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Always the same argument

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strawberrymilkshakes · 18/03/2015 23:07

I am 8 months pregnant with my second child and have no one to talk to about this. Basically, my husband and I keep having the same argument and it is only going to get worse when we are sleep deprived with a newborn.

He says I am always sniping at him and picking fights. I don't agree (obviously!) Though I am aware being heavily pregnant I am more irritable. But how I see it is that he is really irritable and hates his work (I work full time too but because I earn less he belittles it) and wants to escalate everything into a massive fight each time.

Take tonight. I woke up after falling asleep when putting the toddler to bed, and when I went into the living room I made a comment about how there was plates everywhere after husband had eaten dinner. I picked up after him anyway and went to wash the dishes (he never does the dishes and never notices that I do). His reaction was to say angrily to me that I shouldn't have a go at him and that it's my fault we live in a pigsty. I decide to ignore him, not wanting to engage with him at all, and this makes him blow up at me, at one point snatching a newspaper I was using to wrap food scraps in and throwing it all over the kitchen so that I have to get down on the floor and clean up the mess he just created. He proceeds to call me names, yelling at me, and I do what I normally do in an argument, try not to say anything and just ignore me. This just makes him angrier.

Anyway, so the last time we had an argument, about who does more around the house, with childcare, he said I am the one who always escalates it, so that it is always more my fault that we are fighting. This time round, because I apparently started the argument, and he was the one who escalated it, I am again the one more at fault for the fight. Every time it is always my fault and apparently I am not kind or respectful enough of him, and that I don't love him anymore. I do still love him, but at times like this I find it very hard to be nice to him.

I feel that if he thinks I am making sniping remarks, he should just ignore them as I don't mean anything behind them. But he sees that as him being a doormat and therefore wants to react to it like this each time. And it is all my fault.

Sorry for the rant, I have no one to talk to about this.

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tallwivglasses · 18/03/2015 23:39

It sounds horrible for you Sad It looks like he's teaching you to not complain about his mess next time. You should just clear up after him like a Stepford wife.

tallwivglasses · 18/03/2015 23:42

Oh, and a normal, decent reaction to your comment should be 'sorry love, I'll do it now. Can I get you anything?'

Thetruthshallmakeyefret · 18/03/2015 23:46

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MrsGiraffe12 · 19/03/2015 00:00

He sounds like my H

Nothing to add but Flowers for you x

Chillyegg · 19/03/2015 00:22

Id asking what his fucking last servant died of!

Your 8 months pregnant and shouldn't be on the floor picking up his mess!
Im fucking fuming for youAngry what a cunt!

Im 8months pregnant and if my DH pulled that shit on me quite frankly fling the plates back at him!

Is there a reason he's incapable of housework? Im sorry love but he sounds like a proper twat! Id do fuck all for him from now on.

Im so tempted to say LTB

springydaffs · 19/03/2015 00:27

Hmm. Not sounding good tbh. He does sound abusive I'm afraid. Have you researched emotional abuse? I'm sorry to be saying this when you are 8m pg. But it's not sounding good Sad

tallwivglasses · 19/03/2015 00:32

Have you got family and friends around you OP?

strawberrymilkshakes · 19/03/2015 06:45

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the support. It's not something I would talk to my family about and the friend I would talk to about this lives far away.

He claims he does housework or at least other household chores / admin that I don't appreciate (like doing our monthly budget), but it's not as though I'm asking for recognition for every time I get to the bottom of the laundry basket or tidy away his clothes. It seems to be just expected.

I'm glad am not alone, anyway, though MrsGiraffe12 I think you deserve Flowers too x

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tribpot · 19/03/2015 06:57

So he belittles your work.
He doesn't pull his weight on the housework.
He thinks all housework is your responsibility.
When you fail to respond to his accusation he not only shouts and calls you names but throws food waste around in the kitchen that you then have to get down on your hands and knees to pick up.

But, to be clear, the problem is that you don't respect him enough?

I think you can see which way this is headed. Having a second child with him is going to consolidate his behaviour and his sense of entitlement.

Please do confide in your friend. And I would start to gather together those things you would need if you decided to leave - documents and so on. Any money you can divert to private savings.

Twinklestein · 19/03/2015 11:44

What Tribpot said.

You also need to stop getting down on your hands and knees to pick up after him when he has a tantrum.

pocketsaviour · 19/03/2015 11:50

PLEASE tell me you didn't pick up the shit he threw on the floor. Please...

Phalenopsis · 19/03/2015 12:25

this makes him blow up at me, at one point snatching a newspaper I was using to wrap food scraps in and throwing it all over the kitchen so that I have to get down on the floor and clean up the mess he just created

Where to start with this alone?! To him you're a servant or a dog, certainly not an equal partner who is EIGHT MONTHS PREGNANT. He isn't a man. He's a child who throws a tantrum because mummy-slave hasn't behaved as she should have.

You're already in 'anything for a quiet life' mode and I'm worried quite frankly. This isn't normal and it's not right. He sounds awful and no, I don't care if you're a bit 'fiesty' or 'argumentative' or any other adjective you want to use to excuse his behaviour. He's bloody awful.

Jan45 · 19/03/2015 15:56

He's an abusive lazy git who can't even help his wife when pregnant, sorry but it does not bode well for the future, where is the respect?

CunningCat · 19/03/2015 18:04

Does he do the monthly budget to control the money? Do YOU have any money yourself?

LaurieFairyCake · 19/03/2015 18:13

He's abusive.

There is nothing more disgusting than throwing scraps all over the floor to make your 8-month pregnant wife get down on her hands and knees to pick them up.

If you hadn't had your self esteem eroded by him you wouldn't have picked them up.

It's time to leave this scumbag.

Leave. the. Fucker.

busybreeze · 19/03/2015 18:42

Agree Jan45, seems he has no respect and thats a big problem. If it makes you feel better im in a similar boat but not pregnant. Just the 1 Ds. In fact we been having similar senarios for years and now I think were at a place where neither of us has any respect for each other. Daft thing is I know we would both love to get it back but its like we just cant! Has your physical relationship suffered too? Our has. Its like were just staying together because of our son really.

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