What goes around comes around

[kikki]

Does anyone believe in Karma or what goes around comes around? I would like to think that my ex will get his come-up-ance(not sure about the spelling) for all the terrible things he has done to me and our son. The trouble is, it seems to me that he is just waltzing about scot free. I know I shouldn't be sitting around waiting for him to fall from grace but I just get really angry sometimes that he lies and cheats constantly(and not just to me) and yet he never seems to have to answer for it.

No I think it is wishful thinking

sorry some things are too serious for crass comments-i apologize rickman

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I would like to believe in karma, but I have seen so many examples of people who induce pain in other people's life and they sleep well at night and do well in general.

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erm... I try to How may I help?

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Ok, I'll have a look

I agree that some people seem to have much easier lives than others and some people treat others like crap and appear to get away with it. But I think the point I was making is that all though it seems on the surface that they are happy they may not have as much capacity for as much happiness because they have not experienced as much pain. And things aren't always as they seem.

I'm not sure I believe in it. I'd like to believe in it because some people deserve a bit of bad luck. But there are times when things go wrong for me when I know I've not done anything to deserve it. So it sort of doesn't lend itself well to being karma based. Just life. It's about choices we make to get to where we are and taking responsibility when things go wrong rather than trying to apportion blame elsewhere. Clearly, though, some people are f&ckwits and there is nothing that anyone can do to prevent being hurt or manipulated by them.

I am a firm believer in karma, especially bad karma and also fate.

I had an abortion as I got pregnant straight after DS was born, I'd had a horrible pregnancy, a newborn baby and also a 2 year old and so felt it was the best thing to do at that time. 9 months later my daughter contracted meningitis and she almost died, she was only 3 years old.....I definitely felt like it was something paying me back for what I did.

Zippety - you can't possibly blame yourself! That is misplaced guilt about the abortion, which you did for reasons that were probably the right ones at the time. Who knows, all your children may have suffered if you had forced yourself to go through withy a pregnancy that you weren't physically or mentally able to do at the time. Be gentle with yourself, love, it wasn't your fault your daughter got meningitis. I don't think that is the sort of karma people are talking about here...

My ex is a monster, he is truly wicked and says that he was just a sperm doner and that he is not my son's father or he hates his son and doesn't care if he sees him again. Of course he denies saying any of this when he calms down and blames me for angering him. He is the father of three beautiful, healthy children and yet he lives with none of them(through choice, he can't get along with the mothers - myself and another lady). He would not be able to live in the U.K., get a council flat of his own(by lying), claim dole etc. if it wasn't for marrying me(or some other poor unsuspecting fool).He is arrogant, rude, cut throat, selfish need I go on and yet he just swaggers with no remorse. I know I need to direct my energies elsewhere but it really burns me that he does not appreciate how lucky he is and he breezes through life seemingly with no recourse

But there is some recourse! He sounds like a real loser... do people really like him? does he have anyone in his life who truly loves him? Where is his integrity and what has he accomplished? What does he have to be proud of? If not now, he will be asking himself all these questions at some point in the future and he is not going to like the answers... he may be gratifying himself right now by being a taker but that is not going t help him long term.

Gosh, Pages I have never looked at things like that before. He doesn't have anyone in his life that really loves him(apart from dumb old me that he has kicked into touch now), he uses his friends as much as he uses the women he comes into contact with and they only hang around because he is more than happy to be their taxi and ferry them about everywhere. He has accomplished nothing of any note in the four years he has been in the UK and has no integrity to speak of. What I think I find the hardest is that he does not seem to be spiritual in anyway and only has materialistic goals and ambitions. He is proud of his children, though he plays little to no part in their up bringing. He even boasts that our son is well mannered and that it is all my doing! The truth is we are chalk and cheese and I have been trying to fit a square peg into a round hole for too long. I am angry and bitter and I think I imagine that his life is going swimmingly and he wouldn't admit it to me even if it wasn't. You are right, he is the loser in the end. He has thrown away a lovely, caring, attentive wife(and main breadwinner),a beautiful son and a lovely home for no good reason apart from the fact that he wanted the life of a single man within a marriage and he is immature and foolish.

kikki i definitely believe that what goes around comes around.. maybe in the next life though! sorry if that doesn't help much. but yes you never get away with acting in a bad way; it catches up with you eventually i'm absolutely sure.

Glad you can see that Wheels - he is going to end up a bitter and lonely old man and from what you have said it sounds like he is starting to realise that already.