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Help for distressed neighbour

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Beyoncescat · 10/02/2015 14:43

This is about my next door neighbour. She's asked me for help but I'm not sure how to help her thought I'd ask here.

My neighbour (Sharon) lived next door to me with her boyfriend (James) on and off for 15 years. The relationship was rocky so In 2008 James put Sharons name on the tenancy to try and prove he was serious.

James left Sharon that same year and moved out the flat to move in with his new girlfriend.

Sharons been there since 2008 by herself.

In this time James has constantly been calling and showing up unannounced being aggressive and threatening to move back in the flat.

Sharons a lovely lady and i feel sorry for her just trying to live her life but I'm not sure how to help her.

How can she get James off the tenancy agreement and get him to leave her alone?

It's a housing association property if that's relevant

Thanks.

I've changed the names.

Sharon

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Beyoncescat · 10/02/2015 14:44

Sorry for typos on my phone. Not sure what that random Sharon at the bottom is either! Grin

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HowCanIMissYouIfYouWontGoAway · 10/02/2015 14:55

What have the housing association advised her to do? Do they know he is no longer living there? What are their rules on that?
Has she spoken to shelter for any housing law advice? Or the CAB?

Beyoncescat · 10/02/2015 15:01

Thanks for replying.

The housing association aren't interested they said she has to pay and take him to court and try and get his name off but even then she might lose and she can't afford to do that any how.

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CrispyHedgeHog · 10/02/2015 15:06

I think if she can show that he has a tenancy agreement, bills etc at another address then he's no longer eligible to be on the tenancy at the address he shared with Sharon.

Also if all the bills etc are her sole name, council tax single occupant reduction etc to build a picture of them living separately.

The electoral register too might be worth a look.

HowCanIMissYouIfYouWontGoAway · 10/02/2015 15:06

If she hasn't already contacted shelter, the CAB and the law centre, she should do so.

If he's on the tenancy then he does have rights, so it's about how to legally get him off.

If she is in genuine fear (and it sounds like she is) could she get a restraining order? She needs legal advice and she needs to get it from probably shelter or the law centre. Not that I am criticising the CAB but sometimes they do give duff advice.

HowCanIMissYouIfYouWontGoAway · 10/02/2015 15:07

yes, he might be breaking tenancy rules if he has another home. She needs to find out the HA rules on that.

Beyoncescat · 10/02/2015 15:15

Thanks

I suggested a restraining order but he hasn't physically assaulted her so would this even be possible?

She hasn't tried the law centre so I've told her to do that

She very placid so I've told her to talk to the housing again and see what they can do but make sure she stands up for herself

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HowCanIMissYouIfYouWontGoAway · 10/02/2015 15:43

Haven't got a clue. I'm not a lawyer I just wondered if it might be worth looking into.

I don't think you have to wait until someone has actually harmed you though. I think a serious and genuine threat must be grounds, otherwise people wouldn't get them for stalkers, or exes threatening them, etc.

HowCanIMissYouIfYouWontGoAway · 10/02/2015 15:45

I wasn't being snippy saying I'm not a lawyer Grin I just didn't want to appear as though I was giving trained legal advice or anything. I think it's important that people don't come across like they are experts if they aren't.

Itsgoingtoreindeer · 10/02/2015 15:52

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Beyoncescat · 10/02/2015 17:11

I got ya Howcan Grin thanks

Reindeer really? We're you in London?

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LuisSuarezTeeth · 10/02/2015 17:21

The HA will need to get him to sign "off" the tenancy agreement and issue a new one to Sharon. He will need to do this anyway if he applies for HA or council housing. Sharon can request this but it's up to James to sign it.

Beyoncescat · 10/02/2015 19:20

He won't do that. He said someday maybe Hmm I think he's keeping his options open in case he breaks up with his girlfriend or she kicks him out.

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