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Help me see the wood through the trees

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LakelandLassie · 07/02/2015 22:26

Relationship between me and my 'H' has not been great for a while. Married 16yrs, 3DC. He claims everything is fine. I have seen a solicitor re divorce but decided not to proceed just yet until I have saved up some money and the eldest DC (15)have finished their exams.
I have always been the 'enabler' in the relationship; allowing him to do what he wants and leaving me to do what has to/needs to be done.
I have always worked (PT since having the DC) but in the last 3 yrs my employment history has been checkered due to an accident but mostly because I was a sessional worker. He earns 7x what I earn. Money for the family has become very tight however spending on his very expensive hobby continues unabated.

In theory we should have quite a large disposable income but I always have to be very frugal with the 'housekeeping' money. He gives me a third of his income for housekeeping (food ,clothing, all DCs expenses); mortgage and all other bills amount to just less than another third; leaving the rest for him.
When I have asked for a bit of extra money, say for Christmas, he says that there is no spare cash.
Less than 6mths ago my parents loaned me some money to buy a car as he said he couldn't afford to replace the old one that had 'died'. We live in a rural area and it was making life very hard and expensive for me having to rely on public transport with 3DC and hold down a job.
This week he announces that in order to pay less tax; he is going to put several hundred pounds a month into his pension pot.
I am beyond livid that this man thinks it more important to reduce his tax bill than buy his children Christmas presents.
He always makes it sound like he is being the sensible one and that I don't understand finances.
So, am I right to feel angry or is he being sensible?
This may be the final nail in the coffin of our marriage for me.

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Molly333 · 07/02/2015 22:33

Oh my god is he real ? You are married to a man who is supposed to love you and care for you and look after you all as his family - he only considers that that applies to him ! Selfish is probably and understatement . If you are unsure if I'm right look at your friends relationships , watch them , observe then think how important are you really ? It will feel sad because it is . And also the reason he says your marriage is okay is because it suits him fine , he has a little wifey who dies all she us told - time to change definitely x

LakelandLassie · 07/02/2015 23:41

Yes its time to change. I hate myself for becoming a little wifey- it is not who I am.

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bettyboop1970 · 07/02/2015 23:48

He sounds a selfish prick!

DeanKoontz · 08/02/2015 00:01

It sounds to me like you need more financial transparency from him.

You say he earns 7x what you earn and gives you a third of this for food, dc's and expenses. Do you keep your own wages too? How much are you actually having to manage on per month?

Also, Is the pension pot for him or both of you? It's not fair unless it's a joint pot.

Do you have access to savings accounts etc? Are they in joint names and if not, could you ask him to change all of this so you know exactly what is going on financially?

CogitoErgoSometimes · 08/02/2015 08:20

Of course it's unreasonable. Does he know that a divorce is on the cards? My fear would be that, if he is this parsimonious, he will be spending the time between now and when he gets a letter from a solicitor reorganising his finances so that, when the split happens, you are denied a fair share. Salting money away into a pension pot sounds like it's already started.

Exams or no, I would get the divorce underway now or you'll be shafted.

LakelandLassie · 08/02/2015 08:46

Thanks everyone for your replies. We have always had separate bank accounts, no savings acc (that I know of) which is another bone of contention, and I guess the pension pot would be 'ours' if we stay together.
Yes I keep my income but over the last few years I have got my self into debt as there have been months of no work. In the next few months that debt will be cleared. I have learned a few hard lessons in the past three years. When I make no demands on him; every thing is fine. When I ask for help; none is forthcoming.
Yes he does know that I have seen a solicitor but said that I was depressed and not thinking straight, it was a mid-life crisis (mine, not his), blah, blah, blah. Outwardly he is carrying on as if that 'conversation' never happened.

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Handywoman · 08/02/2015 14:38

By all means he can put money into his pension pot.... In the event of a divorce (and I do hope you will divorce this man) after 16yrs the pension pot will surely be shared too.

Good luck Thanks

AnyFucker · 08/02/2015 15:25

All I can say is: what took you so long ?

Divorce the fucker. And make sure you rinse him for half his oh-so-important pension pot.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 08/02/2015 15:42

The pension pot is not automatically shared..... hate to let anyone down. If there has been significant sacrifice on the part of the other spouse eg. giving up a career of their own, or if they are near retirement age themselves and unable to get their own pension pot together in the working time left, then there's a case for sharing. But youngish/working age exes with an income potential etc can find it's not as big a part of the deal as they think.

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