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Unable to make friends

20 replies

justalittlelemondrizzle · 18/01/2015 01:54

have a few "friends", all of them from college that I met over a decade ago. None of which I see much and apart from one of them that I have been really close to for the last couple of years seeing each other most days. I was her bridesmaid not so long ago. This had fizzled out recently as I get the feeling she's in the early stages of phasing me out so that's the end of that. She's had a really bad time recently and I've been there for her more than anyone. She obviously wasn't worth my time Angry I'm angry at myself for investing so much in the friendship as I knew all along that if the shoe was on the other foot she definately wouldn't have been there for me.

I'm just wondering, what the hell is wrong with me?!Â
I have made zero friendships in my whole adult life, I feel like I'm incapable of doing so!
Around new people I'm quiet, I seem to have nothing interesting to say, I'm pretty sure I come across a bit thick sometimes. Totally different to how I am when you get to know me.

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something2say · 18/01/2015 02:04

It happens to most of us.
I bet that friendship isn't phasing out either. They are long games, relationship, and they must be allowed to grow and change.
Start going to more things, by yourself, things you like doing. And then BE yourself x

Lovelydiscusfish · 18/01/2015 02:14

I think it's tough to make friends as an adult. We had a party at ours tonight, lots of new people - I mainly stuck with my own ( v tiny) close group of friends. Now i'd like to have more friends, I really would, but just don't seem to have it in me.b

JoanHickson · 18/01/2015 02:19

Your friend is a newlywed so give that some slack. You know you mean less to her than she does to you so don't put your eggs in one basket.

People loose friends to death,moving, growing apart all sorts. There will be people out there wanting a new friend.

AristotlesTrousers · 18/01/2015 07:02

Hi justalittle. There was a thread on here the other week called something like Reconnecting 2015, that a few of us contributed to.

We're all in the same position and have lost touch with old friends or just realised how few we have, and are looking for ways to make new friends, either online or in our area.

We also set up a facebook group so that we can all share tips on how to meet new people, moan about our lack of friends/social life and generally support each other with chit chat and sharing stuff. You're more than welcome to join us.

The fb group is called MN Social if you want to request to join. It's a closed group so what we share is all private except to group members. If you want to join and can't find it, feel free to pm me and I'll add you. Smile

justalittlelemondrizzle · 18/01/2015 23:51

Thanks for the replies. I think I have some social anxiety issues. I try to be confident but find it hard.
This isnt the first time a close friend has phased me out it happened about 6 years ago but I put it down to me having children and our lives going in different directions. I just dont get why this time. I think im a good friend but it leads me to believe im a shitty person but just cant see it myself. It makes me feel like I shouldnt let anyone get to close in future (other than dh of course) as they will end up doing the same.

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DeliciousMonster · 19/01/2015 07:26

The best friends are the ones who just pick up the phone and start where it left off, with no retributions. If someone is busy, then let them be busy.

Go out and make new friends, just don't get over invested in them or give too much to them if it makes you feel bad when they don't reciprocate.

TFA123 · 19/01/2015 07:41

Have you tried to talk to her about it?

In the past I have thought people were trying to phase me out when they weren't. Then I was on the other side of it, a friend thought I was trying to phase her out when actually I was having some health issues that I wanted to keep private. Rather than asking me about it, or giving me time to come back, she started bitching about me to another friend, saying how I was being odd and didn't want to be friends anymore (which actually did lead to the break down of the friendship). That experience made me really aware that my perspective and my own insecurities don't necessarily reflect what's going on with the other person. Now I'm always careful to give things time, check if the other person is ok, ask what's going on etc.

ITHOUGHTISAW2ANGELSAHEADOFME · 19/01/2015 07:53

Unfortunately i have the opposite affect. I make friends they get what they want then bugger off. I wonder what is wrong with me too :(

justalittlelemondrizzle · 19/01/2015 16:55

So I messaged her today. I basically just said "should I just stop bothering?" as ive sent a few messages over the last few weeks with no response. Anyway she replied immediately reassuring me. She said they need some me time and arent talking to anyone. She said id not done anything and "were cool". I'm still not convinced but maybe I am being irrational. She is dealing with some MH problems after all but Ive always been her go to person for it.

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pinkfrocks · 19/01/2015 17:37

Do you work? It sounds as if you aren't able to meet people or make the right noises when you do.

What's your social set up? Are you working, SAHM, or what?

Most of my friends have been 'collected' over the years from work, (maybe 1 good friend from each organisation over several decades), friends of friends, distant relatives ( ie half cousins), neighbours , parents of my kids, social groups and events, hobbies etc.

Where are you going that gives you the chance to meet people?

pinkfrocks · 19/01/2015 17:37

that should say 'parents of my kids' friends'!

cosmickitten · 19/01/2015 17:53

It is so so hard make friends as an adult. It's unlikely that's it's you more that it's just life.

Re phasing out it may not be that, friendships ebb and flow. On the other hand about 8 years ago my oldest and best friend phased me out. I was totally heart-broken. I'd moved around a lot and she made a new group of local friends. She was too busy to answer text messages let alone call / see me. It really hurt as I'd always made time for her. I asked if I'd done anything got told no. But I was still almost totally ignored for 2 years. It hurt like hell. I figured she no longer wanted such a close friendship.

However, I decided to leave a foot in the door communication wise (sent Xmas cards, birthday cards left the odd how are things voice mail every few months). I made my peace with the fact we were not close friends.

To this day I've no idea what happened. However, she slowly made a little effort here and there and today we friends again. In contact weekly and meet up every few months despite living over 200 miles apart. We will never be close like before but it's still a relationship I cherish. I also expect she'll go AWOL again several times over the years.

justalittlelemondrizzle · 19/01/2015 17:58

I work part time been there 10 years and although I get on with everyone it never goes past chatting the the break room.
My DD's are at primary school and while I know a fair few people and chat to them while walking to and from school sometimes / arranging playdates. Thats about it. I'm usually stood on my own. Sometimes panic as im walking to pick them up. Not sure why, it happened this afternoon actually.
I just dont have anything intresting to say. I'm so dull!

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pinkfrocks · 19/01/2015 18:01

well if you think you are dull, do something about it! Do you have hobbies? Do you read? Do you have opinions about current affairs ( there's an election coming up!)- all of these are things people talk about.

Sounds as if you wait for people to come to you, rather than making the first move.

Why not ask one of the school gate mums back for coffee or join some classes/ groups and meet people who have things in common?

justalittlelemondrizzle · 19/01/2015 18:09

I do wait for other people to make the first move. I'm not actually dull. I have ALOT of views Wink but my mind goes blank when in a social situation with people I dont know very well. I long for conversation but there is a barrier I cant shift.

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pinkfrocks · 19/01/2015 18:13

You need to learn and practise the art of small talk to get conversations going. There must be a book on it. Oh yes- How to win friends and Influence People!

chimichanga1976 · 19/01/2015 18:42

justalittle, I totally, 100% get what you mean. I've got only 2 very good friends I've known for 20yrs and some aquaintences. This wasn't really a problem for me until I moved overseas nearly 2yrs ago. I went through a phase of feeling really isolated and lonely.

It's due to being out of my comfort zone and I realised that I was just that out of practice with actually making friends. But, my God, it's a bloody hard slog and can feel like I'm always the one making the effort for very little in return! The amount of people I've swapped numbers with, in the expat community, and at best, got a few meet ups with them then it's fizzled out.

Even at the play group I sometimes attend, which is very busy in a huge hall, just the actual breaking the ice then maintaining any kind of conversation is quite a challenge. It fills you with self-doubt as you think you're coming across differently to others than you percieve yourself. I know all about good communication and non verbal cues, I do all the obvious things ( open body language, ask questions, listen, smile etc etc) but I'm not the most confident person and have always envied these outgoing, gregarious types that seem to act like a magnet and attract people with little effort. It's like people can read my aura or something, or my pheromones are off LOL!

I often think I must be a weirdo and it kind of dents your confidence and can put you on a downer. I've sort of resigned myself to being a natural loner but that's not to say I've given up making an effort in the hope of finding real friendships. It's just sometimes it's harder to make the effort than other times. Sometimes I just cannot be arsed with it all!

But walking around feeling like you're not part of society (i can't work as can't speak the language yet, which is a huge part of the prob for me! ) and as a result, feeling invisable is not much fun. I can go days without having a proper conversation with anybody, other than the obv pleasantries in shops, cafes etc, and not inc my husband of course! I do miss regular interaction with adults ( I'm a SAHM to a 3yr old ). It really can erode your confidence and self-belief if you aren't careful.

I think once my little girl goes to school I can concentrate on learning the language and getting a hobby. That could open more doors. But my career is well and truly dead and gone with moving here. Back home, that would at least give me some adult contact and friendships with colleagues.

I will def be visiting the FB page somebody recommended. I think lack of friends and difficulty making new ones isn't uncommon. It's just not many people "come out" and speak about it honestly.

justalittlelemondrizzle · 19/01/2015 23:01

Yes I don't remember how I used to make friends it used to come so easily.
Good for you for going to playgroups, I couldnt bring myself to do any of that.
No antenatal classes, baby & toddler or stay and play groups. I took them to the park, went to see family alot and they went to preschool as soon as they turned 3. I really wanted to go and I felt so guilty but just couldnt bring myself to do it.
It hasn't done them any harm they're happy and unlike me very sociable.
I am worried my anxiety is going to rub off on them. I don't want them to be like me.
I think joining a club might be a good idea i will look into that.

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ringinginthenewyearO · 20/01/2015 00:02

Op i totally get you and think with work and kids life does become a bit of a groundhog day. I have 4 close friends and we catch up and can talk about ANYTHING. But, I was always someone that watched at the sidelines and made a sarcasic or wisecrack. some people liked this some didn't. Then I went through a period where ifsomeone initiated conversation i found myself waffling away and mostly sounding like a moan.I could hear myself but couldn't stop. Especially if there were awkward silences i'd fill them.
I put this down to the mundane life, insecurities as we get older. self doubt and all that. Doing everything for everyone else and the only bit of 'news' i'd have was from the daily mail.
So after alot of heel dragging I joined an evening class. I work fulltime and dc and thought i'd never enjoy it, too much hassle. but you know what. I did and new people who didn't have any of my history liked me. I joked I sounded intelligent, i contributed and found myself liking this me. It also helped me by making small talk. I realised so many others in the class were in the same boat. I gained confidence and opened up. In business i could always do this but in social i found i had lost this confidence. But it took that effort of going into a new environment to reawaken me.
Try it. You might surprise yourself and enjoy it.

ringinginthenewyearO · 20/01/2015 00:16

oh and OP. stop worrying going to school yard. There are groups of mothers or people there that just won't tickle your fancy. You don't have to and not obliged to befriend them.
I don't get to collect from school unfortunately, but on the two occassions I did, i was given a whole run down on how to make strawberry jam and how they felt the teacher hadn't responded enough to their issues. which were ridiculous. I remember thinking this group has too much time on hands and I have no desire to listen let alone befriend. Does that make me bad? no life is too short.

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