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Please help me - Im heartbroken and desperate for advice

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Pinkpearls · 03/02/2015 01:25

Well I’ve been lurking in this forum for a while, not sure whether or not I have a problem worth writing about and I guess today I finally built up the courage to post. Please bear with me – I’m writing this with tears streaming down my face.

I have been together with DP for over 7 years and for the most part I feel we have been happy together. It has not been an easy relationship at times and was put under some early strain due to an unexpected episode of ill health on my part. Thankfully fully recovered I have been back at work full-time for some years now.

We both have very demanding careers and whilst in general we understand each other’s pressures from work – it can sometimes take its toll on us. This has spiraled out of control recently, my DPs job is to finish and a new one is likely to mean a move of considerable distance from where we are now, assuming he finds and is successful at selection. This has understandably put a great deal of stress and pressure on him and whilst I totally understand this I love him so dearly I want us to talk about it and come up with a plan. – not something he seems willing to do much of. This will have a great impact on myself too and whilst I have said I will move, however difficult for my career, I would like to at least be involved in a discussion or at least aware of what he is thinking.

This brings me to the problem. He won’t talk to me, instead he tells me I don’t understand and I don’t get it. Our lack of communication and intimacy – is apparently all my fault – cos I make no effort – making effort only for it to be rejected on several occasions – doesn’t exactly make me feel very wanted. Nor does the suggestion of intimacy when I know he is only looking for stress relief.

In trying to explain this to him I’m then told that I am making out that it is all his fault and is always his fault and the argument escalates from there. He will then find something belittling or unkind to say – presumably to make himself feel better – then leave the room retreating back to his man cave, leaving me in floods of tears wondering how he can be this way if he cared at all about me.

This issue aside – I love him dearly – most of the time he is the nicest person, he just doesn’t seem to see anything from my side even when it is pointed out and even though I do my best to see things from his side. I can’t begin to envisage what life would be like without him. When things are good – they are really good. I am 33, would very much like to settle down, get married and have a family – but after 7 years he is still not ready for that either. I am completely torn – most of the time I have been happy but lately less so – is this all the stressful job situation? Am I being unreasonable? Will this calm down or am I just being kept hold of cos he doesn’t know what he wants and that’s the easiest option until he does? I do stand up for myself – but when I point anything out, all I hear is ‘so its my fault then, as usual’.

Nobody else seems to be around to see any of this and so there is no real objective view-point. I am aware the truth usually lies somewhere between two sides of the story. I have tries to be honest in this post and reflect on my part in it all, but any advice would be so greatly received – I’m breaking my heart right now and just desperately want to feel wanted and loved and less alone than I feel right now. Thank you for reading.

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Millli · 03/02/2015 01:50

Do you live together?

Pinkpearls · 03/02/2015 01:50

Yes. We live together and have done for best part of 6.5 years.

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Millli · 03/02/2015 01:53

Sorry your upset. Is he wanting to take this job, ( if offered) and be by himself. Sounds like he isn't planning on you moving with him.?

Millli · 03/02/2015 01:58

You seem to feel he is not committed to this relationship.

Pinkpearls · 03/02/2015 01:59

He is still looking at jobs - no jobs in his field close by - so only option is to look away. he has found a couple but he is hesitent - i think on a good day he cares and thinks of us - i think he is really stressed about the decision. I have said i will support 100% and move. Think he is stressed in general and I am in wrong place at wrong time and then get this torrent of name calling and belittling. I really want to help him and i dont want to lose what we have if this is just one of 'life's stresses' that has taken over a bit.

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Pinkpearls · 03/02/2015 02:00

Sometimes when he gets like this i feel the relationship is one sided. He is by nature someone who struggles with change.

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WhatsGoingOnEh · 03/02/2015 02:04

If he's not ready to settle down with you after 7 years, I'm afraid it sounds like he probably will never be.

HOWEVER. You could use this as a really good chance to discover how he really, honestly feels about you. Stop pushing him to talk - instead, start living your life as if he's not going to be in it for much longer. Make plans that are best for YOU. Don't move your job, don't push for commitment, stop asking what his plans are - just back WAY off. Keep busy, go out with your own friends, take up a new interest that gets you out of the house one or two evenings a week (the gym is perfect), stay happy but get busy.

Your distance will make him think, huh? Why isn't she so completely hung up on my every move any more? If he loves you, he'll work to get the closeness back. If he doesn't, he'll use this job opportunity as a chance to make a break. And you'll be free to find a more commited man.

Millli · 03/02/2015 02:05

Do you think that this job move I'd making him anxious because its causing him to be unsure of your future together?

Pinkpearls · 03/02/2015 02:10

Thank you for posting. You make a very good point. As hard as it is to accept that the outcome may not be what I want the only way to know for sure is to consider your suggestion. I guess i just need to work up the courage to try it out!

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Millli · 03/02/2015 02:10

I would have to agree with What's going on. As I said before it doesn't sound like he is sure there is a future for the two of you and he is feeling guilty and backed into a corner by you wanting to make plans for the two of you. If he was wanting to then he would be planning your future with you.

Millli · 03/02/2015 02:12

I have read this approach in The Rules Book. Will definitely help him to make up his mind if he feels you are pulling away from him.

Pinkpearls · 03/02/2015 02:13

Thank you. Might have to search out that book!

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rootypig · 03/02/2015 02:28

What????? OP please PLEASE do not look for a copy of The Rules. Dear Christ. It's an absolute disgrace on so many fronts - insulting to both men and women, NOT the route to an open and trusting partnership.

It sounds to me as though he is deeply stressed about the end of his job and doesn't want to confront the reality of finding a new one, and moving. You say he doesn't like change, by his nature. This is a huge change, and an uncertain one. It's hard to galvanise yourself for recruitment (and the inevitable rejections) when your confidence is at its lowest. Inevitable financial pressure on top of that. It's not an ideal backdrop against which to make life long plans.

All that said his behaviour is not ok. Stress does awful things to people, but he needs to take responsibility and go and get some professional support. Point out that he is being abusive, and ask him to go to counselling to help him through this period. If he won't, and the abuse doesn't stop, then you need to leave.

wotoodoo · 03/02/2015 03:07

When a relationship is as one sided as this it is extremely unhealthy and you know it.

A loving future husband and daddy does not emotionally abuse his partner like this leaving her in tears of anguish on a regular basis and you know it.

A loving partner puts their partner's needs before their own and strives to make them happy. You know this because this is how you are in this relationship. Unfortunately you also know he is not like this and will never be.

So is it love coupled with your ego and complete humiliation and despair that keeps you emotionally attached to this man? It is a toxic adhesive so no wonder you are finding it tough to come to terms with the real facts.

It's not the charming side you need to focus on, it's the dark side when life gets tough for a person's true colours to come through.

Stop pandering to him in such a clingy, needy way. Find your own backbone, do NOT give up your job and follow this man. Start detaching yourself from this toxic bond and get your self respect back and never allow yourself be so badly treated by a man again.

You have allowed yourself to be badly treated and because he has taken advantage of you he has no respect for you, your opinions or your welfare.

You know all this which is why you don't want it to be the end of the road for you borh but you know it is.

Good luck.

AcrossthePond55 · 03/02/2015 04:13

It sound to me as if perhaps he is trying to distance himself from you. Although I wouldn't do it as part of 'The Rules', I do agree that you may want to focus on you and what you want. Let him make his own decision about moving 100% on his own. Let him decide and then ask you if you want to come. Then make the decision that is best for YOU.

happywanderingwithdog · 03/02/2015 08:02

From my own experience with a non communicator who twists every argument I would also have to say start living your own life. Just imagine your life in 10 years time. what if you marry and have kids with him? Would he be able to deal with the stress and upheaval of parenthood or will it be you (and your career) bearing the brunt?

You don't have to suddenly start living like you're single, but try and arrange more time with friends, or as suggested above go to the gym a couple of times a week. Making time for yourself will give you the strength you need to make the right decission. You are responsible for your own happiness. Don't let him take it away from you.

WhatsGoingOnEh · 03/02/2015 08:02

The Rules is NOT insulting to anyone. It teaches women not to chase men, make excuses for them, uproot their lives or stay in unhappy relationships.

Anyone who says it's "insulting" hasn't read it, or doesn't understand it. Or just likes to jump on the bandwagon of hating it without really knowing why.

If you'd followed it, you wouldn't be in this situation! You wouldn't have moved in after 6 months with no commitment or plans for a future. And you wouldn't have stayed there for 7 years without any certainty.

Definitely read it and then make up your own mind about it.

Guiltypleasures001 · 03/02/2015 08:22

Hi pink

I feel quite concerned when you seem to straight away want or need to give everything I for this man. Move miles away support his every need, tie yourself in knots trying to communicate with him with little or no input from him.

I'm worried your going to be away from real life local support, isolated with an uncommunicative irritated stressed out man child who seems to be of little support to you, while you panda to him.

You might need to start redressing the balance and think about what you want rather than what he does, I don't he would appreciate it anyway. Personally? Ide leave him too it and make my own plans without him. Thanks

Sickoffrozen · 03/02/2015 08:24

Reads like your wasting your time to me and at 33 I would be having a serious think about your future. Only you can control that. Sometimes it's worth a few months of paid to get yourself moving in the right direction again. This relationship doesn't sound great to me as an outsider.

MorrisZapp · 03/02/2015 08:32

Why are you so keen to move with him? Is it to a place you want to live in? From what you've said, moving with this guy would be a huge mistake. And then you'd have to chuck good money after bad for years to justify your decision.

Take control here, look out for your own interests.

Nextwednesday · 03/02/2015 08:36

You've been together 7 years and you feel unloved. I think the relationship has run its course.

RL20 · 03/02/2015 09:14

It's hard to help someone who doesn't want to be helped deep down. He sounds similar to my partner. In your second post you defended him saying he's stressed etc. That might be the case but then why has that left you so upset? It's easier to forgive and forget and defend him and push your feelings aside rather than to really think about why you're hurting so much. I know that because I've been in a similar situation with the same person over and over again. Maybe you're don't feel strong enough or ready to leave yet, as I never have been. You love him, as I do my partner, and you get comfortable in a relationship and then it's hard to find a way out and so times even makes YOU feel guilty for wanting a way out. In my own experience yes it does get better... But then it goes back to square one again. You've got to decide what's best for you- something I haven't even got round to yet x

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