replying because it's wasn't behind my husband's back...and I did want to figure out who was sending the email. Anyway, it was childish and stupid, but here we are now. I in no way betrayed my friend. There was zero engagement past the moment when he gave his identity, except that I told him that she deserves to know what is happening in her own marriage. That being open with his wife is the only way forward, and could possibly be the best thing he ever did. He was contrite and said he would speak to her.

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