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Am I going mad or is my husbund cheating?

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Kokeshi80 · 29/03/2015 15:26

Please bear with me I am very new to all this, feeling very scared, shaky, sick, angry, confused tired, sad, tearful etc.....here goes!!!

My hubby has come back from an amazing for him, life changing holiday. He met a whole new group of buddies and is making a massive effort to keep in touch and relive the experience. Which is great for him since he usually sits on his backside drinking in front of the tv. Not interacting with anyone me or the kids or his friends. So I'm thinking this could be great now. We have two children together.

Now, since him being back, he is a lot more chilled out, doesn't stress like he used too all sounds great I know.

I'm not going to go into past stuff between us as it was pretty dark. We have been seeing a counsellor Anyways he seems to have this totally different outlook on life from before.

It all started for me when he sat us down and showed us the beautiful photos of the setting where he went. Then came some pictures of him and some girls!!! Automatically inside I went all defensive, why are they sitting there like that with him? Do they not know he is married? My daughter looked at me in a strange way too. I was manifesting these pictures for a while. Maybe they are innocent maybe not. He even said he wasn't sure to show me incase I got the wrong idea, but he decided to anyway.

I thought one day I would look through his ipad at some photos, found out he had deleted some before his slide show, one of him and a girl in some water cave. Some other close ups of this girl too. Ok again I'm thinking could be completely innocent.
I eventually asked him about the pictures and he said I'm being stupid and he was just having fun with these girls! They are his new friends along with everyone else on the holiday guys and girls. Ok fine.

He has now changed the codes on his phone and iPad, always on the phone messaging people. From 6.30am through to 1am. Saying he is aloud his privacy. Ok cool!! Still making me wonder. As he has never been like this before getting a bit more concerned.

Especially this one particular girl. One weekend he went away, and stayed in a hotel as it was cheaper then getting a cab back. Fair enough, Very shady about his plans when I asked. Was on at me about getting my friends round whilst he was out so I can have a good time too.
When he came back I asked about his weekend. It turned out he was dropped off by this girl at the end of our lane so I didn't get mixed messages, she also came to pick him up when I was out. He only told me because he was spotted.
Then it turned out he shared a room with this girl this weekend away and apparently another guy too. It was a hotel room with two floors??
For some unknown reason I had an urge to check his beside draw and count our condoms. I'd brought a pack of 14 after his hols. We had sex twice so there should have been 12. I counted over and over again still came to ten. My heart is pounding feeling sick to the stomach maybe I got the amount wrong, went to the shop and checked whilst doing my shopping yep definitely 14 pack. So I counted again still ten. After a while once he was back. I thought right I'll check one more time and to my amazement there was 12!!!!!! I got quite angry and just had it out with him. He said I'm so not thorough with stuff I've probably missed counted. Mmmmmmm!!!

There is so much more stuff that's odd going on I don't want to bore you with it all. But I'm now feel I'm turning into some neurotic crazy bunny boiler wife. I have never ever felt this way before it is not me to feel like this.
We have been together for 15 years married 10 this year. He is very secretive about everything he does now. Doesn't really talk to me about anything much anymore apart from how much money he has made at work, and how he wants "cuddles" at night.
He has sworn to me and the counsellor that there is nothing going on. To be honest would he fess up in front of us both? I don't know.

One day I've got going through my head no way is he cheating then something crops up and I'm going backwards again. My moods are so up and down everytime I hear certain songs I cry. He is saying he doesn't know whether he is coming home to me happy or grumpy. I told him I feel insecure and do not trust him he says he is not responsible for my feelings. Well actually in my mind the way he is acting and behaving is making me feel like this so yeah he is responsible.

The past week we ive been making an effort to be intimate, as I'm worried if i don't he will ended up leaving. One night I refused as tired, he said I was so fucking boring then turned over went onto facebook and was back messaging.

I thought this week things were going ok, still having a doubt in my mind but trying not to let it get to me, I have sneakily found out his pass codes and was shocked to find more pictures of this girl, pornsites on his history and some flirty conversation on messenger. Wtf am I to do?

I am now seeing the same councillor on my own until I have worked out what's making me so insecure and not being able to trust people then the plan is to go back to couples counselling after.

So yeah thanks for reading if you got this far. Any advice or similar senarios and outcomes very most welcome.

OP posts:
Kokeshi80 · 29/03/2015 18:10

This is the first time I've ever posted about this. It's taken a bit of guts to do this

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MiniTheMinx · 29/03/2015 18:25

At the very least he is weighing up his options and thinking about cheating. Are you going to do the pick me dance? If you want to pull this back from the brink you need to confront him and see if you can get some honest answers. Be prepared for lots of denials and lies though. Do you think you will be able to see through the bullshit?

MurielWoods · 29/03/2015 18:34

Yes, he is cheating or at least planning to.

It must be a terrible shock for you, what are you going to do?

He sounds like a lazy, ignorant arse btw

AnyFucker · 29/03/2015 19:33

If you haven't posted about him before then it just shows he is following a cheater's script

nothing very original here

the only thing is that it is happening to you and that is shit

you deserve better Thanks

Drumdrum60 · 29/03/2015 22:22

What are you going to do ?

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 29/03/2015 22:32

What do youean about the past being dark? What did he do?
I'd say he's probably cheating, and regardless of that he's abusive.

honeyroar · 29/03/2015 22:59

I agree that if I had met new friends on a holiday I'd want to introduce them to my husband. Even if it was just calling in when they picked him up.

Call his bluff, ask hm to invite his new friend over so that you can put your uneasy feelings to rest. This is a perfectly normal thing to ask. If he is awkward or grumpy about this I would consider it confirmation. I would ask him to move out if he doesn't agree - show him you are serious that this has to stop or he loses you, no wooing him back.

newnamesamegame · 29/03/2015 23:29

I'm afraid it does sound as if he is at the very least having an emotional affair, probably more.

But as others have pointed out, the cheating is almost an irrelevance.

He is lazy, deceitful and very disrespectful towards you and he is a poor role model for your children.

Forget trying to catch him out with condom-counting and the like. He deserves to be left for so many other reasons. You deserve better.

springydaffs · 30/03/2015 12:43

He's playing away. Whether or not he's DTD he hopes to. His heart is playing away.

Get rid. Don't have counselling with a known manipulator. Sounds like he's added precisely zero to your life and is now taking away, big time. Cut your losses, nothing good can come from him. Sorry.

As for her, what a prize she's chasing. She deserves someone like him. Xx

shovetheholly · 30/03/2015 12:52

Oh, Kokeshi, I am so sorry. It does sound like he's having at least an emotional affair with this woman - but I would be surprised if he hasn't also slept with her, given the hotel situation.

I trust you completely on the condoms. He must have removed two. Either he used them, or he stashed them in his wallet intending to use them and never got a chance.

I think in your shoes, I would keep a close eye on those messenger accounts and collect some evidence of an affair. I'd start to get my ducks into line with regard to a possible split - find out your position on the financial side of things, and whether you'd be entitled to any benefits of help if you left. I'd get legal advice about my position, too. You may find out that you're better off, in all ways, without him.

Rivercam · 30/03/2015 12:52

I was thinking the same as Honey - invite his friends around, or next time he plans to meet them, go along as well. Have a babysitter ready so you can go at a moments notice. You don't need to give them the full story -
just say you want to meet hubby's holiday chums.

It may be a case that he's flattered by the woman ( and new friends') attention, and men are capable of having perfectly innocent friendships with the opposite sex. However, I do think you need to integrate yourself into this new group of friends, and see what the reaction is. You probably will be able to tell by his reaction.

CurlyWurlyCake · 30/03/2015 13:19

We are not friends in Facebook as before all this happened he would grab my phone at any opportunity put inappropriate status n my wall and belittle my comments so that's why I had a code on my phone.

WTF?

He is really messing with you. Don't do couples counselling, use your counselling sessions to work out your exit plan tell him to leave

championnibbler · 30/03/2015 13:25

from reading on, its pretty obvious that he has zero respect for you.
as others before me have pointed out.
god, he sounds like a complete prick.
i really think you should dump him.
men like that are life-ruiners.
don't let him ruin yours.

Kokeshi80 · 30/03/2015 13:41

Ok guys, quick question just taken friendofbills advice and checked the product code. 6 condoms have the same product code: lot 0100xxxxxxxx then ends 57B3 there is only one with the same numbers but ends in 57B2 could that one be from the same batch or a different one?

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CharlotteCollins · 30/03/2015 14:07

No point looking for more proof. You already have plenty.

If you get any more proof, he will deny it's important, just like he has with everything so far.

He won't admit what he's doing and give you permission to end it. If you want to do that, you need to be strong and do it anyway.

MNpostingbot · 30/03/2015 16:07

Doesn't read well to be honest, the fact the trust isn't there is a problem in itself. My advice would be to communicate with him, this could still be a good thing for the relationship if nothing sinister is going on.

But.....

"He sounded like a lazy nasty piece of work before the solo holiday if I'm being honest"

That was reply three..... Based on what exactly?! The OP said he was lazy, sat and drank and didn't interact with the kids. Maybe not dad of the year but "nasty piece of work"..based on that evidence??? Think you need to visit the grip shop and get one.

championnibbler · 30/03/2015 18:04

i agree with above:
you have shed loads of proof but you just can't see it yet.
i would call it a day with this loser.

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