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Walk me through your divorce experiences... how to begin...

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pieandmighty · 06/04/2015 10:07

I was kindly advised to repost here in relationships as I'd posted in 'Chat':

Walk me gently through your experiences. I am just about to embark on the first step: talking to a solicitor. This decision has been a long time coming in the few years we've been together.

I came into my union with a child. I remarried a divorced man 15 years my senior who had never had children. We went on to have two kids together.
We've been together six years, married for three. The past two years have not been great but tolerable. Job stress, kid stress, any stress has become a reason for my DH to build up a steady pile of resentment. I just feel disliked. We don't have a sex life at all. I think we're both ok with this. It never comes up in conversation. I am constantly made to feel guilty over money issues. I am a SAHM married to a doctor. I get the kids' clothes at charity shops and I never, I mean never get my hair done, buy new things for myself, etc. I do everything to try and keep costs down. We have our own home but my name is not on the deed or the mortgage and although we drew up a will a couple of years ago, I have actually never seen it. So that's our property issue and it's something I am a bit worried about if we divorce.

I know why I am not on the deed or the mortgage. I have excellent but very limited credit (one card). I am not from here originally so I haven't established a huge amount of credit. Anyway, it was a no brainer. I didn't want to risk not being able to buy a house on account of being a financial burden.

For the past 18 months DH has wanted my elderly mother to sell her house and live with us, giving us the proceeds from her sale in return for looking after her for the rest of her life. She is 80. My mother isn't sure she wants to do this. She also has my other siblings to consider. Basically, DH has said if she doesn't buy in with us, then she can no longer come to stay on extended visits (she comes from the States for about 3 months at a time). It's been hurtful to process this and my thinking is that now that it's dawning on him that he won't be getting a chunk of money from my mother to pay for our house, he is losing interest in me... or at least, I have become a liability. He couldn't make it more clear that he resents supporting me and his stepchild. He is ok with our two kids but not with my child from my first marriage. It's sad to be part of a cliche I never envisioned when we first met.

I am rambling but honestly, I can't see the forest for the trees. I am only guessing that my mother not buying in with us is a reason he's gone off me. We don't talk about any issues. We can't. Everything and I mean everything becomes an argument. My son and I just avoid engaging with him. I cook, I clean, I look after the house, the kids... I honestly do my part and I do earn my keep for sure. But every day is a battle ground. When I hear the key in the lock in the evening, my heart sinks. Having him home for the long weekend has been so heavy on all of us. He just must have his way at all times and there is no middle ground, no compromise. I feel so trapped, so lonely and so afraid. I would walk tomorrow if I could, but I have so little money of my own and nowhere to go. I don't want to destabilise the kids either and just do a runner. I want to plan this well so that it's not too terribly traumatic.

Where do I begin? Many thanks for reading.

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KiaOraOAotearoa · 06/04/2015 10:30

Getting all your ducks in a row would be the first step, I think.
Make sure you have your own bank account, that your car insurance is on your name, that your name is on bills. Get a job (he can pay for the childcare for his two) reasonably well paid. Bring your mother over-don't let him dictate, that's emotional abuse. Basically, start living as if you were a single parent.
Take up exercise and build your own social circle.
Look, I am an educated woman, quite strong and have been to hell and back more than once in my life. But nothing helps me more than my war paint. I can't explain it, but I can be falling apart at the seams in a spectacular way-I put some make up on and by back goes straight and my chin up. I don't look sorry, I don't feel sorry for myself and I tackle it all, always did.
Sorry you're going through this.
You know the difference between a doctor and God? God doesn't think he's a doctor.

KiaOraOAotearoa · 06/04/2015 10:31

Oh, and find out who she is.

AtomicDog · 06/04/2015 10:37

I saw your post in chat, and you just sounded so sad. I can't help I'm afraid, no experience, but I wanted to offer sympathy and good wishes.
Good luck Flowers

pocketsaviour · 06/04/2015 13:30

Basically, DH has said if she doesn't buy in with us, then she can no longer come to stay on extended visits
Wow, what a money-grubbing wankbadger. So sorry OP.

I suggest ringing several solicitors in the local area and make appointments to see several for initial half-hour free consultations. This will help you decide which one seems most interested and efficient.

You will be entitled to a share of the house, even though your name is not on the deeds, I can tell you that much. A solicitor will advise you in more detail what you would be entitled to, and how much maintenance he would need to pay for the children (significantly more than he's currently giving you, at a rough guess.)

Does he practise privately or on the NHS? Do you know his annual salary?

Georgethesecond · 06/04/2015 13:35

Do you think you could work through the issues if you went to cooutselling together? Are you sure they are insurmountable?

pieandmighty · 06/04/2015 21:08

Thank you kindly for your helpful, insightful replies. I don't think there is another woman. I had wondered but I don't think so, not out of arrogance or ignorance but because he seems to spend all of his down time here at home. His OW is on an online porn site somewhere in the ether. I am done with being angry about that. Too many fights and broken promises have finally fatigued me into a place where I don't really care if he is watching porn.

He is NHS not private. He thinks he's God, for sure. Wink

I know his earnings because we get a portfolio from his accountant once a year. Otherwise, he doesn't discuss this with me at all. We don't talk figures. We just talk, "don't spend". We never take holidays or spend any time at all together as a family. It makes me sad. Today I was walking through the high road with my kids and families were out and about. All of these couples wanted to be together, wanted to be with their kids. If I go out with DH he speed walks ahead of us to the point of being humped over he's rushing so fast, leaving us trailing behind. It's embarrassing.
It was my birthday recently and it occurred to me that I didn't even wonder why we don't go out for a meal. I didn't wonder until I saw a couple of my friends on FB celebrating with their husbands this past week. I thought, "That's kinda normal. Your marriage is not." But I don't have expectations... until lately. I'm just sort of realising that I don't feel good. I don't feel emotionally safe. I don't feel like he's on my side.
We have both suggested counselling together on several occasions over the past 3 years. But it hasn't happened and it never will. He just wants to put our problems in a hidden place and never touch them. He would rather live a life of curt replies and distance than dare face our issues. It's just depressing. Sorry to be a bummer. Thanks for your help once again.

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Flangeshrub · 06/04/2015 21:15

Your marriage sounds very similar to mine except he got in there first. He had an affair which broke the family apart.

He doesn't like you, respect you or feel much at all for you, like mine didn't for me.

Get out first. I should have.

KatyLovesKats · 06/04/2015 21:51

Your poor thing, your h sound awful. I think you should leave him - but I know that's easy for me to say.

If you ring Women's Aid they may be able to suggest a solicitor - one who has experience of bullying husbands.

I think you need to see a solicitor to find out what you'd be entitled to if you left him. You have grounds for a divorce because of his behavior. You need to know where you would go if you left the family home or whether you could ask him to go.

Sometimes Mediation is suggested. (This is how it was for me). You each get the opportunity to meet the Mediator for an hour separately to tell your side of the story, then you meet her jointly for a few sessions to sort out finances, contact, etc. Your solicitor will explain your options to you.

Would your mum be willing to help you financially? Lend you money to pay for a solicitor, etc?

Do you have friends in real life who could help you?

I rang Citizen's Advice when my ex-h left (I was a SAHM) and found out I was entitled to £600-£700 per month Child Tax Credits and £71 per week Jobseeker's Allowance. This kept me going until our finances were sorted.

I hope that is helpful. I really feel you and your dc will be happy on your own together. Good luck. Let us know how it's going.

pieandmighty · 06/04/2015 21:52

Believe me I am so ready to get out emotionally. But I have to plan here. I am so afraid of putting our 3 kids into a bad financial situation. I don't want them to struggle and end up with a depressed single mother. I've been that person before with my first born. Granted we divorced when he was a tiny baby, so it was tough from the very beginning. I worked two jobs and was still just struggling to get by. I just don't want to go through that again. But then the alternative is not so wonderful either. What's hard emotionally is that I know I am 'less than'. He is a successful, well-educated GP. I left school and started working at the age of 18. I am not 'educated'. I am not a professional. I have just worked, but I have worked hard throughout my life. I am in my 40s now and for the past 5 years I have not worked. There is a real undertone of resentment for the fact that a) I depend on him financially and b) even if I returned to work, I wouldn't earn well.

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pieandmighty · 06/04/2015 21:53

KatyLovesKats, thank you so much! I wrote my message before I'd read yours which is incredibly helpful. Thank you!

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