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Husband may be bi/gay (sorry, long story)

14 replies

HappyAndSunny · 25/02/2015 09:12

I've Just found out husband watches gay porn on Internet and don't know what to do.

For many years he has worn my undies sometimes and buys himself tight underwear in satin type fabric, playboy print and strings. He's been plucking chest hairs and shaving under arms and public area for 7-8 yrs. Tries to put his penis up my bum during sex. I think he must be bisexual but I don't think he has acted on it. Our eldest son is gay and he has really turned his back on him.
He's always been a selfish lover. I used to try to guide him or tell him what I do or don't like but he usually just did the opposite so I gave up trying. I get no enjoyment from sex and don't want sex with him anymore, it feels like he'd rather be with a man.
I want him to move out but I can't afford to run the home. If I leave he can't afford it.
His poor mum has been bedridden past 2yrs. He thinks not long to live. Sounds horrible but once she passes on he could afford expense of house and I could move out. Meantime I don't know if I can live like this any more.

There has been lots of problems over our 28year marriage

Long standing problem with him getting into debt. He uses credit cards/bank overdrafts up to the hilt. Hides it from me.
£12k in debt again. 4th time crunch. Usually I use savings to help clear debts but last time, 5 years ago I didn't have enough so I had to increase my work hours as he refuses to work for anyone. He is Self employed, few jobs, little income.

He Hoards Clutter/junk, impossible to do anything without it falling down. Can't even get into cupboards without having to move piles of junk. Very frustrating trying to clean or do anything. I can't invite friends around as the house is such a mess.
Controlling. Wants to know where I'm going, when back, what was said. Do things his way.
Moody, raises voice, sulks, silent treatment.
Doesn't get on with 2nd son, always putting him down. can't invite him for dinner without a tantrum from my husband
Highly critical, whatever I do, however I do it, it'll be wrong so I'm afraid to do anything
Confrontational, afraid to ask him anything, he'll jump down my throat, treading on eggshells all the time. Never get a proper answer.
Doesn't like to repeat anything. If I ask him to repeat something as I didn't hear he replies aggressively or not at all.
Evades or totally ignores any question, or says he'll talk about it later but never does.
Deceives people, for example he dresses in suit to go visit his mum so she thinks he's going to or coming home from work
Tells lies very convincingly so I am unable to trust him.
Listens in my phone calls, goes through my papers, looks over my shoulder all the time.
I feel inhibited by him though I've got nothing to hide. Just need some privacy
Suggestive looks and comments constantly. Dashes upstairs as soon as I come out the shower. Feel pressured he's looking for sex all the time.
Rants
Bad tempered at home but life and soul outside
Says I'm the one with the problem

I've let him get away with behaviour and I know it's my reaction that needs to change but feel it's too late now.
I was physically abused and sexually abused from around 8yrs old. Left home at 16, managed very well on my own for nearly 10 years, rented room, then flat then purchased my own flat age 21. No confidence or self esteem now

Some good things,
Helps around house, shops etc though wasn't always so.
Doesn't mind me going out.
Doesn't hit me!

Have suggested relationship counselling many times over the years but he totally refuses.

I haven't spoken to him yet about the Internet porn so he's not aware I know. I just don't know what to do now.

I would really appreciate your advice.

OP posts:
ArabellaStrange · 25/02/2015 09:18

Your husband is abusive and not just a little bit, like hugely abusive!
I think the gay porn watching is the least of it in terms of what you should be worrying about.
I need to dash now but wil be back later!

Corsu · 25/02/2015 09:22

I didn't want to read and run.
At the moment, you can remove the whole gay/bi part and he still doesn't sound like a man that you want to spend the rest of your life with. That should be enough. You deserve more than that.

You don't even have to talk to him about the porn. Talk to him about everything else if you have to talk to him at all. It doesn't sound like you owe him anything.

Good luck OP, this has really tugged at my heartstrings for a reason I'm not quite sure about, so I will be thinking of you.

hillyhilly · 25/02/2015 09:23

There are so many reasons to leave but none to stay - not least the relationships with your sons that is suffering even though it appears they are adults.
If your earnings have gone to pay off his debts then surely there is a solution as to where you could live if you were to leave, somewhere tiny/ rented/ not where you might choose but without him will be so much happier than where you are now.
You may have spent 28 years with this horrible man but it is not too late to enjoy the rest pf your life, please take advice on the financials and make an escape plan.

chinstrappenguin · 25/02/2015 09:24

Sorry OP but I don't think 'but he doesn't hit me' is a good enough reason to stay with this horrible man.

scrunchiemount · 25/02/2015 09:27

OP I really feel for you, what a horrible situation to be in. This is a classic abusive relationship. My Mum has been in one for the past eight years, which is long enough, and you have been doing it for twenty years. You poor, poor thing. You deserve to get out and be happy. I'm sorry I don't have any constructive advice as from my mother's experience I know how hard it is to leave these men, but you are not alone.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 25/02/2015 09:34

Bottom line is that you're married to someone who exhibits a long list of bad behaviour that looks a lot like abuse, and you really don't have to be. I'm sorry that your confidence and self-esteem are low but I do hope you find the courage to confide in someone IRL and also to get legal advice on where you would stand in the event of a divorce. It's never too late to reject abusive behaviour and strike out for independence

Best of luck

CogitoErgoSometimes · 25/02/2015 09:36

Womens Aid 0808 2000 247 can be a useful resource if you don't know what to do next. You don't have to be physically assaulted to accept their help. They understand emotional, sexual and financial abuse.

scrunchiemount · 25/02/2015 09:37

Actually one thing I would suggest - contact women's aid or refuge and talk to them. They can give excellent practical advice for women in such situations. A relationship doesn't have to be physically violent to classify as abusive.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 25/02/2015 09:42

BTW... watching gay porn, enjoying anal sex and the other things you describe do not necessarily mean someone is gay or bi. The bigger problem is that he has sex with you knowing you get no pleasure from it. He uses you for his own gratification. That's selfishness at best, sexual abuse at worst.

badbaldingballerina123 · 25/02/2015 12:48

It's not your fault . He's not normal. He's abusive in every way.

He sounds like he possibly has some sort of personality disorder. Possibly npd. He sounds horribly sexually abusive Op , I really feel for you with the comments and suggestions all the time.

Educate yourself about personality disorders and take steps to free yourself of this abusive parasite.

NeedABumChange · 26/02/2015 08:57

All the things on your 'good' list are just standard things not reason to stay type things Sad

I don't think he's gay or he wouldn't be after sex with you, a woman. All the things you mention don't really mean he's gay. Even the porn, most hetro porn has the penis as the star of the show. Guys imagine that's them, sometimes watching gay porn for straight men is about power/control/dominance.

But.. I think you problems are bigger than the sex stuff. He sounds an arse, you sound miserable and beaten down. Financially could you afford to downsize? If he has few jobs I'm guessing you are the main earner anyway?

SensationalGirl · 26/02/2015 12:51

Get out. Get out now.

Auburnsparkle · 26/02/2015 18:22

Bloody hell - being gay/bi is the least of your worries. You need to get rid of him yesterday. Why would you stay with him a moment longer?

HelenaDove · 26/02/2015 18:33

There is an article written for Red magazine this month by a writer whose husband told her he was gay.
Before that he would insult her appearance and tell her she was boring etc.

As i was reading it my immediate thought was "Being gay is no excuse for emotional abuse.

OP whether your H is gay /bisexual or not he IS being abusive and there is NEVER any excuse for it.

LTB!

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