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Help - I dont know who is in the wrong

23 replies

Cantbebotheredtocutupfruit · 04/02/2015 15:45

I really need some help, am totally confused about who is in the wrong here and my mind is going crazy.

DP and I have been together 7 years - we have an 18 month old son. He has always been a bit of a party animal (staying out all night, drinking too much, taking cocaine in the past - all things I disagree with). He promised that would stop when we had our son. It hasn't - if anything it has got worse (although he swears he has stopped the cocaine). He is on anti depressants and has a bad relationship with his Father. He did this 4 years ago it resulted in me having an EA which I know is inexcusable but I was telling him every week that I didn't want to be with him and to leave and he was ignoring me. He would disappear for days on end, message me in the middle of the night saying he was going to kill himself and I'm ashamed to say I allowed my head to be turned by someone who promised he would look after me.

Our sex life is non existent and has been since our son was conceived, Im so angry with him all the time. Im also petrified of having sex after a traumatic childbirth. I probably need counselling. Im trying to get more intimate by initiating massages etc just so that I can learn to be close to him again but I just freeze.

I cant take the staying out anymore. It happens maybe every week to 10 days. Last Friday he went for a curry and didn't come home until 2pm on the Saturday afternoon. He said his drink was spiked with LSD. Last night he went to watch the football and came in at 7am. I was furious - I have to leave for work at 6.30am. He says he is with friends but I think he lies. I ignore him, cry, shout but nothing works. He doesn't answer his phone when I call.

He has not earned any money for the last 6 years - I have paid for everything. His business if finally doing well and whilst he is now paying his way, he thinks it is Ok to blow several hundreds of pounds a week on designer clothes for himself (£400 shoes etc).he is not contributing towards the debt I got into when he wasn't earning and keeps on saying he will but nothing comes of it.

His behaviour is affecting his work. It also affects our son as he keeps on not taking him to nursery and keeps him with him all day.

Today I was furious. Our cleaner turned up and couldn't do the cleaning because he was still in bed at 9.30. He knew she was coming. He refused to speak to me on the phone.

He called me an hour later and said his sister had been sectioned for attempting suicide. This sister is one he has disowned and he has not spoken to for 3 years. I wasn't tactful and said that I wanted to talk about us now and not later. I admit I should have been more concerned about her but I was just so angry, frustrated and upset at him staying out all night that I wanted it to be about me/us - not for him to use that to make me forget what he keeps on doing. I was obviously going to ask about her during that conversation but it didn't go that far as he said that I should let it go and he needs to focus on his family (which I know he needs to do) but I just feel so broken.

He hung up on me, saying he needed to take a call from his nan. I didn't believe him so I called her to see if she was on the phone and she was. he got call waiting and told him and he asked if it was me - I acknowledged that it was (I wanted to be truthful). He says that I am disgusting for calling and interrupting his nan.

He now wont talk to me and my head is spinning. I just feel so lost.

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Nolim · 04/02/2015 15:50

Ltb

GoatsDoRoam · 04/02/2015 15:53

Ditch this man.

He is just a sinkhole for your time and energy and money.

Cut your losses. End it. Deal with your debts - you'll get nothing from him. Raise a happier child because you will be happier.

Jan45 · 04/02/2015 15:54

FGS you need to get out, that will drive you insane, he has no respect for you OP, it's pretty plain to see, his needs are more important than yours or his child's, he must also be spending a fortune.

Get out as fast as you can, you will feel a lot happier, less stressed and probably financially better off, only you can do it, get clued up!

newstart15 · 04/02/2015 16:22

I really feel for you. He has you in a head fuck, looking for ways that he can be the victim. You didn't do anything wrong. You don't trust him and he has given you good reason to not trust him.

Nothing that you do will make this better as he doesn't want it. Talk is cheap, his actions tell you everything. He will continue like this and this will be your life and your children's life.

He is not a grownup and highly unlikely to change. I speak from experience, I eventually left and my life became so much better. He is draining you, making you the mother to him and he will be a very poor example for your child.

I think you will have to leave, it's actually easier to leave when your dc are smaller. Good Luck

supernaut · 04/02/2015 16:25

You don't know who is in the wrong? Hmm

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 04/02/2015 16:27

Distressing as it is about his sister,

he said that I should let it go and he needs to focus on his family

that's rich coming from him, what about you and DS? Aren't you anywhere on his list of priorities?

Give up OP, he really isn't worth the bother.

Cantbebotheredtocutupfruit · 04/02/2015 17:02

Thank you everyone- I guess I really need some sense talked into me. I have put up with it for so long because I don't want DS to be part of a broken home - it breaks my heart to think I wouldn't see him every day but this whole situation is exhausting me and DS must be picking up on things.

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bloodygorgeous · 04/02/2015 17:12

Let me put this into context.

I've been on Mumsnet for seven years and read many, many sad and sorry posts about horribly selfish and destructive men.

Your h is up there with the worst of them.

I'm a huge advocate of marriage and trying to make it work - I will say the absolutely opposite to you.

Get out now before he destroys you and your son's lives.

He's got drink and drugs, problems, he lies, he very probably cheats, he doesn't care about your feelings, he's taking no responsibility for your son, he spends family money on himself.

Feel awful for you Thanks

APlaceInTheWinter · 04/02/2015 17:29

He is in the wrong - completely and utterly. Now we are all agreed on that, you need to decide what you are going to do about it. Sweetheart, he is deliberately trying to confuse you so you don't know if you're coming or going. The longer you stay, the harder it will be for you to see through his lies and manipulations.
You must be incredibly strong to have lived with such a fuckwit and held down a career and looked after your family. Your life will only be better if he isn't in it. Imagine the energy you'll have to devote to positive things when he's not leaching all your energy in misguided concern for him.

Cantbebotheredtocutupfruit · 04/02/2015 18:00

He says it was the EA and the lack of sex life that drives him to act out but doesn't see that his behaviour is a massive part of that. I know I did wrong but I was on my own all the time, asking him to leave and he wouldn't. He was getting drunk and disappearing all the time. I know it isn't an excuse and I acted terribly but I was just desperate for someone to make me feel appreciated and special. The sex is a problem, I just think it is going to hurt so much that I freeze. I cant relax around him though as I am constantly angry or recovering from his last disappearance. I feel so so sad.

I am a highly qualified professional with a successful career - no one in RL would guess my personal life is such a mess. I would be so embarrassed to tell people in RL.

I think it is time for the chat. Thank you for your advice, I needed to know that I'm not unreasonable and this is not normal behaviour which is what he tells me every time.

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APlaceInTheWinter · 04/02/2015 18:22

It's not normal behaviour. You might benefit from the EA thread on here. It has lots of helpful reading and the regulars can hold your hand through the process of leaving and rediscovering yourself.

AHatAHatMyKingdomForAHat · 04/02/2015 18:26

Your DS already lives in a broken home. A very broken home.

A single parent home would be much less broken.

Joysmum · 04/02/2015 18:49

Staying in a broken home is far more damaging to children than leaving one. Once you've left, you're on the mend.

There's a whole generation of adults who come from divorced parents, I can't tell which of my friends have parents that are still together.

Get rid, do you honestly think modeling your relationship to your son as he grows up is in his best interests?

Guiltypleasures001 · 04/02/2015 18:49

Op to be honest the time for a chat Hmm is long gone, the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.

Take decisive action, pack his shit cut off the money and fuck him off, there never was a relationship for you to break up lovely.

Don't head fuck yourself any longer as Del Boy would say you know it makes sense. Thanks

goodthinking99 · 04/02/2015 18:59

I was in a similar, but not half as bad, situation to you 4 years ago. I left and now see clearly it was the best thing I could have done for ALL of us.

Splitting up was painful but the best move and I have absolutely no regrets. And we now have a happy co parenting life with very little drama.

Good luck.

AnyFucker · 04/02/2015 19:13

him

and your comment about "broken homes" pisses me right off

a child is better to be brought up in a home where there is trust, respect and women are valued for the role they play

atm you are enabling a cocklodging, unfaithful and abusive man and that is doing your son a lot more harm than cutting your losses, using your brain not your hormones and showing your son a better example of how to live a life

Moniker1 · 04/02/2015 19:19

Speak to a solicitor, See how things would be if you parted, find out the financial implications. Work out where you would live.

Once you know where you stand it will be easier to discuss the future with DH.

I agree that using the term broken home is wrong. You and DH might separate as it is the best for you both, your DS could have two happy homes and no broken ones. If you make it seem like a sad situation it is more likely to become one.

Quitelikely · 04/02/2015 19:27

This is no relationship. He is a terrible role model for your son. I understand you don't want to hand your son over to him but he loves the weekend too much to care so I bet it's only going to be a few hours max per week.

You are simply wasting your life here. He just hasn't grown up despite the fact he has a son. He doesn't respect you and basically does what he wants.

Staying out all night? More like staying out and staying awake all night thanks to taking coke. If he wasn't, he'd be shattered after a bellyful and be home the right side of 12.

Good luck

Cantbebotheredtocutupfruit · 04/02/2015 19:46

I didn't mean to upset anyone with the term broken home, I'm sorry if that caused offence. I know DS is already living in an unhappy home although I do everything I can to hide it. I never let him see me upset and we don't argue in front of him it but I know that he must be picking up on it.

What I meant is the only thing that is keeping me here is having to hand DS over. I have friends separating at the moment and it's been really upsetting for their DD but I know that it's inevitable because it can't carry on like this.

I don't want my DS to grow up thinking this is normal, it will just start the cycle again.

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JapaneseMargaret · 04/02/2015 19:51

I don't understand how you can wonder who is in the wrong.

Your DS already lives in a very broken home. Leave this waster, and at least he will be living in a calm, happy, peaceful home.

AnyFucker · 04/02/2015 20:06

Too many women stay in shit relationships because they fear "broken homes"

You would be better off alone and your son less damaged by absorbing the lessons you are both teaching him about what constitutes a grown up relationship

You won't be "hiding it" btw.. kids see, feel and hear everything

NerdyBird · 04/02/2015 20:19

If you're worried about handing DS over you may be able to arrange supervised contact at first, especially if you have concerns over drug taking. Worth looking into I think.

wannabestressfree · 04/02/2015 20:25

I agree with what everyone has said. Please leave and take your son or ask him to go. Start a new happier chapter of your life.

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