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Help me figure this out

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TheBestNamesAreTaken · 04/02/2015 21:13

Long time lurker, etc, and don't know if I can tell this story succinctly.

For background, H has always had a bit of a horrible streak. Strange role models for relationships, angry streak, really nasty (EA I guess) side, snaps inexplicably. A chauvinist attitude (doesn't clean, makes a horrendous mess whilst claiming to be a germaphobe), doesn't parent on any level bar financially, is often disrespectful. When we married, the good outweighed the bad, & I felt that when these things reared their head, I could deal with them - almost like defects in an otherwise tight relationship, if you will.

However, we've had a really horrible marriage for a long time. I've often thought I should leave as his nastiness became unbearable. We have 2 girls (almost 3 & almost 1), one with suspected ASD. He'd tell me I'm a shit mother, ASD symptoms my fault/doing etc. I felt, frequently, that I'd reached my limit and wanted out. Tried once, he told me he'd call police, say I was unstable & children were at risk, & SS would make me leave them. Long story short, I backed down.

In August, I caught him meeting up with an ex, on 2 consecutive nights. Without exaggeration, he told me 5 different stories to explain his whereabouts, each time I disproved him, & didn't tell me the truth until December, when it eventually got through to him that I was still affected by it.

To the current issue:

Sunday night, 10pm ish, he had a missed FaceTime call, came on screen as 'Jocelyn'. He claimed she was a new member of staff with questions on closing procedure at a restaurant we own. Very obvious (& proven) to be a lie. He then blocks her number, & deletes his call history. Trying to cut long stories short here, this morning I intercepted an email from her (I know!) in reply to his suggestion to them meeting - pet names, the works!. Sent them both a response, which I can copy & paste, letting them know I'd discovered them.

So, he tells me 'the truth' (although she panics and sends me a number of emails that leave gaping holes in his story), he's sorry, real reality check, they met on some seedy site and he vows to stay away from them, etc. He assures me I know all there is to know, no more secrets. Although the female in all this later reveals they met twice - one chance meeting and one more professional. By this, she means that she is a prostitute and their 2nd meeting he paid her for.

I genuinely believe, based on her story and his, that there was no sex. However, he's lied & deceived so much that it's almost immaterial. I feel he's destroyed everything - our marriage, me as the person I was, and our children's future. So why can't I find the words to tell him it's over?

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strongandlong · 04/02/2015 21:22

I'm sorry he's treated you so badly. You've been in an abusive marriage for a long time. It is notoriously difficult to break out of that situation.

Take your time to prepare yourself. Sort your finances and paperwork out and make a plan. Telling him is not a priority.

Look after yourself and your girls.

AHatAHatMyKingdomForAHat · 04/02/2015 21:23

So why can't I find the words to tell him it's over?

Maybe because he would twist the words and convince you to stay.

You could leave then send him a text or your solicitor could send him a letter.

What do you want to happen?

Quitelikely · 04/02/2015 21:36

Oh dear. I think this is over by a long shot. Sorry you've had such a bad time but this is going nowhere unless you like misery.

TheBestNamesAreTaken · 04/02/2015 21:39

I don't know if he'd twist the words - he's keen to tell me that he'd have a better relationship with our children if we split (twisted logic if ever I heard it), and that it'd be 'fine'.

As for what I want, so far today I've wanted a divorce, still a divorce, thought there was a chance to 'fix' as he'd accepted his wrongdoing, then a proper talk to determine I definitely want out, then for him to be all these things he promises he'll be, so that we stay together & find our way to a happy relationship. Now I'm swithering. Pathetic & screwed up!

Even when our marriage is on the line, he's still dishonest.

And I think it's relevant that she says they met face to face by chance, then for this paid-for hour, whilst he claims they met online, and is sticking with this story. There has to be some reason why he won't tell me the circumstances of their initial meeting, but I cannot fathom what it might be.

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sixandtwothrees · 04/02/2015 21:50

Please please leave this man

You don't need to know why or what the details are of the story - he's done enough surely... Would the details make him any less of a lying abusive slime?

I am SO sorry that you have been so badly damaged by this awful person

happywanderingwithdog · 04/02/2015 22:08

Oh my god, he sounds awful! He's not good enough to lick your shoes. Come on, the leaving point was him blaming you for your daughter's problems, that is unforgivable. He doesn't care for your feelings, he doesn't respect you. How on earth can you move on from this with someone so clearly only in love with themselves?

You and your children deserve better.

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