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CrazyCatLady13 · 21/02/2015 21:15

Background - married 4 years, together 6. For the first few years, DH was a supply teacher and would often come home upset as a contract had suddenly ended. I'd comfort him and support him until he found something else. I had a full time permanent job.

For the past 2 years he's been working at the same contract, earning about £500 per week.

I have a long term health problem (fibromyalgia) and was really struggling with working full time. I asked to reduce my hours in current role, boss said no and started bullying me. It got so bad I was signed off with stress and resigned. This was last October.

Initially he was supportive, said my health was more important than anything else, but then kept dropping hints of 'I don't know how we'll pay the bills' every once in a while, made me so unsure of myself. His salary more than covers the bills but up to this point I'd always paid half even though my salary was much less than his.

Anyway, I got another job within a week but on much less money (£7.18 for 20 hours per week). I worked out that we both paid proportionately the same amount from our salary towards bills, which didn't leave me much after bus fares, my share of food shopping etc. To be fair, if I needed any extra money I'd ask for it and he'd give it.

He'd drop hints every so often, like when I asked to borrow his laptop he said I should buy my own, I said I couldn't afford to, and he said I should work more hours. It's already a struggle to work 20 hours a week and he knows this.

Yesterday, my boss said that they were going through a quiet time and wouldn't need me for a few months (poss until June / July). Nothing to do with my work, just his view that there wasn't enough to do. This was a complete shock for me and came from nowhere.

I intend to start job hunting on Monday as obviously can't sit on my backside for months waiting for them to call me. DH is now freaking out over money but I know financially we'll be okay, and that I'll work at getting another job as soon as possible (haven't been out of work for more than a week since we met!)

It just feels like it's okay for him to get support when his contract ends, with me telling him not to worry, it will all be fine, but when I need support I get him telling me about how we can't afford it etc.

I love him so much, and he's so supportive generally of my ill health although obviously gets frustrated as any partner would. I feel under so much pressure to go back to work full time and wreck my health again just to stop the comments but dread feeling how ill I did last time I worked full time.

Anyway, thank you for reading my essay. I've tried to show both sides as much as possible. If anyone has any advice I'd be happy to hear it.

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Khalisi · 21/02/2015 21:35

Sweet Jesus, Lady.
He sounds like a taker. You spend too much of your money as it is and you supported him and now that you need support he throws fits?!

I don't really have advice but I'm sure more people will come by soon.

Good luck with your health worries, OP. Flowers

mineofuselessinformation · 21/02/2015 21:37

If he's a qualified teacher, why doesn't he take a permanent post?
Seems obvious to me.

tallwivglasses · 21/02/2015 21:51

Does he work during the school holidays, OP?

CrazyCatLady13 · 21/02/2015 21:53

He had a breakdown a couple of years ago (work stress combined with legacy of severe childhood abuse) and was off work for a couple of months. I didn't mention money worries once and just told him to take as long as he needed to get better.

When my boss was bullying me in October I was so exhausted and wound down that I discussed with him having a month off to recover before job hunting. One minute he was supportive, the next he was saying how stressed he was over money. I started job hunting straight away and was working again in two weeks.

I also supported him financially when he decided to try to change career and started nursing training for a few months. He got a bursary that helped and I started paying more for bills etc. One day, he asked me for money to go on a night out, so I asked him how much he had in his account - he had hundreds, I had about £80.

He's absolutely lovely but has such an issue over money. He hates spending money on anything.

I don't want to give the wrong impression of him - he's one of the kindest people I've ever met and my family & friends all love him - it's just this issue over money that I struggle with.

He's offered for us to have a joint account but I just know that I'd be cross questioned over every penny I spent. He's already like this with things that I buy - he always asks how much I spent on it.

If this money issue he has could be sorted, things would be so much better.

As for a permanent job - he's been in one for two years now which has helped his confidence a little but whenever he has a little issue at work he thinks he'll lose his job and I have to calm him down. He has such a lack of self confidence.

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CrazyCatLady13 · 21/02/2015 21:56

Tall - he has taken on factory jobs during most summer holidays although he doesn't need to financially.

During term time he works very long hours - 12 hours per day - so when the holidays come he is exhausted. I'd rather he didn't work in the summer holidays to be honest as he really needs the break.

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wellcoveredsparerib · 21/02/2015 22:24

What treatment are you getting for your fibromyalgia OP? Do you think your Dh may be worried that you will never be able to work full time again and the financial responsibility now falls fully on him which makes him anxious because he is so lacking in self confidence

CrazyCatLady13 · 22/02/2015 00:59

Wellcovered - I've been signed off by the pain management clinic as I've tried all their treatments - the consultant pretty much said they've done everything they can and I've just got to live with it. I manage with antidepressants and painkillers and occasionally muscle relaxants.

I agree - his anxiety is causing this. I've never said I want to give up work completely, I'd hate this, but it's like whatever I do isn't good enough. Although the financial responsibility is on him at present I intend to get back to work asap even if it's temp factory work (not great for my health but would ease the money issues a little) but if I were to say to him, I really need some time off to get stronger before going back to work, he'd stress over money. This is completely the opposite to how I was with him when he needed time off, and that's what I'm struggling with.

I guess I feel trapped - if I need time off because of my health he stresses, then I go back to work too soon and struggle and need time off sick which then causes stress at work which makes me more stressed and it just goes on and on. I started my most recent job within a fortnight of leaving my old one, and it was pure hell for me for the first few weeks as my body and mind just weren't ready. I was under such pressure to go back to work quickly, even though at first he said he supported me in having a month off before looking for work then changed his mind.

Sorry, I'm rambling now. It's double standards I guess - he can have off all the time he needs when he had a breakdown and had support and no pressure from me, but I can't have it from him, and that hurts.

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CrazyCatLady13 · 22/02/2015 01:05

Wellcovered - based on my health over the past 10 years, I'm unlikely to be fit enough to work full time again. If I do, I literally just work and sleep until it gets so bad I need a few weeks off work to recover my strength (mentally and physically).

Financially - DH makes enough to cover both of us easily but I don't want him to have to do this. I actually enjoy going to work and earning a wage, and contributing to the household!

I don't know if he maybe thinks I'm using him, but all I'm asking for is a little support until I can get another job with no pressure or guilt trips from him, which is the same I've given him so many times in the past.

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SensationalGirl · 22/02/2015 06:32

My mum has what you have and she looks really well. It's hard to tell that she's ill most of the time. Your DH could be like that, he looks at you, see's you look tired but don't we all?

Add to that his anxiety over working and past issues and you have two people not really connecting. It's not that you're not trying, it just seems that he doesn't fully understand your condition and you're not working as a team together. It's no ones fault, miss communication happens in all marriages at some stage and you both have serious issues that need sorting.

I strongly suggest counseling, it will help you both get talking which will help you both feel you are on the same team.

SilverFishFly · 22/02/2015 09:30

Money can be a tricky subject to discuss if the two people involved have different views so i really feel for you.

CrazyCatLady13 · 22/02/2015 09:49

Thank you Sensational, your post really makes sense. I just feel under so much pressure at the moment I could snap.

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babbityann · 22/02/2015 10:06

Dear OP, do you have children?
Your DH has good qualities but seems somewhat stuck when it comes to money.
Has he had counselling to help him recover from his childhood abuse?

CrazyCatLady13 · 22/02/2015 11:28

Babbity - we don't have children - would find it very difficult with my health.

DH had 2 months of counselling when he had his breakdown. A lot of this centered around stress relief but I know his counsellor was shocked at the abuse he had suffered (could be reported to police even at this late date). DH is still in contact with them, just low contact and a weekly phone call, which is another problem in itself! I try to have as little to do with them as possible, maybe see them twice a year, as I can't stand to look at the people who hurt my DH so badly.

I suggested a few months ago that he go back to the counsellor but he's moved, and it took 3 different counsellors before he found one he was comfortable with, so he didn't want to start over.

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babbityann · 22/02/2015 11:40

Poor man, he has been through a lot. It sounds like you support and love each other a lot, except for the money issue .
Could be his childhood has left him insecure in general and this is his way of protecting himself, by minding every penny. However, it is not fair on you.
Why does he feel the need to work over the holidays, if he is teaching he gets paid holidays.
You need to really talk this out with him. You are his main support and he needs to be yours and let him know that the pressure to earn more will only make your health worse in the long run.
What do you do? (sorry if I missed it upthread)

fluffapuss · 22/02/2015 11:41

Hello Crazy

I dont know why you resigned from your job, some companies keep jobs open for years for people who are off sick & people still get sick pay & company benefits. (this may depend on how long you have worked for that company, some companies offer better benefits after 2 years)

I would get a permanent job, think about yourself & your future

Plan for yourself, nobody knows what the future holds

Good luck

Isetan · 22/02/2015 14:12

Have you not called him on his attitude and spelled out the inequalities and double standards? As lovely as he might be, he has some serious issues which you can not begin to help him with.

This attitude is long ingrained and I suspect that only therapy could begin to shift it but if he's unwilling, there's very little you can do but stand up for yourself and call him on it.

tallwivglasses · 22/02/2015 19:08

Is he fully aware of the amount of support you've given him during his unemployed times? I'd be tempted to do a timeline comparing your/his periods of not working so it's there in black and white. I'd also print off detailed information about your condition with parts about pain and exhaustion hylighted.

His money insecurities definitely seem linked to his childhood, but then asking you for money for a night out when he had hundreds in the bank make him look like a tightwad, pure and simple Confused

CrazyCatLady13 · 22/02/2015 20:12

Thank you to everyone who posted and took the time to help.

Had a long discussion with DH this afternoon. He feels I've been distant and taking out my depression on him, I feel unsupported and then go distant with him, etc etc.

It was a really useful talk. We both discussed each other's faults and problems we've been having. We've decided to work on our communication and focus on doing things together to get our closeness back.

He has told me (and I believe him) that he would be happy to support me financially if I don't go back to work, but that he wouldn't be able to help worrying about money occasionally.

I've applied for 9 part time jobs today (admin / accounts / payroll assistant so quite flexible luckily) but feel that the pressure is off if I don't find a job quickly.

He's also told me not to jump into the first job I'm offered if it doesn't feel right, to wait until the right one comes along so I feel much better about everything.

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GallicIsCharlie · 22/02/2015 20:40

That was a good talk! Wishing you every bit of luck you need Flowers

babbityann · 07/03/2015 18:28

Hi catlady, wondering how you are. (you post struck a cord with me as my DH and I have very different views on money leading to a lot of problems) Have you got a new job?

CrazyCatLady13 · 07/03/2015 22:46

Hi Babbity

Not working yet, am focusing my job search on jobs that are ideal for me. Think I'm up to 20 job applications now!

DH still being supportive. We're discussing money openly now, and working out how to cut corners on things to ease matters (shopping at Aldi rather than Sainsburys etc).

Since we had the discussion, we're really working on our communication and it is working. Things are calmer and we're both under much less pressure. We're also working on our closeness, as this got pushed aside with my health problems, and my being off work is helping with this.

So far, so good!

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babbityann · 07/03/2015 22:48

Good news.
Good luck with the job applications!

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