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What on Earth happened here?!

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Fernando2826 · 22/01/2015 20:41

First off, sorry for the length of this post but I feel it's important to explain everything underlying what I experienced. Essentially, I am utterly heartbroken - devastated by a relatively recent breakup and my first love. If you could, I would hugely appreciate you guys having a look at the story and letting me know what you think? Thanks all :)

My now ex-girlfriend, 20, and I, 24, had been seeing each other for 6 months. Things became very deep during this time, particularly in the last few months. We went on an amazing holiday, lived together for a few weeks and spent almost every night together.

We regularly told one another "I love you", she would refer to me as her “soulmate", tell me that she wanted to spend her life with me, wishfully discussed our future children and said, in all seriousness, that she would want to move to Australia with me after university. She even stated that she would be uncertain about an abortion, given that it would be my child. All of this was confirmed by a friend to whom she had said similiar things.

Now, I was already concerned about her suitability for a long-term relationship, given that she cheated on her ex-bf due to separation and didn't feel any guilt for it (although perhaps given her ex leaving for a 3 month holiday justifies it in some way). She also told a friend that despite her adoring me, she always self-sabotages and feared she might cheat for no reason at a festival. In addition to this, I was concerned by her love of male attention, even whilst in my company (perhaps attributable to insecurity over her weight – related to an eating disorder - and looks) She adored sex and admiration.

After 6 months together, we both departed for university, telling one another that we wanted things to work (again confirmed by a third party). She had, however, repeatedly said that she had never intended to go to uni with a bf, but couldn't deal with us breaking up, and was terrified of messing things up.

During our time apart, she spoke of her excitement over seeing me in the coming weeks and I received several very loving drunken phone calls saying that she needed me to be there to reassure her, that she missed me and loved me a great deal. But by around 3 weeks she had almost stopped making any effort to contact me.

I visited her days later, only for her to ignore me the entire time, to show no enthusiasm for my presence (almost annoyance), to text her new friends (and a guy, mentioned below) and to say that she didn't have the emotional or time capacity to make a relationship work alongside her demanding course (fair enough). She was, however, dispassionate this entire time.

After some probing, she admitted that she had been invited back to another guy's house and slept in his bed the night before, cuddling all night, but swore to me that nothing more intimate had happened and I think I believe her (given my understanding of her tone of voice etc). She was, however, flirtatiously texting this guy in front of me the entire time I was there, even as we ended things, and only showed any measure of interest when he responded.

We discussed how the long-distance scenario wasn't going to work and broke up amidst a great many tears. She also asked me to reassure her that we could reinstate things at a later date and after some settling in time (not unreasonable, although odd given her earlier behaviours). She said that she wished we had met after uni so that we could have a future together.

She seemed to be very loving and affectionate during the right moments i.e. watching a movie/in bed/after sex (particularly during the latter stages) but could also be disinterested and condescending. She could also be quite selfish - "forgetting her wallet", buying expensive items despite owing me money which I was in need of etc. She said that before she met me she found it very difficult to open up to people emotionally, even to her previous bf of 2 years, and had never discussed her previous issues surrounding eating disorders, her parents’ divorce and her issues with self-image.

She frequently said that she wished we had met after university, due to her propensity to engage in "self-sabotaging behaviours" – cheating, promiscuity in younger days, drug taking and clubbing - and was scared of ruining our relationship. She also frequently said that she was afraid that I was going to meet someone at university.

When we ended she was a mess, saying that she wished we had met after university so we could have had a future/still wanted a future etc, so she surely still cared? But at the same time, she said she rarely thought of me or her "old" life whilst at university, so perhaps the whole thing (OTT statements of love, future plans etc.) was just an infatuation that never developed into something deeper? Perhaps this is why she got over it so quickly? (In addition to many new distractions and this new guy).

We have spoken a few times in the months since during which she told me that she missed me and was hurt i had removed her from FB and asked for some time in non-contact (so that I could heal). I wish every day for a reconciliation (not sure if wise) but know that this is unlikely given her out of sight-out of mind stance. I also worry that removing her from FB, starting to see someone else (which she was upset about) and asking for some time apart has ruined any chance of a future (or perhaps that her guilt will prevent this)? I wonder how she looks back on the relationship. Finally I worry that, despite her saying that I had made her deliriously happy, she will be happier with this new guy, who I believe she is now seeing.

Thanks so much for reading this, any opinns or musings would be great :)

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Jackiemagazine · 24/01/2015 09:34

I'm really sorry you're hurting, and it will pass eventually. But starting uni is all about finding out who you are, and even though you may we'll be wonderful, this is a time for her to find herself.
You didn't do anything wrong. And she's 20. She doesn't have a personality disorder, etc etc, but her life has changed massively.
Deep breath, stay NC and go be happy. x

something2say · 24/01/2015 09:43

I think that you guys are just young. Relationships don't last when you are that young, especially when on person goes off to university.

Do the no contact thing, because that will make it easier.

What else have you got going on? Working, studying?

stuckinaswamp · 24/01/2015 09:55

GvBavavababa

Lammy7 · 24/01/2015 09:57

Fernando big hugs to you. The pain does pass so give it time. Above all else stop questioning and guessing what she meant by comments she made. This gets you nowhere, all you get is a fizzy head!
Let it go and go NC. Put it down to bad timing if it helps, but I think you had a lucky escape. Enjoy Uni and new friends and opportunities.
You sound like a very level headed young man and life will be great for you.

BIWI · 24/01/2015 10:04

Sorry Flowers

However, she's just too young and immature for a steady relationship and, to be fair to her, I think going off to university should be done 'free' - to experience university life and not to think about grown up things like settling down, moving to Australia, etc.

Yes, you've broken up, and you deserve someone who wants you and wants to be with you. Move on and don't hang around waiting for her.

But not sure why you would also want to go non-contact? Can't you remain friends? After all, you had a wonderful 6 months together. I think I would be a bit hurt if an ex boyfriend said he didn't want anything to do with me.

3teenageboys · 24/01/2015 10:08

Keep walking!!!! I can't add anything to the above advice but if you were my boy I would be hugely relieved. You sound like a intelligent & articulate young man about to start living your life FOR YOU! Go forth enjoy Uni & life & stay non contact, she is trying to manipulate you & is hedging her bets. I'll bet few months down the line when she hasn't met anyone she will be in touch. STAY AWAY , there are definitely personality problems.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Smudgeandpudge · 24/01/2015 10:15

I think the no-contact thing is sensible, as from what you say she seems the sort who would text/call you when SHE needs an emotional boost. That first heartbreak is so hard (believe me, 9 years later, I remember it well) but you will get over it. Give it time and throw yourself into your own uni life. Xx

Fernando2826 · 24/01/2015 10:22

Thanks again for your responses all. I agree that she is young, that it's fair enough to want to enjoy university free. However, she went off to uni genuinely wanting it to work, before the infatuation and illusions faded but then didn't have the decency to end it properly. I would understand the above reasons but to sleep with someone else/completely shut me down in terms of contact and affection in order to focus on him, even whilst I was there, was surely cold!? Surely she should have felt some guilt for this, which suggests she is a highly self-absorbed individual??

In terms of going no-contact, I don't feel I could heal without it. I don't want to have hurt her by requesting this and would love to still be in contact but after the above treatment? Why would I want to remain friends with a person like this?

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Lammy7 · 24/01/2015 10:38

Fernando, maybe her intentions were to go to Uni and the relationship "to work out" but her actions have shown otherwise! She treated you very badly when you went to visit her so now you need to look after yourself.....so if you want NC then do it! You owe her nothing at this stage.

Fernando2826 · 25/01/2015 22:44

What kind of an individual feels such infatuation but acts this way - saying that she genuinely feared she might cheat whilst away at a festival for a few days, saying that she always self-sabotages and messes up good things, saying that she was desperate to avoid becoming her cheating father but acting in this way nonetheless - it's almost as though she has no control. I understand low self-esteem (believe me!) but it doesn't remove volition!

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SmillasSenseOfSnow · 25/01/2015 22:47

People chat a load of pseudo-psychoanalysing, self-obsessed bullshit when they're 20, Fernando. You can realise that, discard it and move on now.

CrispyFern · 25/01/2015 22:50

You know what, plenty of 20 year olds do stupid things in relationships. That's it really.
You will love again!

dirtybadger · 25/01/2015 22:57

Sounds like a straight forward way of preparing you for her cheating? Or a way of trying to get you to split up with her so she didn't have to. "I told you I would" absolves her of some responsibility.

GallicIsCharlie · 26/01/2015 01:34

"I told you I would" absolves her of some responsibility.

As we say on here: When someone tells you who they really are, listen!

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