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Do I call to wish narc mother a happy birthday?

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timeaftertimeagain · 22/03/2015 12:57

Really struggling with my mother atm. Having RL counselling to do with her systematic destruction of my self esteem. Feeling in a much happier place and putting in some firm boundaries.

I think nc will be a last resort so I am, at the moment, trying to see how I get on with reinforcing very strong boundaries.

She was vile to me a couple of weeks ago on the phone, I challenged it. She justified herself.

Have avoided contact but obv last week was mother's day and I didn't want to give her ammunition for me being a shit daughter so sent flowers and managed a 10 minute phone call.

This week I found out an ex partner is dying. Am feeling very sad and fragile about it. DM obviously knows him as we were together years and she met him several times. Obviously in a normal mother/daughter relationship you would tell your mother this sad news.

If I do, she will treat it as she always does - any situation involving death where a sad/sympathetic response is normal her response is almost an indignance, kind of an affront that someone should have the temerity to do something so undignified as to die. It's almost like a jealousy? That the attention is on someone else.

Also, emotion is frowned upon, she will not have it in herself to be sympathetic to me. If I tell her about it she will punish me.

I have sent her a card and a present, right now I just think shove your sorry little birthday up your arse (sorry).

I should call though, shouldn't I? If only because I am giving her ammunition for her shit daughter narrative if I don't. Having jumped through the mother's day card, present, phone call, birthday card and present hoops it seems stupid to fall at the final hurdle of calling her on her birthday.

And yet, I just don't feel up to it. Had counselling this week, in bits over my friend, I just don't care about this selfish woman's birthday.

What to do?

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MummyBtothree · 22/03/2015 13:02

From one victim of a narcissistic mother to another, no, dont. You must find strength to treat them as they deserve and make a point of not blowing smoke up her arse

Katisha · 22/03/2015 13:02

No don't. Drop the rope. Don't engage.

MummyBtothree · 22/03/2015 13:04

The only way to survive this without her messing your life up is break all contact. I did four years ago its the only way to recover.

timeaftertimeagain · 22/03/2015 13:11

Thank you.

I'm not strong enough/ready for nc atm. It will cause more harm than good if it happens now. I just need to grit my teeth and get through it. Going to stay with them in a week :(

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MummyBtothree · 22/03/2015 13:13

you are welcome to pm me sometime for a natter if you ever want to talk to anyone who knows exactly how you feel and what you suffer x

timeaftertimeagain · 22/03/2015 13:15

Thank you MummyB that's lovely of you to offer x

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MummyBtothree · 22/03/2015 13:18

Its nice that we can all take strength from each other as it is such an un-natural painfull thing to suffer from the person who gave you life. My mother has done/said horrific things, made all the family her flying monkeys and all turned on me.

timeaftertimeagain · 22/03/2015 14:43

Sorry to hear that mummyb :( it's grim isn't it.

Well, I haven't called her...tempted to try and time it for when she's out and leave a message on the answerphone...

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 22/03/2015 15:04

No, do not call her.

Can you cancel your forthcoming visit to her as well?. That is simply going to cause you more anguish. If you really do have to go (and I would still advise not going) keep the visit short and stay in a hotel rather than with them (in the event you are staying with them).

Setting boundaries with narcissists simply does not work out at all well because they rail against same. Ultimately you will likely have to go no contact with her for your own peace of mind. I see that you have mentioned NC as a last resort and the fact that going NC now would cause more harm than good; may I ask why you wrote that?.

If you have never read the website entitled Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers I would certainly point you in the direction of that website. Do post on the well we took you to Stately Homes thread on these pages too.

MeerkaRIPSirTerry · 22/03/2015 15:23

timeaftertime ... don't go to visit.

well done for not calling.

Just don't go for that visit. .... well what atilla says. Don't go, and if you absolutely must then stay somewhere else. Its really hard breaking free of the control of someone like that, but life is SO SO much better the other side. Not easy, there are some very mixed feelings that come with the whole territory, but you can breathe again.

pocketsaviour · 22/03/2015 15:38

Don't call her. And don't ever again reveal any of your emotions (negative or positive) to her. Emotion to a narcissist is like blood in the water to a shark - a cue for a feeding frenzy.

I'm sorry you're in this position. My mum isn't narc but she's got some sort of personality disorder which makes it incredibly draining and depressing to have contact with her. I went NC about 8 weeks ago. It's sad but also been very freeing. Lucky for me my sis is very supportive. Do you have any siblings?

timeaftertimeagain · 22/03/2015 18:20

Thanks pocket. You're right, she's getting no more of my emotions.

I have a brother. He deals with her in a different way to me (withdraws into his shell) and believes that constant negative comments and criticism are part of normal parenting.

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