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Dealing with the abuse

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YKNOTC · 18/03/2015 13:47

I'm a namechanging regular. I got out and got away and I am safe now.

It's 4 years since I LTB, and I think I've finally come to terms with every aspect of his abuse, except the rape. I can't deal with that.

I was assaulted by two strangers on a school trip as a preteen. It took me a long time to get over what these men did to me, and I think I was a lot more fucked up once I thought I was past it than I was when it still upset me.

My sexuality became important to me. Being a sexual person gave me a kind of control. I didn't do anything particularly out of the ordinary, but I was far more likely to say yes when I meant no. My XH knew about my history. He was nice to me about it. He comforted me and assured me that I was safe and it would never happen again.

And then, after we had been together for 7 years, after we'd just got through a rocky patch, one night he initiated sex, I said no, I actually said the words, and told him I was tired, and he climbed on top of me, told me I didn't mean no, and he raped me.

It wasn't violent. I didn't call it rape. But it changed me.

I did everything I could to avoid being in a situation that could be "misunderstood" for the next five years. I did everything I could to make sure sex wasn't expected. When I couldn't avoid it I made sure to say "yes" because then it couldn't be taken. But I never enjoyed it.

He got nastier in other ways at this time. Much nastier. But I tried to keep control. Then came the day when we were trying to rekindle things. He beat me. I could say "spanked" or something equally erotic and delicate sounding, but it wasn't. He slapped me and beat me so hard I was bruised for more than a week. Blood vessels burst. It hurt, but I didn't tell him to stop. Then he had sex with me whilst I cried.

I didn't see that as rape. I never said no. But there was no enthusiastic consent. I cried throughout.

I realised that whenever he touched me, he often hurt me. If I tried to push his hand away, he'd push back. I'd have to make a big deal each and every time I tried to stop him from touching me.

I hate him. I have to give my children to that man. The courts didn't care about what he'd done to me.

My eldest dc once asked me if he'd ever punched me, because if he had they would never see him again. I told them the truth. He never punched me. And so my dc sees him.

the idea of ever having to be in the same room as him feels me with a sick sense of fear. I know he can never hurt me again, but how will I get through all those days when both parents are supposed to be there? Graduation? Weddings? All these days will be me caught in panic.

I'm not sure why I started this.

I've tried to talk to people in RL recently. I told my dm who was lovely. She told my dsis, who seemed to dismiss it as a part of life. I wanted them to know so that they'd stop doing the "we have to be polite and maintain a relationship with him for the dcs' sake".

I've emailed rape crisis to try to find counselling, but it's been more than a week and no one's got back to me. I've sent it again today just in case.

I want the world to say that it wasn't ok. That what he did was wrong. That he's bad. That I'm not attention seeking. I want to be able to talk about it without feeling ashamed.

I have remarried. I have a wonderful husband, who checks I'm ok and stops before I even realise I'm acting differently. But even now I base a certain amount of my self worth on my desirability. If he doesn't want me I find it very hard to deal with. I don't get angry or upset I just feel rejected and go into myself.

In all honesty I don't know what I'm doing. Sex is important to me, but I worry that deep down I'm not doing things to make me happy. That I'm performing. That something was taken from me and I don't even quite know what it was.

Any advice gratefully received, or just many thanks for reading. Like I said I don't know what I want from this. I want to be normal I suppose.

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YKNOTC · 18/03/2015 18:12

Geeky, I put it down to immaturity on the part of the friend. I could never be friends with a rapist. We have drifted apart. Ds was relieved when I told him he hadn't hit me.

Weed, I'm so sorry you've been through this too.

I went through a period of self destruct after we split up. I got together with someone wholly inappropriate and told him point blank I wanted to use him for sex and nothing more. At the time I felt in some way empowered, but later it all felt sleasy and like it only hurt me more. I was trying to regain the power and control.

My dh was someone I had actually known for years, but not well. I had a bit of a breakdown just as we started dating and he was there for me. He got me talking to my family (who XH had of course distanced me from), helped me get in touch with old friends, and was just the most amazing support. And then I dumped him because I wasn't ready and I was scared. And he was lovely about that too, and told me that he would do whatever I needed.

And he did. He left me alone when I needed him to, and I judged him entirely by his actions and not his words.

I'll never believe words over actions ever again.

He built the trust. Given time we grew together and we've been incredibly happy ever since.

I think part of the issue with me is that I trust too easily. Even with everything that happened. I'm probably an idiot :)

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YKNOTC · 18/03/2015 19:13

Probably over shared there. Sorry.

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YKNOTC · 18/03/2015 19:56

Maybe this was a bad idea after all. I'm not sure I'm ready to open up this can of worms :( I'm feeling a bit broken just from posting this.

Thanks for all your kind words Flowers

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Lweji · 18/03/2015 20:19

So sorry that you feel that way, but I hope it was part of the road to recovery.

Flowers
currentnameinuse · 18/03/2015 20:29

I don't think you over-shared - I too am sorry you are feeling broken. There is lots of help and advice available here. Please don't feel you can't post as there will always be support and a listening ear. I appreciate you are dealing with a lot - so am sure your emotions will fluctuate wildly at times. I certainly do not think you are an idiot.

weedinthepool · 18/03/2015 20:32

I'm sorry if I have triggered stuff by asking questions. It's just you are further along the line iykwim so it's interesting to see where you are.

There is nothing wrong with being a trusting person! I feel broken because I'm so untrusting. In fact a manboy who was a decade younger than me who was chancing his arm was so taken aback by how jaded and wary I am of men that he shook his head and said I'd taught him a lesson on how not to fuck someone over Confused I think you have done really well to not let yourself be submerged by your past shitty experience.

weedinthepool · 18/03/2015 20:36

Oh and as for self destructing my finger is slowly lifting off my personal self destruct button as new years eve was a very very low point involving a very inappropriate and frankly embarrassing encounter so there is no judgement from me!

geekymommy · 18/03/2015 20:46

Trusting too easily does NOT mean you deserve to be raped, and it doesn't mean it was your fault that you were raped. No one ever deserves to be raped, no matter what they have done or what character flaws they have.

AvaCrowder · 18/03/2015 21:32

YKNOTC you come across as such a lovely person.

If your exh didn't punch you literally, he did figuratively. Maybe you could tell your ds that. It's horrid to keep things secret from your children, and somtimes it's horrid to tell them the truth. Good luck and best wishes.

As for being at the same events, I would ignore him and pretend he wasn't there, like a fly or a gnat.

I'd speak openly to your son. I'm in the same boat, but I was younger than you, and sometimesI don't have a clue what I'm doing. I trust oo much and I overshare, but I don't want to land my dd with my problems, but I think you have inspired me to.

Thank you.

Loopsjustloops · 18/03/2015 23:06

Thank you so much for posting. Your OP expressed everything that I feel and am too clumsy to say.

I'm so very sorry for the way you have been treated. And I want to express my gratitude for you leading the way.

Please keep posting. That's selfish of me and I don't mean to be insensitive but no amount of therapy or drugs have landed me where you did. And it's a tentative start to a better place ...

Loopsjustloops · 18/03/2015 23:18

I'm so cross with myself that I am maybe coming across as some idealistic, pat you on the back, twat.

My situation is so similar to yours from what I have read (fully appreciate that this is nowhere near even a smidge of the full picture), that I felt it was my only chance to connect.

You sound amazingly strong, well read and prepared on the face of things. I just wanted to extend a hand in case, like me, you have to feel it but are no where close to believing it.

YKNOTC · 19/03/2015 09:49

Loops, not a twat at all, very very very touched by your post.

I'm so very touched by all your posts.

I'm so sorry so many have been through so much.

Ava, I'm still not sure about what to say to ds. I think I will think on it for a while. I don't want to do something that I regret and can't undo.

Perhaps what worries me also about the events where he'll be there, is that he will be being smarmy and trying to talk to me to show how he "holds no hard feelings and is such a good guy". I know my family would be polite. Just once I wish they would put me first and tell him to Fuck off (obviously not in front of the dcs!)

Geeky Flowers

Weed, you haven't triggered anything, don't worry. I've kind of done that myself. I've been told I'm cynical and jaded too at times. And I am. Maybe it's just dh :) I'm glad you're getting to a point of not self destructing. It can feel so great at the time, sometimes I see it as a necessary time to begin my healing. I told dh everything and he says that he thinks I did what I absolutely needed to do at the time, and that there's nothing wrong in doing something at one time, that later on you wouldn't do (if that makes sense).

Currentname, I think you're right about he rollercoaster. I've spent so much time burying things, I'm just not sure how much I can cope with. It's hard to choose to go from feeling in a good place to deliberately being upset. But I suppose dealing with it when in a good place is the best time.

Lweji, you're just lovely Flowers

I'm feeling a bit more with it today. I'm going to call rape crisis and get on the list for some counselling. I can decide if I'm ready when it's offered.

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YKNOTC · 19/03/2015 10:12

I'm on the waiting list :) it's about 3 months long at the moment. So that gives me some time to decide what I want to do.

Loops, I meant to say more to you. Do you want to share what happened or is it too difficult? No matter what, it isn't your fault. The worst thing is knowing that they'll get away with it. They'll carry on pretending to be someone normal. They won't accept the label of rapist. They'll look at themselves in the mirror and, if they think about it at all, it will only be to make excuses. This makes me angry and frustrated. I want him to be punished for what he's done, but if I go to the police it'll be more suffering for me.

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